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    Post  Austin Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:05 am

    TheArmenian wrote:I have already flown twice with Armavia's Sukhoi SSJ-100. Nice plane, it is now just a year old.

    Can you describe your experience in passenger comfort , noise in aircraft and what did you overall feel about SSJ ?
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:13 am

    The cabin layout was five abreast with good leg room for a tall person. Of course that has nothing to do with the airplane, it is what the airline chooses. The seats were the same as any economy class seats found on your usual Boeing or Airbus.The aisle spaciousness was similar as well, so were the overhead compartments sizes.

    Noise levels were at the same level as a Boeing 737 or Airbus A320 series. Flight times were almost 3 hours each. Take-off, cruise and landing were smooth. In fact I felt no difference between flying in this regional airliner and a regular Airbus A320 from the same airline, except that each row is 5 abreast instead of 6.

    Oh, I almost forgot, the stewardesses were average looking and the food was so-so Smile
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    Post  Austin Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:19 am

    Nice Thanks ..... May be the next time you pay more attention to the stewardesses Wink

    Have you flown on An-148 if yes then any comparison ?
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:53 pm

    No, I have not flown the AN-148.

    Armavia is the main airline of Armenia. Currently it operates one SSJ-100, a second one will be delivered this year. The other airplanes in its fleet are A-320/319 models, they also have one Boeing 737 and a couple of Bombadier small regional jets.

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    Post  Austin Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:09 pm

    What if you cant fly on a Superjet , you can always watch it fly from passenger seat Very Happy

    Aeroflot Sukhoi Superjet 100 landing in Sheremetyevo Int'l Airport

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q41ea9lSSs

    Sukhoi Superjet 100 take off from Moscow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MYto3mi_Ik


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    Post  Austin Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:11 pm

    Aeroflot to replace Superjets with customised versions

    Product support is hurdle to Tu-204SM deal: Lebedev
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    Post  Austin Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:39 pm

    Irkut MC-21 Promises Economy and Comfort - Piotr Butowski/Air International

    High Res Download --> http://www.4shared.com/rar/jzTGcn7-/MC-21.html
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:33 am

    A few weeks ago, I flew on the Brazilian EMBRAER E-170 regional jet and tried to make a comparison with Sukhoi's SSJ-100 from a passenger's point of view.

    Don't think that I am biased towards the Russian plane. In fact,I always liked the Embraer product but the verdict on this comparison was very easy to reach: The Sukhoi is a far more pleasant plane to be in as a passenger.

    -The Embraer has a narrower fuselage and seats 4 abreast while the SSJ seats five.
    -Overhead compartments are larger on the Sukhoi which also offers more headroom.
    -The SSJ's cabin is quieter.
    -The aisles and the seats were very similar.

    Overall, the SSJ sounded closer to a mainstream narrowbody like the Airbus A-320 or Boeing 737 than a regional jet like the Embraer.
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    Post  TR1 Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:25 am

    Thanks for info Armenian.

    What is the prospect on Armavia acquiring the second SSJ? Are the funding issues resolved?
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:58 am

    Funding issues? What funding issues?
    Don't believe in everything you read on the internet. Funding issues are just a cover up story for other issues that are not publicized.
    Latest info I have is that Armavia will get the second SSJ before the busy travel season starts this summer and will acquire further SSJs in the future.
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    Post  TR1 Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:17 am

    Well posters on Russian planes.net said the second Armavia airframe was in conservation because of issues with Armavia over funding.
    Is that incorrect? Is the airline doing ok?

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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:24 am

    Don't worry about Armavia. They have the money, they are just not very good at paying on time. Their latest "financial" issue was with the Yerevan (Zvartnots) airport where they are based.
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    Post  Austin Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:45 am

    Not so good news for An-148

    White Tails : An-148 Production moves forward though its order backlog is thin [Page 40]

    Some good news for Superjet

    Superjet : Super-Sized Strategy [Page 48]
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    Post  George1 Sat May 05, 2012 2:24 am

    "Antonov" Sate-run Enterprise and United Aircraft Building Company introduce the An-158 aircraft

    "Antonov" Sate-run Enterprise and United Aircraft Building Company introduce the An-158 aircraft


    April could be considered for a good reason as a month when an addition of the "Antonov" family came up - the An-158 passenger regional jet (RJ). For the first time it was unveiled in the public in a hangar being ready for a flight on April 21. It looked beautiful and powerful, it was shined under the flashes of hundreds of cameras and attracted the attention of high ranking officials from the Russian and Ukrainian aviation industry as well as reporters from two states. After several days An-158 conducted its first flight. In July the aircraft will make its debut in Farnborough-2010.



    National things
    The summit between the President of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev and Ukrainian counterpart V. Yanukovich took place on April 21. An important project on more close cooperation between "Antonov" Sate-run Enterprise and United Aircraft Building Company was discussed at the meeting. The two sides agreed that the decisions would be taken afterwards on August 1, 2010. Taking into the account the very close cooperation links between two aviation industries and harmony of interests the deeper integration is the logic and economically sound step.



