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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:05 am

    TV/terrain-matching homing head...more detailed info in the PGM thread
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:28 pm









    Hopefully you are blessed with good eyesight to read this one.

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:52 pm

    "Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. Moscow, Осtober 28. Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. The aircraft took off from the V.P.Chkalov Novosibirsk Aircraft Plant’s airfield and headed to the place of their deployment.

    At the present time the aircraft plant operates with maximum efficiency. The State Contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for supplies of the Su-34s to the Russian Air and Space Forces up to the year 2020 guarantees a stable work load of the Sukhoi Company for the coming years and identifies long-term development prospects. Currently, Su-34s operate successfully in the military and demonstrate high performance."


    Source: http://uacrussia.ru/en/press-center/news/news-company/novosibirskiy-zavod-sukhogo-peredal-vks-rossii-novuyu-partiyu-frontovykh-bombardirovshchikov-su-34

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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:32 pm

    Militarov wrote:"Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. Moscow, Осtober 28. Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. The aircraft took off from the V.P.Chkalov Novosibirsk Aircraft Plant’s airfield and headed to the place of their deployment.

    At the present time the aircraft plant operates with maximum efficiency. The State Contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for supplies of the Su-34s to the Russian Air and Space Forces up to the year 2020 guarantees a stable work load of the Sukhoi Company for the coming years and identifies long-term development prospects. Currently, Su-34s operate successfully in the military and demonstrate high performance."


    Source: http://uacrussia.ru/en/press-center/news/news-company/novosibirskiy-zavod-sukhogo-peredal-vks-rossii-novuyu-partiyu-frontovykh-bombardirovshchikov-su-34

    Moscow, Осtober 28. Its an old article, no new deliveries


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    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:40 am

    George1 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. Moscow, Осtober 28. Today the Sukhoi Company handed over another batch of Su-34 frontline bombers to the Russian Air and Space Forces according to the 2015 State Defense Order. The aircraft took off from the V.P.Chkalov Novosibirsk Aircraft Plant’s airfield and headed to the place of their deployment.

    At the present time the aircraft plant operates with maximum efficiency. The State Contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for supplies of the Su-34s to the Russian Air and Space Forces up to the year 2020 guarantees a stable work load of the Sukhoi Company for the coming years and identifies long-term development prospects. Currently, Su-34s operate successfully in the military and demonstrate high performance."


    Source: http://uacrussia.ru/en/press-center/news/news-company/novosibirskiy-zavod-sukhogo-peredal-vks-rossii-novuyu-partiyu-frontovykh-bombardirovshchikov-su-34

    Moscow, Осtober 28. Its an old article, no new deliveries

    Why in the name of God i thought its from today... Oh well... nvm...

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    Post  franco on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:33 pm

    3 more Su-34's delivered. One to Morozovsk to complete it's change over while other 2 to Lipetsk to commence training for the next unit to convert. Makes a total of 71 delivered out of 124 on order.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1600652.html

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    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:12 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    Why in the name of God i thought its from today... Oh well... nvm...

    you had right. Sorry..my fault


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    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:13 pm

    franco wrote:3 more Su-34's delivered. One to Morozovsk to complete it's change over while other 2 to Lipetsk to commence training for the next unit to convert. Makes a total of 71 delivered out of 124 on order.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1600652.html

    and 14 out of 16 to be delivered for this year


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  franco on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:23 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Why in the name of God i thought its from today... Oh well... nvm...

    you had right. Sorry..my fault

    Whoever translated the Corporate press release did put October 28 instead of November 28 so you are both right Wink

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    Post  Militarov on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:28 pm

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Why in the name of God i thought its from today... Oh well... nvm...

    you had right. Sorry..my fault

    Whoever translated the Corporate press release did put October 28 instead of November 28 so you are both right  Wink

    Yeah i was just now looking at the date and i am like...what da hell happened here. But yeah, at the end we were both right, rare thing to happen Very Happy

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  ult on Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:13 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:3 more Su-34's delivered. One to Morozovsk to complete it's change over while other 2 to Lipetsk to commence training for the next unit to convert. Makes a total of 71 delivered out of 124 on order.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1600652.html

    and 14 out of 16 to be delivered for this year

    There will be 18 planes this year. 16 planned + 2 extra.

