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    Post  GarryB 08/11/20, 07:56 am

    Well to be fair the US has been flying planes around with what appear to be hypersonic missiles... the difference is that the US admit they are untested and are at the start of trials and testing.

    The Chinese have not said anything about their missiles either.

    The Russians have Kinzhal, a modified ground launched hypersonic manouvering missile but it has been in service for decades so modifying it for air launch from MiG-31K missiles explains how they got that into service so quickly...

    I would suggest it might be a case of the Chinese doing the same to get a missile into service quickly too. And why wouldn't they?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 08/11/20, 08:31 am

    I wonder what sort of weapons will their new strategic bomber likely to carry, & do they have some of them already?

    The H-6N with BM:
    https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2020-11-26/2_1119_armament.html?print=Y


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    Post  George1 28/11/20, 12:49 am

    In the news report of the Chinese television channel CCTV7 about the service of the pilots of the 6th Aviation Brigade of the PLA Air Force, the complex KTS-35 simulator developed and manufactured by PJSC Sukhoi Company was demonstrated for the first time. The complex simulator has a spherical visualization with viewing angles of 270 degrees horizontally and 110 degrees vertically (the pilot of a real fighter sees exactly the same thing). It can be used to practice all modes of air combat and group aerobatics. I will publish the full video soon.

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    Post  George1 28/11/20, 01:07 am

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    Post  immortal_sharpener 28/11/20, 12:49 pm

    George1 wrote:PLA Air Force General News Thread: - Page 10 Chn10
    Thats SU30, Su30, Su30 with a paintjob, su30 with a blue paintjob, and su30 with 50 shades of grey.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion 29/11/20, 01:57 am

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3111322/chinese-military-testing-home-made-engines-y-20-transport

    66Ts payload is 6Ts over the IL-476 & only 11Ts less than C-17 77Ts payload.
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    Post  GarryB 29/11/20, 01:29 pm

    66 tons would be 4 tons over the Il-476s payload capacity, but so what?

    Payload capacity doesn't mean very much at all...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 29/11/20, 09:48 pm

    In the hot/high environment of C/SE Asia, Africa, Tibet & SC Sea it's better to have more powerful engines. Later they may build 6 engine An-225-like planes too, but smaller.
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    Post  Isos 29/11/20, 11:00 pm

    But what's the quality of those chinese aircraft ? That's the question.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 30/11/20, 12:58 am

    What is the definition of "quality" when used to evaluate a cargo transport? Apparently the PRC mil. leaders r satisfied with Y-20s so far; export customers can /would chose more expensive planes if they want/can afford to pay for better quality as they understand the term- "u get what u pay for".
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    Post  Isos 30/11/20, 01:12 am

    Their availability rates... a wonderfull aiplane that doesn't fly is just a stockage building.

    Don't expect chinese military to say the truth.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 30/11/20, 02:00 am

    Their availability rates...
    All the Y-20s r still new & it'll be years before their maintenance issues pile up, if ever- with right schedules & practices they won't run into the ground before their time. Even if/when it's low, I'm sure they'll have extra planes built & on stand by for that & attrition.
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37939/chinas-y-20-transport-appears-to-be-finally-flying-with-indigenous-jet-engines


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    Post  Tsavo Lion 08/12/20, 07:25 am

    The J-16D Electronic Warfare Aircraft Is China's Latest Step Towards Pacific Supremacy
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 10/01/21, 08:38 am

    After the Y-8 landing there, it was going to happen: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3116028/south-china-sea-why-did-pla-land-its-massive-y-20-warplane

    https://topwar.ru/178747-kitajskij-voenno-transportnyj-samolet-y-20-vpervye-prizemlilsja-na-spornom-arhipelage-spratli.html


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    Post  George1 21/01/21, 05:57 pm

    Satellite images of the flight test station of the Chinese aircraft factory Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation from December 20, 2020. The newest AWACS KJ-500 aircraft, second generation air force electronic reconnaissance aircraft Y9G and military transport aircraft Y9. Chinese aircraft assembly line at work.

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    Post  walle83 21/01/21, 08:25 pm

    George1 wrote:Satellite images of the flight test station of the Chinese aircraft factory Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation from December 20, 2020. The newest AWACS KJ-500 aircraft, second generation air force electronic reconnaissance aircraft Y9G and military transport aircraft Y9. Chinese aircraft assembly line at work.

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    Seing atleast 15 AWACS. They will soon reach same numbers of aircrafts as the Russian airforce with this pase. If they havnt already passed it.

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    Post  GarryB 22/01/21, 07:13 am

    That is possible, but the Soviets and Russians only ever used AWACS aircraft as gap fillers... their ground base radar network is enormous and rather comprehensive.

    This is good news because China would benefit from having good awareness of its airspace, and they are useful platforms for controlling groups of interceptors too.

    They provide better communication and situational awareness in that local area... something India would have benefited from the last time they tangled with Pakistan.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 22/01/21, 08:24 am

    They provide better communication and situational awareness in that local area...
    including in the E/S China Seas, the W. Pacific & in/around the SE Asia.
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    Post  walle83 22/01/21, 08:09 pm

    Found this history of the PLA air force.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion 24/01/21, 11:16 pm

    Keeping up the pressure & honing their skills: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-exercise-biden.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 30/01/21, 07:42 am

    J-17 may come out soon: https://news.creaders.net/china/2015/10/31/1601846.html

    They can also be used as long range interceptors/interdictors, & no need for any Tu-22Ms.
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    Post  walle83 30/01/21, 01:50 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:J-17 may come out soon: https://news.creaders.net/china/2015/10/31/1601846.html

    They can also be used as long range interceptors/interdictors, & no need for any Tu-22Ms.

    The article is from 2015.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 31/01/21, 02:23 am

    That doesn't mean they never started or stopped working on it.
    They don't need to navalize it- just draw a 5K km circle from AFBs in NE China, Yunnan, in Tibet, Sinkiang, on the E. C. Sea coast, & their "unsinkable CVs" in the SC Sea, to see how far their ALCMs will be able to strike.
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    Post  walle83 09/02/21, 01:09 am

    Heavy drone WJ-700 made its maiden flight in January.

    Focusing on both domestic and international market needs in the next 5 to 10 years, the WJ-700is characterized by high altitude, high speed and high payload capability. It can perform a wide range of tasks on risky battlefields,including air-to-ground standoff strikes, air-to-surface precision strikes, as well as wide-area surveillance.

    http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2021-01/13/content_9967223.htm

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    Post  George1 16/03/21, 09:56 pm

    PLA Air Force begins to decommission the J-7 fighter

    https://en.topwar.ru/180903-vnes-bolshoj-vklad-v-zaschitu-kitaja-vvs-noak-nachinajut-spisanie-istrebitelja-j-7.html

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