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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  MC-21 on Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:53 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:
    George1 wrote:we talk about the 92 of the second order. Bmpd says with the last delivered we reach the 62 cars from that order. So 32 of the first order + 62 = 94

    The five you say are before the first order of 32

    Εven wiki confirm us. It says 106 units incl. 7 prototypes (so 99 without them)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34


    yes, are 7 prototypes (only two remain in use) and 99 serial airplanes 5+32+62
    30 airplanes are pending of the third contract , 8 this year.
    The order of 32 is the SECOND order of serial aircrafts , was signed in 2008 , when the 4 first airplanes have been made , and the first airplane of that second order of 32 , serial 02-04 was deployed in 2010
    There are pictures of all of these aircrafts , except the most recent airplanes
    About the Wikipedia, is written by people like you and me and the english versión is not the better for non english speaking countries, sometimes is mistaken and sometimes no
    The only way is know the serial numbers and have the pictures of all of the these aircrafts
    In the list above you can find information of every airplane until 2011 and the picture in the tail number.

    This is the complete list:

    Production:
    2 in 2006: 1 Akhtubinsk , 1 Lipetsk
    1 in 2007: Akhtunisnk
    1 in 2008: Lipetstk
    1 in 2009: Lipetsk
    4 in 2010: Voronezh
    6 in 2011: Voronezh
    10 in 2012: Vorónezh
    14 in 2013: 4 Vorónezh , 1 Akhtubinsk , 9 Morozovsk
    18 in 2014: 17 Morozovsk , 1 Akhtubinsk
    18 in 2015: 10 Morozovsk , 8 Lipetsk
    16 in 2016: Khurba
    16 in 2017: 8 Khurba , 8 ??

    Total:
    100 now (including 99 of series and 1 prototype)
    108 at the end of 2017
    Then 22 are pending for 2018 and the begining of 2019

    By airbase:
    Vorónezh VAIU: 2
    Akhtubinsk: 4
    Lipetsk: 9
    Vorónezh: 24
    Morozovsk: 36
    Khurba: 24
    Repairs at Novosibirsk factory: 1
    Total 99

    Prototypes:
    #P1   00-01   1990    Nº42   Retired
    #P2   00-02   1993    Nº43   Retired 
    #P3   00-03   1994    Nº44   Retired
    #P4   01-01   1996    Nº45   Retired
    #P5   01-02   1997    Nº46   Vorónezh-University of Aeronautical Engineering > Nº46 RF-94487
    #P6   01-04   2000    Nº47   Zhukovsky
    #P7   01-05   2003    Nº48   Zhukovsky
    #P8   01-06   2006    Nº 49   Transformed in first serial airplane >> Nº 01 Akhtubinsk
    (01-03 was a static airframe)

