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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  medo on Sun May 29, 2016 10:52 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    franco wrote:Believe this to be a part of a larger air war game in the Crimea with a squadron from each type being forward deployed there as part of that.

    This war game is interesting because MiG-29SMT is modern fighter, which is on level with F-16, F/A-18, Rafale and Eurofighter. If Su-34 achieve good results in air combat, specially in close air combat against MiG-29SMT, than it could as well against those fighters. Good air combat capabilities with the latest AAMs and with very long range and long time flying capabilities could make Su-34 also an interesting very long distance air patrol fighter and not only a fighter bomber. For Far East and Arctic region Su-34 could be a great supplement to MiG-31 interceptors.

    Well that is abit of an overestimation for MiG29SMT to compare it with Eurofighters and Rafale.

    Not that much. In agility MiG-29SMT is no worse than Eurofighter and Rafale. It also have new more capable IRST and modern Zhuk-M radar and in combination with R-77, it is not much worse than those two. For Su-34 to outmaneuver MiG-29SMT and win in air combat mean that it could win against Eurofighter and Rafale as well.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun May 29, 2016 11:17 am

    medo wrote: Not that much. In agility MiG-29SMT is no worse than Eurofighter and Rafale. It also have new more capable IRST and modern Zhuk-M radar and in combination with R-77, it is not much worse than those two. For Su-34 to outmaneuver MiG-29SMT and win in air combat mean that it could win against Eurofighter and Rafale as well.

    I guess Militarov can eventually agree on parity with F-16 or Eurofighter but never Rafale, his constant object of admiration Razz As for Su-34 I guess his secondary task might indeed be in fighter function. Better something than nothing...
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Militarov on Sun May 29, 2016 12:23 pm

    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:
    franco wrote:Believe this to be a part of a larger air war game in the Crimea with a squadron from each type being forward deployed there as part of that.

    This war game is interesting because MiG-29SMT is modern fighter, which is on level with F-16, F/A-18, Rafale and Eurofighter. If Su-34 achieve good results in air combat, specially in close air combat against MiG-29SMT, than it could as well against those fighters. Good air combat capabilities with the latest AAMs and with very long range and long time flying capabilities could make Su-34 also an interesting very long distance air patrol fighter and not only a fighter bomber. For Far East and Arctic region Su-34 could be a great supplement to MiG-31 interceptors.

    Well that is abit of an overestimation for MiG29SMT to compare it with Eurofighters and Rafale.

    Not that much. In agility MiG-29SMT is no worse than Eurofighter and Rafale. It also have new more capable IRST and modern Zhuk-M radar and in combination with R-77, it is not much worse than those two. For Su-34 to outmaneuver MiG-29SMT and win in air combat mean that it could win against Eurofighter and Rafale as well.

    One thing is agility other thing is avionics, SMT is really not that modern in terms of its avionics to be fair, MiG-35/M (whatever they prefer to call it these days) would be other thing. Sure its light years ahead of what 9.12s were originally but still imo its quite unrealistic to compare it with EF/Rafale i would rather rougly compare it to F16 Block 50/52 or latest variants of some older NATO fighters like Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2.

    Also i think you forgot about P.I.R.A.T.E
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    Post  Militarov on Sun May 29, 2016 12:28 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    medo wrote: Not that much. In agility MiG-29SMT is no worse than Eurofighter and Rafale. It also have new more capable IRST and modern Zhuk-M radar and in combination with R-77, it is not much worse than those two. For Su-34 to outmaneuver MiG-29SMT and win in air combat mean that it could win against Eurofighter and Rafale as well.

    I guess Militarov can eventually agree on parity with F-16 or Eurofighter but never Rafale, his constant object of admiration Razz  As for Su-34 I guess his secondary task might indeed be in fighter function. Better something than nothing...

    Na, not really i am indifferent towards Rafale as they say, i tho like certain of its capabilities, really good all round capabilities.

    Su-34 truly is frontline fighter-bomber, it was truly supposed to be able and defend itself from aerial threats but you cant expect much from its avionics suite as its made towards performing airstrikes. I would expect it to be able and match F16 MLUs for an example or late F5 Tigers, "mid life" Mirages... which is more than good for "bomber", but still its outperformed in that aspect by F15E mostly due to its radar.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  franco on Sun May 29, 2016 11:27 pm

    As reported, at the beginning of June 2016 in the 277th Bomber Aviation Regiment 303rd Composite Air Division, 11th of the Red Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District at the airport Khurba (near Komsomolsk-on-Amur) must be received by the first four new front-line bomber Su-34. These aircraft have already been built at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant and received the painting, including board numbers red with" 01 "to" 04 ".