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Austin on Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:30 am

    Does the Su-34 and Su-30SM operating in Syria has MAWS ?

    AFAIK they dont and only Su-35S has 360 degree MAWS ?

    Without MAWS these types operating in Syria wont come to know they are under MANPAD attack

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    Post  medo on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:05 am

    Austin wrote:Does the Su-34 and Su-30SM operating in Syria has MAWS ?

    AFAIK they dont and only Su-35S has 360 degree MAWS ?

    Without MAWS these types operating in Syria wont come to know they are under MANPAD attack

    They don't have optical type MAWS, but that doesn't mean they could not have radar type MAWS. New Pastel RWR placed on the wings and on the tail fins give empty positions of older RWR sensors, so they could easily place some other sensors there. Su-30SM have those positions packed with sensors and they are not RWRs.

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Austin on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:07 am

    They would need a modern gen 360 degree Opitcal MAWS to know they are under attack from MANPADS or IR class missile.

    Su-24 pilot did not knew they were under attack ? Why because it has MAWS on top of Spine probably just covering top 180 Degree

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Mindstorm on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:12 pm

    Austin wrote:Why because it has MAWS on top of Spine probably just covering top 180 Degree

    Yes very likely Austin.

    Л-082 was purposely designed and conceived for open war operations against NATO targets; the very "peculiar" situation in Syrian theatre ,instead, has generated a scenario totally inconceivable for original designers of the system.

    In none instance in a true conflict, in facts, an "enemy" interceptor potentially capable to engage an Su-24M (moreover one perfectly tracked and followed any second, since its take-off, by the Federation's sensor echelon present in the sector) could had be capable to approach at only 5 km of distance at 35 degrees in the rear sector from lower altitude ,receiving target positional update from a pair of AWACS in the area, to deliver an AIM-9X in LOBL close combat mode ostensibly without a radar lock.

    The position on the Su-24M's frame of the Л-082's calotte take into account that in an open conflict a Su-24M  pass through or egressing from a contested area ,would mostly proceed at low altitude and high speed, therefore an air engagement with IR homing missiles would come from the upper hemisphere.  

    If any the very odd modality of this attack (even discounting the spatial ,temporal and procedural elements of the engagement sequence, very far from the normal international procedure between not enemy operators not threatening each the other) reinforce the hypothesis of an accurately planned ambush.

    In particular some factors are important in ascertain that :


    1) The vector and azimuth of approach of the Turkish aircraft, that seem to any extent guided directly by third party ISR assets to an useful point of interception, out of the chosen SU-24Ms sensor FOV.  

    2) The accurate avoidance by part of the F-16 of a direct radar lock , that could have alerted the Su-24M and/or the allied ground operators that was following that Viper in theirs screens ,that the aircraft in question had become hostile

    3) The choice of a close range IR missile, shot at point blank range against a target moving at low speed and totally unaware that any aircraft could even only think to engage it ,not constituting a menace for any actor in the theatre (except for the local terrorist groups).

    This is the technical meaning of the words "stab in the back".


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  franco on Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:56 pm

    Su-34's to carry SR-AAM and MR-AAM from now on in Syria;

    http://tass.ru/en/defense/840427

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:45 pm

    franco wrote:Su-34's to carry SR-AAM and MR-AAM from now on in Syria;

    http://tass.ru/en/defense/840427

    So first time use Su-34 in fighter role. Thne Russian fleet of fighter would grow 2x in Syria.

    BTW Suddenly Turkish PM asks to open military comm channels to "avoid incidents" wonder why previously they could not use them?


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:50 am

    Mindstorm wrote:
    Austin wrote:Why because it has MAWS on top of Spine probably just covering top 180 Degree

    Yes very likely Austin.

    Л-082 was purposely designed and conceived for open war operations against NATO targets; the very "peculiar" situation in Syrian theatre ,instead, has generated a scenario totally inconceivable for original designers of the system.