    Serial airplanes VVS

    Nº#  Serial   1º Fl.   Register    Number   Destination
    01#   01-06   2006   XXxxxxxx   Nº01   4 TsBP > 929 GLITs   CONTRACT 2006 (5)
    02#   01-07   2006   RF-92251   Nº02   4 TsBP   
    03#   02-01   2007   RF-93619   Nº03   4 TsBP > 929 GLITs   
    04#   02-02   2008   RF-92252   Nº04   4 TsBP   >> Vorónezh VAIU
    05#   02-03   2009   RF-92253   Nº05   4 TsBP   
    06#   02-04   2010   RF-95070   Nº06   4 TsBP   >>  47 BAP    CONTRACT 2008 (32)
    07#   02-05   2010   RF-95804   Nº07   4 TsBP   >>  47 BAP   
    08#   02-06   2010   XXxxxxxx   Nº08   4 TsBP   >>  47 BAP   
    09#   02-07   2010   XXxxxxxx   Nº09   4 TsBP   >>  47 BAP   
    10#   02-08   2011   XXxxxxxx   Nº01   47 BAP   
    11#   02-09   2011   RF-95802   Nº02   47 BAP   
    12#   02-10   2011   RF-95803   Nº03   47 BAP   
    13#   02-11   2011   RF-95801   Nº04   47 BAP   
    14#   02-12   2011   RF-95806   Nº05   47 BAP   
    15#   02-13   2011   RF-95812   Nº10   47 BAP
    16#   03-01   2012   XXxxxxxx   Nº11   47 BAP   
    17#   03-02   2012   XXxxxxxx   Nº12   47 BAP   
    18#   03-03   2012   XXxxxxxx   Nº20   47 BAP   
    19#   03-04   2012   RF-95002   Nº21   47 BAP   
    20#   03-05   2012   RF-95005   Nº22   47 BAP   
    21#   03-06   2012   RF-95810   Nº23   47 BAP
    22#   03-07   2012   RF-95808   Nº24   47 BAP
    23#   03-08   2012   RF-95811   Nº25   47 BAP   
    24#   03-09   2012   RF-95807   Nº26   47 BAP   
    25#   03-10   2012   RF-95809   Nº27   47 BAP   
    26#   04-01   2013   RF-93801   Nº34   929 GLITs   
    27#   04-02   2013   RF-95067   Nº28   47 BAP   Breakdown 4-jun-2015 >> repairs at NAPO
    28#   04-03   2013   RF-95065   Nº29   47 BAP   
    29#   04-04   2013   RF-95066   Nº30   47 BAP   
    30#   04-05   2013   RF-96472   Nº31   47 BAP
    31#   04-06   2013   RF-93831   Nº01   559 BAP   
    32#   04-07   2013   RF-93832   Nº02   559 BAP
    33#   04-08   2013   RF-93830   Nº03   559 BAP   
    34#   04-09   2013   XXxxxxxx   Nº04   559 BAP   
    35#   04-10   2013   XXxxxxxx   Nº05   559 BAP   
    36#   05-01   2013   RF-93835   Nº06   559 BAP   
    37#   05-02   2013   RF-93837   Nº07   559 BAP   
    38#   05-03   2013   RF-93833   Nº08   559 BAP   CONTRACT 2012 (92)
    39#   05-04   2013   RF-93838   Nº09   559 BAP   
    40#   05-05   2014   RF-93826   Nº10   559 BAP   
    41#   05-06   2014   XXxxxxxx   Nº11   559 BAP   
    42#   05-07   2014   RF-93828   Nº12   559 BAP   
    43#   05-08   2014   RF-93855   Nº14   559 BAP   
    44#   05-09   2014   RF-93829   Nº15   559 BAP   
    45#   05-10   2014   XXxxxxxx   Nº16   559 BAP   
    46#   05-11   2014   RF-93814   Nº17   559 BAP   
    47#   05-12   2014   RF-93813   Nº18   559 BAP   
    48#   05-13   2014   RF-93821   Nº19   559 BAP   
    49#   05-14   2014   XXxxxxxx   Nº20   559 BAP   
    50#   05-15   2014   RF-93819   Nº21   559 BAP   
    51#   05-16   2014   RF-93818   Nº22   559 BAP   
    52#   05-17   2014   RF-93817   Nº24   559 BAP   
    53#   05-18   2014   RF-93816   Nº25   559 BAP   
    54#   05-19   2014   XXxxxxxx   Nº27   559 BAP   
    55#   05-20   2014   XXxxxxxx   Nº35   929 GLITs   
    56#   06-01   2014   RF-93822   Nº28   559 BAP   
    57#   06-02   2014   RF-93823   Nº31   559 BAP   
    58#   06-03   2015   RF-95012   Nº34   559 BAP
    59#   06-04   2015   XXxxxxxx   Nº35   559 BAP   
    60#   06-05   2015   RF-95011   Nº36   559 BAP   
    61#   06-06   2015   XXxxxxxx   Nº 37   559 BAP   
    62#   06-07   2015   RF-95478   Nº38   559 BAP
    63#   06-08   2015   RF-95479   Nº39   559 BAP   
    64#   06-09   2015   RF-95856   Nº40   559 BAP
    65#   06-10   2015   RF-95855   Nº41   559 BAP   
    66#   06-11   2015   RF-95857   Nº42   559 BAP   
    67#   06-12   2015   RF-95841   Nº10   4 TsBP   
    68#   06-13   2015   RF-95844   Nº11   4 TsBP    >> Nº32  47 BAP
    69#   06-14   2015   RF-95858   Nº43   559 BAP   
    70#   06-15   2015   RF-95843   Nº12   4 TsBP   
    71#   06-16   2015   RF-95842   Nº14   4 TsBP   
