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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:56 am

    Well to be fair the US has been flying planes around with what appear to be hypersonic missiles... the difference is that the US admit they are untested and are at the start of trials and testing.

    The Chinese have not said anything about their missiles either.

    The Russians have Kinzhal, a modified ground launched hypersonic manouvering missile but it has been in service for decades so modifying it for air launch from MiG-31K missiles explains how they got that into service so quickly...

    I would suggest it might be a case of the Chinese doing the same to get a missile into service quickly too. And why wouldn't they?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:31 am

    I wonder what sort of weapons will their new strategic bomber likely to carry, & do they have some of them already?

    The H-6N with BM:
    https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2020-11-26/2_1119_armament.html?print=Y


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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:49 pm

    In the news report of the Chinese television channel CCTV7 about the service of the pilots of the 6th Aviation Brigade of the PLA Air Force, the complex KTS-35 simulator developed and manufactured by PJSC Sukhoi Company was demonstrated for the first time. The complex simulator has a spherical visualization with viewing angles of 270 degrees horizontally and 110 degrees vertically (the pilot of a real fighter sees exactly the same thing). It can be used to practice all modes of air combat and group aerobatics. I will publish the full video soon.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:07 pm

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    Post  immortal_sharpener on Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:49 am

    George1 wrote:PLA Air Force General News Thread: - Page 10 Chn10
    Thats SU30, Su30, Su30 with a paintjob, su30 with a blue paintjob, and su30 with 50 shades of grey.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:57 pm

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3111322/chinese-military-testing-home-made-engines-y-20-transport

    66Ts payload is 6Ts over the IL-476 & only 11Ts less than C-17 77Ts payload.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:29 am

    66 tons would be 4 tons over the Il-476s payload capacity, but so what?

    Payload capacity doesn't mean very much at all...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:48 pm

    In the hot/high environment of C/SE Asia, Africa, Tibet & SC Sea it's better to have more powerful engines. Later they may build 6 engine An-225-like planes too, but smaller.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:00 pm

    But what's the quality of those chinese aircraft ? That's the question.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:58 pm

    What is the definition of "quality" when used to evaluate a cargo transport? Apparently the PRC mil. leaders r satisfied with Y-20s so far; export customers can /would chose more expensive planes if they want/can afford to pay for better quality as they understand the term- "u get what u pay for".
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    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:12 pm

    Their availability rates... a wonderfull aiplane that doesn't fly is just a stockage building.

    Don't expect chinese military to say the truth.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:00 pm

    Their availability rates...
    All the Y-20s r still new & it'll be years before their maintenance issues pile up, if ever- with right schedules & practices they won't run into the ground before their time. Even if/when it's low, I'm sure they'll have extra planes built & on stand by for that & attrition.
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37939/chinas-y-20-transport-appears-to-be-finally-flying-with-indigenous-jet-engines


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:25 am

    The J-16D Electronic Warfare Aircraft Is China's Latest Step Towards Pacific Supremacy
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:38 am

    After the Y-8 landing there, it was going to happen: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3116028/south-china-sea-why-did-pla-land-its-massive-y-20-warplane

    https://topwar.ru/178747-kitajskij-voenno-transportnyj-samolet-y-20-vpervye-prizemlilsja-na-spornom-arhipelage-spratli.html


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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:57 pm

    Satellite images of the flight test station of the Chinese aircraft factory Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation from December 20, 2020. The newest AWACS KJ-500 aircraft, second generation air force electronic reconnaissance aircraft Y9G and military transport aircraft Y9. Chinese aircraft assembly line at work.

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    Post  walle83 on Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:25 pm

    George1 wrote:Satellite images of the flight test station of the Chinese aircraft factory Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation from December 20, 2020. The newest AWACS KJ-500 aircraft, second generation air force electronic reconnaissance aircraft Y9G and military transport aircraft Y9. Chinese aircraft assembly line at work.

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    Seing atleast 15 AWACS. They will soon reach same numbers of aircrafts as the Russian airforce with this pase. If they havnt already passed it.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:13 am

    That is possible, but the Soviets and Russians only ever used AWACS aircraft as gap fillers... their ground base radar network is enormous and rather comprehensive.

    This is good news because China would benefit from having good awareness of its airspace, and they are useful platforms for controlling groups of interceptors too.

    They provide better communication and situational awareness in that local area... something India would have benefited from the last time they tangled with Pakistan.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:24 am

    They provide better communication and situational awareness in that local area...
    including in the E/S China Seas, the W. Pacific & in/around the SE Asia.
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    Post  walle83 on Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:09 pm

    Found this history of the PLA air force.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Yesterday at 7:16 pm

    Keeping up the pressure & honing their skills: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-exercise-biden.html

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