    A New Antonov

    One of the results of the team-work between Russian and Ukrainian aviation specialists is the creation of an experimental model of the Antonov RJ.

    In April 2010 "Antonov" Sate-run Enterprise unveiled An-158. The aircraft outstrips its predecessor An- 148-100 in terms of seating capacity which was increased due to the enlargement of the fuselage by 1.7 meters and, according to the words of Chief Designer of the Enterprise D. Kiva, due to the re-layout of the cabin. In the end the number of seats was increased from 85 up to 99. The transit range is 2500-3100 kilometers. The luggage and cargo compartments as well as habitation modules became more commodious. The ability to take more passengers led to the cost effectiveness of the aircraft. The new "An" consumes 15% less fuel than its predecessor. The avionics were also upgraded. The new aircraft, as well as An-148, is able to fly under no-visibility conditions, - explains D. Kiva, - actually we got A-category certificate which gives us opportunity to take off and land in the automatic mode in case an airfield is properly equipped.

    Besides the modernity of the An-158 aircraft can be seen in the changed fuselage tail section and its geometry as well as in the wings terminal aerodynamic surface.
    At the same time the systems of the An-158, its airframe, cockpit, power plant as well as the manufacturing procedure, service and maintenance, service records, training for the crew are the same as for An-148. It is very suitable for an operator as now he has the line of RJs at his disposal which could be used in accordance with the number of passengers in a route.

    http://www.airfleet.ru/arhiv/n3-4_2010/addition_of_the_antonov_family/
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    Post  Austin Sun May 06, 2012 11:48 am

    Update on PD-14 from AW&ST

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    Post  Austin Tue May 22, 2012 9:58 am

    Did sabotage crash the Sukhoi Superjet?

    Concorde vs Konkordski

    On June 3, 1973, more than 200,000 spectators at the Paris Air Show were witness to one of the most awesome spectacles in aviation history – a supersonic faceoff between the French-British Concorde and the Russian built Tupolev-144, dubbed the Konkordski by the Western media.

    After the Concorde wowed the crowds, it was the Tu-144’s turn. In some respects it was a better aircraft than its rival, and its intriguing canards, a product of Russian ingenuity, made a striking impression on everyone.

    It was a battle for a supersonic supremacy and the Europeans, who hoped to corner the market for faster than sound travel, were now worried the Russians would get there first.

    Alexander Poukhov, one of the Tu-144 design engineers, explained the challenges faced, in a documentary produced by the Public Broadcasting Service of the US: “For the Soviet Union to allow the West to get ahead and leave it behind at that time was quite unthinkable. We not only had to prevent the West from getting ahead, but had to compete and leapfrog them, if necessary. This was the task Khruschev set us.”

    The Tupolev Bureau was up to the task. The Russians had come up with a design feature called canards, two little insect wings behind the cockpit. Extended, the canards improved low-speed flying by adding 20 percent more lift, allowing the jet to make softer, slower landings. During supersonic flight, they were retracted. The Russians claimed their plane was faster, cleaner and quieter.

    Predictably, there was panic in the West. “Are the Russians going to run away with the supersonic transport market?” was the question being asked in Washington.

    As the TU-144 taxied for takeoff, the Russian pilot, Koslov, was told by the French air traffic controllers that his display time had been cut in half.

    PBS comments: “The French intervened into a scientific, technical spectacle for political reasons. This was a major piece of French prestige and honour. I think they simply wanted to showcase their bird. They wanted to show it off to the world and to push the Russians in the background.”
    Even in the limited time he was given the Russian pilot performed brilliantly. French and British pilots who were watching were impressed by the sheer rate of the plane’s climb as well as its 360-degree turns.

    But then suddenly the TU-144 pitched violently, stalled at 4000 ft, and then began to dive. It then started to break up and caught fire before plunging into the crowd below. Six Russian crew members and eight French viewers died. One little boy playing in front of his home was decapitated by a piece of flying debris. Two other children were also killed. Sixty people were seriously injured and 15 houses totally destroyed.

    Both Russian and French authorities blamed pilot error for the crash. But in reality something really devious was to blame for the crash.

    Minutes before the Concorde and the TU-144 were scheduled to fly, a French Army Mirage jet took off. “It was a surprising departure, since at international air shows, competing pilots expect to have the skies to themselves,” says PBS. “Regulations state that a five-mile column of airspace must be kept free for their display. The Concorde was warned the Mirage would be flying, but Koslov’s crew was not informed.”

    There is speculation that the French neglected to admit this breach of regulations because the Mirage was on a clandestine mission to photograph the TU-144 in flight. In particular, the French wanted detailed pictures and films of the canards.

    To avoid colliding with the Mirage, Koslov was forced to pitch the plane violently downwards, thus setting in a chain of mechanical failures that culminated in a fiery crash.

    The crash ended whatever hopes Tupolev had of selling the supersonic TU-144 in Western markets. The Concorde didn’t have much luck either and failed to land a single buyer except for Britain and France, who to save face forced British Airways and Air France to buy the expensive aircraft.