    72#   07-01   2015   RF-95848   Nº15   4 TsBP
    73#   07-02   2015   RF-95846   Nº16   4 TsBP   
    74#   07-03   2015   RF-95845   Nº17   4 TsBP   
    75#   07-04   2015   RF-95847   Nº18   4 TsBP   
    76#   07-05   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº01   277 BAP   
    77#   07-06   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº02   277 BAP
    78#   07-07   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº03   277 BAP   
    79#   07-08   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº04   277 BAP
    80#   07-09   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº05   277 BAP   
    81#   07-10   2016   RF-81714   Nº06   277 BAP            
    82#   07-11   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº07   277 BAP         
    83#   07-12   2016   RF-81715   Nº09   277 BAP         
    84#   07-13   2016   RF-85712   Nº10   277 BAP         
    85#   07-14   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº11   277 BAP   
    86#   08-01   2016   RF-81727   Nº12   277 BAP   
    87#   08-02   2016   RF-81725   Nº14   277 BAP   
    88#   08-03   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº 20   277 BAP         
    89#   08-04   2016   XXxxxxxx   Nº 21   277 BAP         
    90#   08-05   2016   RF-81728   Nº22   277 BAP         
    91#   08-06   2016   RF-81723   Nº23   277 BAP         
    92#   08-07   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº24   277 BAP         
    93#   08-08   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº25   277 BAP         
    94#   08-09   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº27   277 BAP         
    95#   08-10   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº29   277 BAP         
    96#   08-11   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº30   277 BAP       
    97#   08-12   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº31   277 BAP   
    98#   08-13   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº32   277 BAP             
    99#   08-14   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº33   277 BAP          
    100#   08-15   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    101#   08-16   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    102#   09-01   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    103#   09-02   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    104#   09-03   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP        
    105#   09-04   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP        
    106#   09-05   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    107#   09-06   2017   XXxxxxxx   Nº???   ?? BAP         
    108#   09-07   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    109#   09-08   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    110#   09-09   2018   XXxxxxxx      
    111#   09-10   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    112#   09-11   2018   XXxxxxxx      
    113#   09-12   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    114#   09-13   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    115#   09-14   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    116#   09-15   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    117#   09-16   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    118#   10-01   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    119#   10-02   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    120#   10-03   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    121#   10-04   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    122#   10-05   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    123#   10-06   2018   XXxxxxxx         
    124#   10-07   2019   XXxxxxxx         
    125#   10-08   2019   XXxxxxxx         
    126#   10-09   2019   XXxxxxxx         
    127#   10-10   2019   XXxxxxxx         
    128#   10-11   2019   XXxxxxxx         
    129#   10-12   2019   XXxxxxxx
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:46 pm