    Receipt of the Su-34 will mark the beginning of re-277th bomber regiment for this type of aircraft. Currently, the regiment is equipped with 24 modernized bombers Su-24M2. 277th Bomber Regiment will be the third combatant regiment VKS Russia, which will be re-equipped aircraft Su-34, after the 47th Mixed Aviation Regiment 105th Composite Air Division 6th Leningrad of the Red Army Air Force and Air Defence of the Western Military District at the airport Baltimore (Voronezh), received in 2011-2013, 24 units of the Su-34 and the 559th separate Bomber regiment of the 4th of the Red army Air Force and Air defense Russian Southern military District at the airport Morozovsk (Rostov region), received 36 units in 2013-2015 Su-34.
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    Post  Luq man on Tue May 31, 2016 3:32 pm

    Four new Su-34:






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    Post  Isos on Tue May 31, 2016 7:53 pm

    Is there a really big fuel tank for Su series that takes the entire place between the engines. Like the conformal fuel tankers on israeli f-16. For long range strike mission, it's usefull, more aerodynamic, fuell efficient, bigger, reduced RCS.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_fuel_tank#/media/File:RAF_F-15E_Strike_Eagle_Iraq_2004.jpg

    The way they put their missiles by paires on one hardpoint is good too. If russian do the same they could achieve like 16 missiles per plane and it doesn't looks hard to do.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:28 pm

    Hitting the news again, this time with the Kh-35. Given that PR like this is seldom by accident, I wonder why now?

    After its successful use during Russia’s aerial campaign in Syria, the Sukhoi Su-34 fighter bomber is now set to carry even better weapons than those that made it the jihadist terrorists’ worst nightmare, Zvezda TV reported.

    During the Syrian campaign, the Su-34, very aptly designated by NATO as Hellduck, made effective use of its onboard arsenal of a 30 mm cannon, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles and KAB-500S laser-guided bombs, destroying terrorist infrastructure facilities and command centers. The KAB-500S satellite-guided smart bombs are designed to engage reinforced concrete shelters, runways, railway and highway bridges, military industrial installations, warships, and transport vessels and has proved itself as a highly effective weapon against Daesh and other terrorist groups fighting in Syria. The accuracy of the KAB-500S is between 7 and 12 meters while laser-guided and TV-guided equivalents have a stated accuracy of 4 to 7 meters.

    The Defense Ministry now wants to add to this impressive arsenal also anti-ship missiles, such as the modified Kh-35 missile and even plans to adapt the Su-34 to launch a new generation of the so-called aeroballistic missiles.

    The Su-34 was designed to carry the Kh-15 hypersonic air-to-ground aeroballistic missile. Even though considered by experts as a bit outdated, modernizing this workhorse weapon will be no problem at all. The Kh-15 climbs to an altitude of about 40,000 meters and then dives in on the target, accelerating to a speed of about Mach 5, which makes it the fastest aircraft-launched missile to date. Its updated version will fly even higher and faster.

    Su-34 is a multipurpose fighter-bomber capable of effectively targeting surface, sea and air objects in any geographic area with the use of all aircraft munition types. The equipment installed on the Su-34 allows for the use of weapons against several targets simultaneously. Ninety-two modified Su-34s will be delivered to the Russian Air Force before 2020.


    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160709/1042689190/russia-plane-arsenal.html
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:21 am

    Kh-15 standoff missile on Su-34?? interesting...!


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  medo on Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:39 am

    I more wait for air launched Calibr cruise missiles with 1500+ km range to be integrated to Su-34 and Su-30SM. Su-30SM should also carry anti-ship Calibr missile with ~600 km range, which will made RuNAVY Su-30SM very effective anti-ship platform with excellent stand off capabilities.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:57 am

    Sounds like they are satisfied with it as a strike bomber to replace the Su-24 in Russian AF service and are now looking to add naval capabilities to allow it to replace the Su-24 and perhaps Tu-22M3 in Naval service...

    The Tu-22M3 could reportedly carry 10 Kh-15s with four externally on hard points and 6 in the internal rotary weapon bay.

    A new upgraded faster Kh-15 would be interesting and a powerful new weapon for a variety of aircraft...

    Even the upgraded Kh-32 has very impressive performance now... the upgraded Kh-15 would be a very important new weapon...


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    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:27 pm

    Russian Su-34 Bomber Gets Unique New Recon Gear

    Russia’s latest Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bomber will soon be sporting advanced radio surveillance gear that will allow the crew to spot and destroy enemy headquarters, communications and drone control centers, the newspaper Izvestiya wrote citing a source at the Defense Ministry in Moscow.

    The new system, dubbed the UKR-RT, is placed inside a container attached to the underside of the Su-34 (NATO reporting name — Full Back).

    “Right now the UKR-RT system is undergoing field trials and will soon be supplied to the Air Force,” the an unnamed source told the newspaper.

    The UKR-RT is primarily designed to locate and “read” the technical signatures of communications systems, radar installations and UAV ground control stations.

    Independent military expert Anton Lavrov said that the new system would turn the frontline bomber into a multirole machine able to fight and reconnoiter all at the same time.

    “With this specialized container on board, the Su-34 will save us the money that would otherwise be needed to develop a new AWACS-type aircraft.”

    During peacetime it can conduct reconnaissance without the use of dedicated spy planes, while in wartime it is less vulnerable compared to reconnaissance planes converted from transport and passenger aircraft,” Lavrov said.