    It was a classic case of industrial rivalry. British pilot John Farley told PBS: “Competition between the two airplanes was very well-founded. They were both hoping to go into service, both hoping to carry passengers in large numbers. The TU-144 was a larger airplane, carried more. And the world at that time didn't know which was going to be the better one.”
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 22, 2012 10:28 am

    When the American supersonic transport plane failed they introduced laws banning supersonic flight over land which effectively made the only use for the Concorde trans atlantic travel, where it could only operate supersonically over water.

    The main problem with the Tu-144 was its engines... ironically later engines developed for the Tu-160 Blackjack would have made the Tu-144 an excellent aircraft that could super cruise on dry thrust which greatly extended range performance and reduced noise.

    The superjet crashing is not a huge surprise new Airbus's have crashed during displays too.
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:49 am

    Aeroflot Halts Plans to Buy An-148 Planes

    Russian flagship carrier Aeroflot has no plans to buy any new An-148 airliners for its subsidiary GTK Rossia, company CEO Vitaly Savelyev said on Tuesday.

    They “do not measure up to cost-effectiveness” standards, he said in an interview with Ekho Moskvy Radio.

    GTK Rossia currently operates six An-148s, he said, adding that plans to buy another six have been put on hold.

    In September 2010, GTK Rossiya criticized the aircraft over its poor reliability, which it described as “below the previously declared level, and not enough to provide safe and regular flights."

    An An-148 crashed during a test-flight in March 2011, killing six on board. The investigation into the accident blamed a faulty airspeed indicator, which caused the pilots to dive the plane to pick up speed, resulting in an overspeed and subsequent structural failure.

    The An-148 is a short-range twin-turbofan powered airliner carrying from 68-85 passengers from 2,000-7,000 kilometers.

    http://en.rian.ru/business/20120821/175352627.html
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    Post  TR1 Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:35 am

    Interesting, since Aeroflot never bought An-148 Very Happy

    Journalists messed up Polet with Aeroflot, what careless morons.
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    Post  Austin Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:56 pm

    In the UAC decided to create a plane with 140 seats

    Capacity of the new aircraft, which plans to create UAC technology-based MS-21 and Sukhoi Superjet 100, the amount of 130-140 passengers. On this, as reported by "Interfax", said the head of the United Aircraft Corporation Mikhail Pogosyan.

    According to him, the new airliner could be on the market in 2016-2020. Pogosyan said that the project cost will be significantly lower than the SSJ-100, as will be used for the construction of the existing solutions. To develop an aircraft will be attracted foreign partners, the market demand for new aircraft Poghosyan estimated at 300-400 units.

    The fact that the MS-21 project (which produces "daughter" KLA "Irkut") and SuperJet (they produce another "daughter" of the KLA - "Sukhoi Civil Aircraft") are combined, Pogosyan said in August last year. At that time, the corporation has already started to create a single management for the development of new aircraft.

    Developers need to create an airliner to be designed using the technologies used in the MS-21 and SSJ-100. This will buy the components from the same suppliers, and thus reduce costs. Aircraft will vary with capacity and range, and the airline will be able to choose the most appropriate for their route networks airliners.

    Pogosyan said that in the end of the line aircraft KLA in the segment with 90-130 seats will be models of SSJ 100, SSJ 100 LR (Long Range) and SSJ 130 (NG). Capacity of the MS-21-200 and MS-21-300 will be 150-200 passengers, and in the segment 200-300 seats UAC introduces the "2020" design which has not yet begun.
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    Post  SOC Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:28 pm

    TR1 wrote:Journalists messed up Polet with Aeroflot, what careless morons.

    Did you see the post above where they were calling the Tu-144 Sukhoi's Superjet? angry

    Speaking of which, there were plans to take one of the Tu-144Ds at Zhukovskiy and place it somewhere nearby as a monument, did anything come of that yet?
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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:14 pm

    Sukhoi superjet conspiracy... quite amusing but well should be taken carefully.

    Well the Mt Salak where the superjet crashed is quite notorius for flight... it's already took victim of some of our best aviators.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:21 am

    TR1 wrote:Interesting, since Aeroflot never bought An-148 Very Happy

    Journalists messed up Polet with Aeroflot, what careless morons.

    It is not Polet.
    It is indeed Aeroflot. The planes were for Rossiya Airline (which is owned/managed by Aeroflot).
    Polet will never go against the Antonov Aircraft. Because Polet is based in the city of Voronezh where the AN-148 is manufactured and serviced (VASO plant).

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/8/24/1167/
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    Post  Austin Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:27 pm

    About aerodynamics: an interview with the creators of the Superjet

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/19600/
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:33 am

    Has the superjet crash in indonesia massively affected the russian civil aviation industry's reputation and will sukhoi stop having new customers after this fiasco? pale

    (in reality the crash was the cause of the dumbass crew that happened to be flying and had nothing to do with the quality of the aircraft itsself but westerners are too ignorant to realize this Rolling Eyes after all they would get a new competitor in the civil aircraft buseness which they obviously dont want so it would be in their interest to ridicule the superjet to be a shitty aircraft because it crashed)

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