    Nº36 at Khurba
    This could means a third squadron will be formed in 277 BAP?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjQXLOUQ5xU&feature=youtu.be


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:02 pm

    Russian bombers to be armed with new Kh-50 theatre-level cruise missile
    Piotr Butowski - IHS Jane's Missiles & Rockets

    http://www.janes.com/article/76602/russian-bombers-to-be-armed-with-new-kh-50-theatre-level-cruise-missile


    Russian sources in early December disclosed the designation ‘Kh-50’ for new Russian airborne theatre-level (substrategic) cruise missile. Purchases of production Kh-50 missiles are planned under Russia’s State Armament Programme for 2018–27 (GPV-2027), the sources added.

    Developed by Raduga Design Bureau of Dubna within the Kh-SD (Sredney Dalnosti, medium-range) programme, the Kh-50 is expected to be a subsonic cruise missile utilising the guidance system of the strategic Kh-101 missile but with a smaller, low-observable airframe, similar to the US AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Stand-off Missile (JASSM). Research and development work on the Kh-SD began in early 1990s, but was subsequently suspended for a number of years.

    Designed to fit in the weapon bays of the Tupolev Tu-22M3 theatre and Tu-95MS and Tu-160 strategic bombers, the Kh-50 missile is about 6m (19.7 ft) in length – about 1.5 m (4.9 ft) less than the Kh-101 – and weighs around 1,600 kg (3,527 lb). Powered by an OMKB izdeliye 37-04 (or TRDD-50B) turbofan engine, the missile is expected to achieve a range of over 1,500 km (810 n miles), a cruise speed of 700 km/h (378 kt), and a maximum speed of 950 km/h (513 kt).

    The missile’s body has a flattened cross-section and faceted sides; this shape combines the requirements of radar cross-section reduction and the most efficient use of the heavy bomber’s weapon bay capacity when loaded on six-round rotating launcher. The guidance system includes strap-down inertial navigation corrected by GPS/GLONASS for the cruise phase, and an Otblesk electro-optical digital scene-matching area correlation (DSMAC) system for use close to the target. Apart from the low-observable airframe, to penetrate the enemy air defence the Kh-50 missile uses low-altitude flight profile and is equipped with self-protection devices, including a small active electronic jammer and towed decoys.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:10 pm

    The TsVO will receive Su-34 bombers in early 2018
    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20171222/1511479384.html
    MOSCOW, Dec 22 - RIA Novosti. The Central Military District of Russia in January-March next year will receive the first six Su-34 bombers, well-proven in Syria, told reporters on Friday, the assistant to the commander of the troops of the Central Military District, Colonel Yaroslav Roshupkin.

    The planes will be deployed in the Chelyabinsk region.
    "The pilots of the air regiment Shagol started re-training for the Su-34 multifunctional fighter-bomber and plan to take the first six planes into combat employment in the first quarter of 2018. The training is conducted on the basis of the State Training Center for Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Ministry of Defense in Lípetsk," said Roshchupkin.

    According to Roshchupkin, the training will last two months. At the final stage pilots will perform flights with development of aerobatics elements.



    Then, the destiny of the last Su-34 of 2017 is Lipestk for conversion of pilots, and later the 2BAP of Chelyabisnk in the first months of 2018.
    The question is 2 planes of the last 8 of 2017 could stay in Lipestk more time or definiively , as the squadron of Lipestsk need more planes, currently only had 9.

    About the number 36 of Khurba, one airplane could have been change of tail number if in that base the number is retired (as Nº05 in the Su-27/35in Lipestk, the Nº08 , 26, 28, in Khurba, etc...).
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:46 am

    They r being modernized for air superiority & may carry Х-101
    vpressa.ru/war21/article/188033/?utm_source=24smi&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=2007&utm_content=1390666&utm_campaign=573
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5-101
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:31 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They r being modernized for air superiority & may carry Х-101
    vpressa.ru/war21/article/188033/?utm_source=24smi&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=2007&utm_content=1390666&utm_campaign=573
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5-101

    let me guess then all new missiles like Kh-50 and GZUR (hypersonic) will also to be fitted.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:01 am

    Well, yes Kh-50 will easily fit if Kh-101 will be fitted. I'm not sure about the other system you mention as only hypersonic Cruse missile I'm aware of is the Zircon.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:49 am

    AMCXXL wrote: The TsVO will receive Su-34 bombers in early 2018
    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20171222/1511479384.html
    MOSCOW, Dec 22 - RIA Novosti. The Central Military District of Russia in January-March next year will receive the first six Su-34 bombers, well-proven in Syria, told reporters on Friday, the assistant to the commander of the troops of the Central Military District, Colonel Yaroslav Roshupkin.

    The planes will be deployed in the Chelyabinsk region.
    "The pilots of the air regiment Shagol started re-training for the Su-34 multifunctional fighter-bomber and plan to take the first six planes into combat employment in the first quarter of 2018. The training is conducted on the basis of the State Training Center for Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Ministry of Defense in Lípetsk," said Roshchupkin.

    According to Roshchupkin, the training will last two months. At the final stage pilots will perform flights with development of aerobatics elements.



