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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  Hole on Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:26 pm

    Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:00 pm

    Rob Lee
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    According to Vedomosti, the MoD may sign a new contract in 2019 or 2020 for an estimated 48 Su-34 as part of GPV-2027. This wouldn't be sufficient to load NAZ's production line though, so there is a debate about whether to transfer production to KnAAZ. 4/

    https://m.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/10/07/813072-proizvodstvo-boevih-samoletov
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    Post  Hole on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:03 pm

    You´re late. Look a page back, this is already discussed. Cool Very Happy
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:09 pm

    Hole wrote:Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
    UUAPO, Ulan-Ude (Mi-8 versions)
    VASO, Voronezh (Il-112)

    So which plants does this moron propose to close since he says half of them? All those plants are in use for production.
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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:44 pm

    Hole wrote:You´re late. Look a page back, this is already discussed. Cool Very Happy

    Very Happy sorry then.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:28 pm

    According to the rumour mill on the Ru net, they're expecting the following orders in 2019/2020

    48 x Su-34's
    60+ Su-30SM's
    more Su-35's (unknown quantity)
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:35 pm

    That would make sense. Su-30SM's are a very important jet for Russia. Especially if the Su-30SM updates include the Irbis-E radar, then it would be by far the best air superiority dual purpose plane in use. May limit the further orders of Su-35 as it may be only sufficient for airspace protection.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:20 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Hole wrote:Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
    UUAPO, Ulan-Ude (Mi-8 versions)
    VASO, Voronezh (Il-112)

    So which plants does this moron propose to close since he says half of them?  All those plants are in use for production.

    The clown calling for the closure of half the plants should be shot for high treason. He is a bald faced liar serving the interests
    of Russia's enemies. His BS calls and claims are pure propaganda theater. Russia needs to to re-open more of its closed military
    factories and not close any currently running. When you hear some clown invoke "economics" to call for plant closures then you
    instantly know he/it is a snake oil peddler. None of these "industry insiders" and assorted shills have the slightest clue about
    macro economics and their bean counting amounts to nothing other than extortion attempts. I am sure this clown and his/its
    ilk would love to move the plants to 3rd world sweatshops, you know, for "economic" reasons.

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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:24 pm

    BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders. I would not put any value in these numbers. It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force. I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential. But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success. While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well. This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:37 pm

    kvs wrote:BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders.   I would not put any value in these numbers.  It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force.    I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential.   But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success.   While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well.    This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).    

    Don't tell franco that, he puts his entire life-savings into these reports. Wink
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    Post  dino00 on Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:06 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry and Sukhoi to sign a new Su-34 contract by the end of the year - source

    Moscow. November 2. INTERFAX - The Russian Defense Ministry intends to conclude a new contract for the supply of Su-34 bombers by the end of the year, an informed source told Interfax.
    "Discussion of the contract for the next batch of Su-34 is already in the final stage. It should be signed before the end of the year," the agency’s source said.
    According to him, the Su-34 bombers will be delivered in the basic configuration, and not in a modernized appearance.
    The source said that Novosibirsk Aircraft Plant will continue to produce aircraft, there is no question of transferring the production of Su-34 to Komsomolsk-on-Amur. "This would require large financial costs, and a serious interruption in mass production, at least six months, so this option is unacceptable."
    Currently, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant (NAZ, a Sukhoi branch, part of the UAC) produces the Su-34 as standard. Every year, the Russian Aerospace Forces receive 16-18 front-line bombers. In 2019, the military transferred 6 of these aircraft. It was planned that this year the manufacturer will complete the supply of Su-34 under the current contract, which the plant is fulfilling ahead of schedule.
    Earlier, the media reported on plans to transfer the production of Su-34 from Novosibirsk to the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KnAAZ), which now produces Su-35 and Su-57 fighters. However, later the KLA and local authorities announced that there was no final decision to postpone the production of the Su-34.

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=520967&lang=RU
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    Post  franco on Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:44 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders.   I would not put any value in these numbers.  It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force.    I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential.   But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success.   While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well.    This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).    

    Don't tell franco that, he puts his entire life-savings into these reports. Wink

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