    According to another in dependent defense expert, Dmitry Boltenkov, the UKR-RT has at its heart the M-410 radio reconnaissance system.

    “The M0410 is a downsized version of the more sophisticated Fraktsiya system carried by Russia’s latest Ty-214R reconnaissance plane,” Boltenkov said.

    Many foreign military specialists regard the Tu-2014R as a unique information gathering platform able to spot targets hundreds of kilometers away.

    Several such planes conducted a series of reconnaissance missions late in 2012 near Japanese airspace and are frequent guests in Syria.

    According to an article, titled “Russia Has Deployed its Latest Spy Plane to Syria,” which recently appeared in the authoritative Internet journal Aviationist, the Fraktsiya system allows the Tu-214R not only to intercept radar, electronic communications and even cellphone massagers, but also to use the obtained information to create an “electronic picture of the battlefield” in real time.

    http://sputniknews.com/news/20160801/1043828416/russia-bomber-reconnaissance.html


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    Post  eridan on Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:43 pm

    Would that mean that current rwr/esm suites on su34/su/35 arent precise enough to do pinpoint accurate geolocation of ground emissions? (which can then be followed upon by satnav guided bomb strikes)
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    Post  medo on Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:43 am

    I wonder, if those new recce pod for Su-34 have something to do with those 8 Sych pods, which come in 3 versions, which they were shown a year ago. They were produced 2 in radio/ELINT version, 3 in radar version and 3 in EO version.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1309550.html
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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:50 pm

    100th Su-34 delivered to Russian Air Force on the 85th anniversary of Novosibirsk plant

    http://www.uacrussia.ru/ru/press-center/news/85-letniy-yubiley-aviazavoda-v-novosibirske

    franco can we confirm that we 100 su-34s?? is this number with the prototypes including?


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    Post  franco on Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:58 pm

    George1 wrote:100th Su-34 delivered to Russian Air Force on the 85th anniversary of Novosibirsk plant

    http://www.uacrussia.ru/ru/press-center/news/85-letniy-yubiley-aviazavoda-v-novosibirske

    franco can we confirm that we 100 su-34s?? is this number with the prototypes including?

    Believe they mean 100th air frame in production. My count was 76 the first of the year. You add the 16-18 being produced for this year plus 6-8 prototypes and they could be working on the 100th aircraft.

    Translation of a quote from bmpd in regards to the 100th aircraft story;

    Comment bmpd. Apparently, the statements on the issue now, "the hundredth" bomber Su-34 is a "cunning for the anniversary." According to available information, to date, it has been constructed and handed over the seven flight and two ground experienced and pre-production sample of the T-10B (Su-34), the first five serial Su-34 in 2006-2008, 32 aircraft contracted in 2008 (in 2009-2013 years) and 48 machines from the contract in 2012 to 92 aircraft (in 2013-2016, six aircraft of this number must be transferred in part to Khurba soon). Delivery of the 100th flight of the Su-34 in such a way expected by the end of 2016. (theoretically he should be the last, the 18th aircraft program 2016).
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:15 pm

    Need to talk about the Su-34 to non military types? Lots of snippets in this long write up. They will put an exercise machine in there next!

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/the-flying-tank-sukhoi-su-34-video.html

    Good picture as well.


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    Post  Pincus Shain on Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:09 pm

    Imagine an EW varient of this thing. It would be a real game changer.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:47 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry receives another batch of Sukhoi-34 bombers (No mention on number)

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/896612


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    Post  medo on Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:10 pm

    George1 wrote:Russian Defense Ministry receives another batch of Sukhoi-34 bombers (No mention on number)

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/896612

    At least three. We could see borts 05, 06 and 07 ready for delivery in NAPO.

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    Post  ult on Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:34 pm

    medo wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russian Defense Ministry receives another batch of Sukhoi-34 bombers (No mention on number)

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/896612

    At least three. We could see borts 05, 06 and 07 ready for delivery in NAPO.

    There were 5. 05, 06, 07, 09, 10. All of them to Hurba. They received 01, 02, 03, 04 earlier this year.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  franco on Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:51 pm

    ult wrote:
    medo wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russian Defense Ministry receives another batch of Sukhoi-34 bombers (No mention on number)

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/896612

    At least three. We could see borts 05, 06 and 07 ready for delivery in NAPO.

    There were 5. 05, 06, 07, 09, 10. All of them to Hurba. They received 01, 02, 03, 04 earlier this year.

    What happened to "8"? That confirms the military spokesman who said the delivery makes 50% of the planned years total. And previous article about the 100th Su-34 claimed that 18 were scheduled for this year.
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    Post  franco on Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:15 pm

    In addition to the VKS regiments there are also those aircraft presently assigned to the Training Conversion Center at Lipetsk (9 Su-34, 7 Su-35S and 4 Su-30SM) and the Testing Center at Ahtubinsk ( 4 Su-34, 10 Su-35S and 4 Su-30SM)

    That 10 Su-35S at the Testing Center worry me unless they are focused on new weapons testing.

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