    Then, the destiny of the last Su-34 of 2017 is Lipestk for conversion of pilots, and later the 2BAP of Chelyabisnk in the first months of 2018.
    The question is 2 planes of the last 8 of 2017 could stay in Lipestk more time or definiively , as the squadron of Lipestsk need more planes, currently only had 9.

    About the number 36 of Khurba, one airplane could have been change of tail number if in that base the number is retired (as Nº05 in the Su-27/35in Lipestk, the Nº08 , 26, 28, in Khurba, etc...).

    I think we expect 4 until the end of the year for the completiom of 2017 plan delivey


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:53 pm

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:15 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    These bombs look like BetABs or maybe KAB-1500Krs. If its the latter its good that Russian pilots are training with PGMs more.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:36 am

    Pretty sure it's KAB-1500LG

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:43 pm

    George1 wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote: The TsVO will receive Su-34 bombers in early 2018
    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20171222/1511479384.html
    MOSCOW, Dec 22 - RIA Novosti. The Central Military District of Russia in January-March next year will receive the first six Su-34 bombers, well-proven in Syria, told reporters on Friday, the assistant to the commander of the troops of the Central Military District, Colonel Yaroslav Roshupkin.

    The planes will be deployed in the Chelyabinsk region.
    "The pilots of the air regiment Shagol started re-training for the Su-34 multifunctional fighter-bomber and plan to take the first six planes into combat employment in the first quarter of 2018. The training is conducted on the basis of the State Training Center for Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Ministry of Defense in Lípetsk," said Roshchupkin.

    According to Roshchupkin, the training will last two months. At the final stage pilots will perform flights with development of aerobatics elements.



    Then, the destiny of the last Su-34 of 2017 is Lipestk for conversion of pilots, and later the 2BAP of Chelyabisnk in the first months of 2018.
    The question is 2 planes of the last 8 of 2017 could stay in Lipestk more time or definiively , as the squadron of Lipestsk need more planes, currently only had 9.

    About the number 36 of Khurba, one airplane could have been change of tail number if in that base the number is retired (as Nº05 in the Su-27/35in Lipestk, the Nº08 , 26, 28, in Khurba, etc...).

    I think we expect 4 until the end of the year for the completiom of 2017 plan delivey




    http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/arch/index.php?id=5951
    Moscow, December 22. Today, the Sukhoi Company has transferred the next batch of Su-34 front-line bombers to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in the framework of fulfilling the state defense order of 2017. The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment.

    The number of 16 planned for 2017 will be handed over as usual. This has not matter. Russians were educated in the Soviet discipline and they fulfill the plans.
    8 for Khurba and other 8 without a know destination today.

    The number of 6 to deploy in the first 3 months to Chelyabinsk is a different thing

    The last lots of Su-34´s 2017 seems to have gone to Lipestk for "re-training" , or in better words, for conversión of (veteran) pilots to new hardware.
    Once the pilots have enough skill (2-3 monts) with new sistems will be transferred to 2 BAP
    The remaining two Su-34s of 2017 could stay in Lipestk since here, now only has 9 planes and he also needs to complete a squadron.
    Anyway we must wait for the pictures for be sure.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:57 am

    one more thing, if avionics will be improved and radar is enoug good then S-34 would dramatically increase umber of Russian fighters for air defense roles.


    miketheterrible wrote:Well, yes Kh-50 will easily fit if Kh-101 will be fitted. I'm not sure about the other system you mention as only hypersonic Cruse missile I'm aware of is the Zircon.

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3016213.html

    About both missiles.

    Another Russian development designed to operate in conditions of strong enemy air defense is a new tactical operational hypersonic missile developed jointly by the head enterprise of the Corporation Tactical Missile Arms Corporation in Korolev and the State MRC "Raduga" in Dubna as part of the program "Hypersonic guided missile "(GZUR). The military designation of this missile is still undiscovered.