    In none instance in a true conflict, in facts, an "enemy" interceptor potentially capable to engage an Su-24M (moreover one perfectly tracked and followed any second, since its take-off, by the Federation's sensor echelon present in the sector) could had be capable to approach at only 5 km of distance at 35 degrees in the rear sector from lower altitude ,receiving target positional update from a pair of AWACS in the area, to deliver an AIM-9X in LOBL close combat mode ostensibly without a radar lock.

    The position on the Su-24M's frame of the Л-082's calotte take into account that in an open conflict a Su-24M  pass through or egressing from a contested area of would mostly proceed at low altitude and high speed, therefore an air engagement with IR homing missiles would come from the upper hemisphere.  

    If any the very odd modality of this attack (even discounting the spatial ,temporal and procedural elements of the engagement sequence, very far from the normal international procedure between not enemy operators not threatening each the other) reinforce the hypothesis of an accurately planned ambush.

    In particular some factors are important in ascertain that :


    1) The vector and azimuth of approach of the Turkish aircraft, that seem to any extent guided directly by third party ISR assets to an useful point of interception, out of the chosen SU-24Ms sensor FOV.  

    2) The accurate avoidance by part of the F-16 of a direct radar lock , that could have alerted the Su-24M and/or the allied ground operators that had the Viper was following that Viper in theirs screens ,that the aircraft in question had become hostile

    3) The choice of a close range IR missile, shot at point blank range against a target moving at low speed and totally unaware that any aircraft could even only think to enegage it ,not constituting a menace for any actor in the theatre (except for the local terrorist groups).

    This is the technical meaning of the words "stab in the back".

         

    Indeed this was the Ambush , Aided by All-Lies.

    All the more reason all Russian Fighters/Bombers/Transport should have MAWS , on Su-35S they use UV based MAWS for 360 * coverage , without which detecting IR based missile like SRAAM and MANPADS is impossible and pilot just have to depend on hunch or the rare RWR warning

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:20 am

    Regiment of Southern MD completed upgrading to Su-34

    Aviation Regiment of the Southern Military District (SMD) in the Rostov region has completed upgrading to the newest fighter-bombers Su-34, said on Wednesday the press service of the district.

    "In a single bomber regiment of the Southern Military District (SMD), deployed in the Rostov region entered another front-line fighter-bomber Su-34 ... With the arrival of the aircraft in the regiment completed the formation of a third squadron of Su-34", - said the press service.

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/71060/

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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:50 pm

    As in last year, there will be also for 2015 2x Su-34 over the plan. That means we expect 4 more Su-34


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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:16 pm

    2x Su-34s delivered today. 73 so far in total

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/12/22/375321.html


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    Post  franco on Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:33 am

    Two more Su-34 delivered and total up to 75. This article suggests that Khurba may not be the next unit to be changed over;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1640984.ht

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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:07 am

    franco wrote:Two more Su-34 delivered and total up to 75. This article suggests that Khurba may not be the next unit to be changed over;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1640984.ht

    Excellent my friend! So production has been standardized at 18 cars per year. With this rate the order of 124 units will have been completed in 3 years


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    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:19 pm

    "Concern Radio-electronic technology" (KRET) passed the Defense Ministry first batch of containers of electronic warfare (EW) incremental staff for the Su-34 bombers that make them special aircraft EW capable to protect the whole aviation group, told RIA Novosti on Friday the first deputy general director Igor KRET Nasenkov.

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151225/1348752062.html&usg=ALkJrhjT0NcHRNT2mK_B5dtWxqrmEajy8g


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    Post  medo on Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:57 pm

    George1 wrote:
    "Concern Radio-electronic technology" (KRET) passed the Defense Ministry first batch of containers of electronic warfare (EW) incremental staff for the Su-34 bombers that make them special aircraft EW capable to protect the whole aviation group, told RIA Novosti on Friday the first deputy general director Igor KRET Nasenkov.

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151225/1348752062.html&usg=ALkJrhjT0NcHRNT2mK_B5dtWxqrmEajy8g

    I wonder if those EW pods could be also used on Su-30SM and Su-35.

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