    According to reports, GZUR is a missile with a speed of M = 6 and with a range of 1500 km in flight by altitude profile. The length of the rocket is 6 m, and the weight is about 1500 kg. As you can understand, the missile has mainly anti-ship designation. The missile will be equipped with a ramjet engine Product 70 developed by PJSC TMKB Soyuz in Turaevo and equipped with a combined active-passive radar homing head known as Gran-75, which is being developed by JSC Ural Design Bureau "Detail" in Kamensk-Uralsky; broadband passive channel ("Gran-75PK") for this homing head is created by JSC "Central Design Bureau of Automation" (TsKBA) in Omsk. "Face-75" is understood as a modification of the "Gran-K" self-guidance head,

    According to sources in the Russian industry, by 2020 it is assumed that the rocket of GZUR will be mass-produced at a rate of "up to 50 items per year", which suggests that it is currently being tested.


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    The most complete information about the current Russian program of supersonic aviation weapons was presented by the former commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force Colonel-General Alexander Zelin in a lecture delivered at a conference of aviation industry representatives in Moscow in April 2013. According to General-Colonel Zelin, Russia is now implementing a two-stage program for the development of hypersonic missiles. The first stage envisages the development by 2020 of a "compact operational and tactical aviation missile with a range of 1,500 km and a speed of 6 Mach"; this is the aforementioned GZUR. It should be supplemented in the next decade with weapons at a speed of M = 12, assuming a global range.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:24 am

    so this is separate from Zircon?
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:31 am

    miketheterrible wrote:so this is separate from Zircon?

    Looks like. It is 1500km range and airborne. if it fits into Tu-22 carousels it would be major ass kick against carrier groups.  3xTUs 12 missiles each. Saturation attack with 36 hypersonic cruise missiles?


    Edit: @Mike Apologies ,for some strange reason no link wa inserted last time. For more about missiles please follow the link

    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/12/22/x50/

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3016213.html


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    Post  AMCXXL on Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:03 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote: The TsVO will receive Su-34 bombers in early 2018
    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20171222/1511479384.html
    MOSCOW, Dec 22 - RIA Novosti. The Central Military District of Russia in January-March next year will receive the first six Su-34 bombers, well-proven in Syria, told reporters on Friday, the assistant to the commander of the troops of the Central Military District, Colonel Yaroslav Roshupkin.

    The planes will be deployed in the Chelyabinsk region.
    "The pilots of the air regiment Shagol started re-training for the Su-34 multifunctional fighter-bomber and plan to take the first six planes into combat employment in the first quarter of 2018. The training is conducted on the basis of the State Training Center for Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Ministry of Defense in Lípetsk," said Roshchupkin.

    According to Roshchupkin, the training will last two months. At the final stage pilots will perform flights with development of aerobatics elements.



    Then, the destiny of the last Su-34 of 2017 is Lipestk for conversion of pilots, and later the 2BAP of Chelyabisnk in the first months of 2018.
    The question is 2 planes of the last 8 of 2017 could stay in Lipestk more time or definiively , as the squadron of Lipestsk need more planes, currently only had 9.

    About the number 36 of Khurba, one airplane could have been change of tail number if in that base the number is retired (as Nº05 in the Su-27/35in Lipestk, the Nº08 , 26, 28, in Khurba, etc...).

    I think we expect 4 until the end of the year for the completiom of 2017 plan delivey




    http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/arch/index.php?id=5951
    Moscow, December 22. Today, the Sukhoi Company has transferred the next batch of Su-34 front-line bombers to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in the framework of fulfilling the state defense order of 2017. The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment.

    The number of 16 planned for 2017 will be handed over as usual. This has not matter. Russians were educated in the Soviet discipline and they fulfill the plans.
    8 for Khurba and other 8 without a know destination today.

    The number of 6 to deploy in the first 3 months to Chelyabinsk is a different thing

    The last lots of Su-34´s 2017 seems to have gone to Lipestk for "re-training" , or in better words, for conversión of (veteran) pilots to new hardware.
    Once the pilots have enough skill (2-3 monts) with new sistems will be transferred to 2 BAP
    The remaining two Su-34s of 2017 could stay in Lipestk since here, now only has 9 planes and he also needs to complete a squadron.
    Anyway we must wait for the pictures for be sure.

    As the Sukhoi webpage announced last week , the Su-34´s batch of decemeber were delivered.
    This is the photo of the last seen, Nº06 that will go in 2018 to Chelyabinsk after pilots conversión in Lipestk
    The other Nº06´s in RuAF are:
    RF-95070 Nº06 of 47 BAP
    RF-93835 Nº06 of 559 BAP (dark camouflage)
    RF-81714 Nº06 of 277 BAP
    No doubt this is a different Su-34


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:38 am

    According to reports, GZUR is a missile with a speed of M = 6 and with a range of 1500 km in flight by altitude profile. The length of the rocket is 6 m, and the weight is about 1500 kg. As you can understand, the missile has mainly anti-ship designation.

    Sounds like a variation of the anti ship missile designed for tactical/theatre aviation.

    Its name is similar to Zir as in Zircon.


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:11 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    According to reports, GZUR is a missile with a speed of M = 6 and with a range of 1500 km in flight by altitude profile. The length of the rocket is 6 m, and the weight is about 1500 kg. As you can understand, the missile has mainly anti-ship designation.

    Sounds like a variation of the anti ship missile designed for tactical/theatre aviation.

    Its name is similar to Zir as in Zircon.

    GZUR in Cyrillic (ГЗУР) stands from programme name, noto sure if it will ne an official name tho:  

    "Гиперзвуковая управляемая ракета» (ГЗУР)"  Giperzvukoaya Ypravlyaemaya Raketa = Hyperosnic Guided Missile

    This one is supposed to be airborne only and according to Janes mostly for AShM role.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:02 pm

    Six new Su-34 bombers were built to re-equip the 2nd bomber regiment

     As reported on December 22, 2017 by the press service of the Central Military District (FVO), pilots of the aviation regiment of the TsVO stationed in the Chelyabinsk region began re-training for the newest multifunctional fighter-bomber Su-34. The first six aircraft will be delivered to the unit until the end of February 2018.

     Training is conducted at the Lipetsk Aviation Center, where the pilots will study the tactical and technical characteristics of the Su-34, its technological base and features of the piloting technique. The retraining program also includes a specialized course on ground simulators.

     At the final stage, the pilots will fly to combat use on new types of aircraft with the development of elements of aerobatics. The training will last for two months.

     The bmpd comment. Thus, we are talking about the beginning of rearmament for the new Su-34 front-line bombers of the 2nd Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment of the 21st Mixed Air Division of the 14th Smolensk Red Banner Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Central Military District stationed at the Shagol airfield (Chelyabinsk) and now equipped front-line bombers Su-24M2.

     The six mentioned Su-34 aircraft, which should be the first to re-equip the 2nd bomber regiment before the end of February 2018, have already been built at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant under the program of 2017. These aircraft, having red on-board numbers from "01" to "06", were transferred to the Russian Air Force Center in pairs on November 24, December 22 and, presumably, in the last days of December 2017 year, and were temporarily transferred to the 4th State Training Center for Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Russian Ministry of Defense named after VP Chkalov in Lipetsk for the retraining of the flight crew of the 2nd Bomber Regiment In February 2018, upon completion of the retraining, these six aircraft must arrive with the crew from Lipetsk to Shagol.

    Thus, in 2017, NAPO produced a total of 16 Su-34 aircraft. It should be recalled that earlier NAPO transferred 10 military bombers Su-34 - four in the party on May 22, 2017 (planes with red onboard numbers "24", "25", "27" and "29"), four in the state defense order of 2017 October 16, 2017 (the aircraft with the red onboard numbers "30", "31", "32" and "33") and two in the party on November 18, 2017 (presumably, the planes with red side holes "34" and "36" ). All of them entered the 277th Bomber Aviation Regiment of the 303rd Mixed Air Division of the 11th Red Banner Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District at Khurba airfield (near Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Khabarovsk Territory), allowing it to complete its complete rearmament from bombers Su-24M2.

     All Su-34 aircraft built in 2017 were manufactured under the contract with the Russian Defense Ministry from February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With the delivery of 16 new Su-34s in 2017, the total number of aircraft of this type, transferred to the VCS under the contract of 2012, reached 70 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, 18 more aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, and now 16 - in 2017.

    The total number of Su-34 built for all contracts, including seven pre-production and pre-production models, reached 114 units.

     The 2nd Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment in Shagol will become the fourth military regiment of the Russian Air Force, re-equipped with Su-34 aircraft, after the 47th mixed aviation regiment of the 105th Mixed Air Division of the 6th Leningrad Red Banner Air Force and Air Defense Command of the Western Military District at the Baltimore airfield (Voronezh), which in 2011-2013 received 24 Su-34 units, the 559th Bomber Aviation Regiment of the 1st Mixed Air Division of the 4th Red Banner Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia of the Southern Military District at the Morozovsk aerodrome (Rostov Region) which received 36 Su-34s in 2013-2015 and the 277th Bomber Aviation Regiment of the 303rd Mixed Air Division of the 11th Red Banner Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District at Khurba airfield, which in 266-2017 received 26 aircraft Su-34.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3030360.html

    So we expect 22xSu-34 more in total. in 2018 and 2019 the full order of 129 Su-34s will be completed russia


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    Post  Kimppis on Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:30 pm

    Shouldn't there be additional orders? So around 145 Su-34s by the end of 2019, not 129...
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    Post  AMCXXL on Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:16 pm

    Kimppis wrote:Shouldn't there be additional orders? So around 145 Su-34s by the end of 2019, not 129...

    Not necessarily , it is pending a contract of 12 Su-34 with Algeria , so NAPO can produce 16-18 for Russia in 2018 and 4-6 in 2019 completing the order of 92 , and also to produce the 12 for Algeria in 2019. Or a combination between both orders, given that in total, NAPO has 34 aircraft pending for two next years.

    It is announced for 2020 the start of the production of the next version Su-34M so the new contract will be Su-34M
    The production after 2018 probably will be not only for Russia that only will need 12 Su-34M per year between 2020 and 2023 or 2025, given that Argelia want to buy more airplanes (up to 40) and other countries could be interested in Su-34

    With the 129 contracted (and one prototype trasnferred to Vorónezh Air Force Academy) there are enough for 10 squadrons:
    Lípetsk (1 with 12-14) , Vorónezh (2) , Morozovsk (3) , Khurba (2) , Chelyabinsk (2) , and other airplanes in Akhtubinsk (4-6) and Air Force Academy (2-4)
    The third sqdn, of Morozovsk should be destined to Gvardeyyskoye (Crimea) when South Military District gets a second regiment in Marinovka.
    After 2020 probably all Su-24M/M2 will have been removed from the service in the VVS, remaining only 3 or 4 dozens of Su-24MR pending for replace for Su-34M

    After that other 2-3 regiments (48-72 airplanes) will complete the program in Marinovka , Shatalovo or Varfolomeyevka
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:56 pm

    These are photos I put in the Syria/Russia thread but they show three interestingly different bomb loads, but all aimed at small areas, and two different camouflage schemes so I thought it would be of interest to put them here as well. I assume the different colours are due to the aircraft being rotated in from different parts of the RuAF.

    The second photo shows a mix of bombs, what are they? EDIT This photo is apparently not recent.






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    Post  kopyo-21 on Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:02 am

    Honestly, I don't think Su-34 will have much potential for export. The low flying tactic is not suitable for modern wars nowaday. With SVP-24 Gefest & T, a targeting pod and a terrain avoidance radar pod, an upgraded Su-27 or Su-30SM or Su-30MK2 can handle the job of Su-34 well while cheaper to accquire, better air-to-air capability and simplifier to do maintenance (for who already have Su-27s, Su-30mk2s or Su-30SMs in service).
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:49 am

    I think only a few airforces would find it to be useful because it is such a specialised aircraft.

    Look at the exports of the ground attack Tornado or the F-111...

    Of course the Su-34 could be adapted to carry a wide range of AAMs and make an interesting long range low speed interceptor for patrolling large areas like Australia or Canada or Siberia looking for low flying cruise missiles...


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