Ukraine halts all military cooperation with Russia

Viktor wrote:It may cause some delays but in general terms it will stengthen Russian defense capabilities

Ukraine introduces ban on Russian military products supplies - Russian military official

on the other hand it will cause Ukraine loose billions of $ and lots of jobs - good luck with nazi party

TR1 wrote:And yet it took them years to make a half-viable Al-31 copy.

Not to mention that would be a terrible idea for the future of the Russian defense industry.

medo wrote:Belarus will replace many Ukrainian components and don't forget on Kazakhstan. UVZ will produce BMPT together with Kazakhstan, so maybe Russia will develop some military industry in Kazakhstan too. Russia already produce helicopter engines, so they only have to increase production. Migs and Sukhois are fully domestic as well as Tupolev. AGAT is from Belarus. Maybe ship engines are problematic, but engines could be bought in South Korea in the mean time.

Anyway, Russian industrial production will well increase in coming years to replace imports from Ukraine and from EU, what will bring more jobs and money to citizens and more money will stay at home. Exports will increase too as many places in the World see the West as unreliable partner with heavy shadow of US sanctions behind. Russia will export no less oil and gas as to now as well as food, which is mostly sold to Arabs. Export of industrial products will increase.

Stopping cooperation with Russia will bring Ukraine in bankruptcy in following months. They could not export their products to the West as well as to other customers as unreliable partner.

Also enough with the constant US bashing, christ.

And yet it took them years to make a half-viable Al-31 copy.

TR1 wrote:Try 4-5 years for all engines. Not sure how reliable these news are. Waiting for motor sich confirmation.

Also enough with the constant US bashing, christ.

mack8 wrote:

Also enough with the constant US bashing, christ.

Why? This whole Ukraine mess is the bastards' show, they want to create another Syria right in the middle of Europe, f*** them and their whole genealogical tree. And any spineless puppets in their service.

calripson wrote:It might be a terrible idea but a helicopter engine is not a jet engine. Also, when it comes to shipbuilding, the Chinese could easily triple Russian naval ship production as subcontractors. China is also very good at mass producing electrical subsystems. China has roughly ten times the labor force of Russia (30 times Ukraine). China graduates 350,000 engineers per annum. (As an aside 54% of US Phds in engineering are foreign born with the majority coming from - China).

TR1 wrote:

mack8 wrote:

Also enough with the constant US bashing, christ.

Why? This whole Ukraine mess is the bastards' show, they want to create another Syria right in the middle of Europe, f*** them and their whole genealogical tree. And any spineless puppets in their service.

Oh yes, Russia has no game here.

We all know Russian policy in the frmer-USSR is driven by love compassion and desire for human rights.

LOL

TR1 wrote:No it didn't. The "Syrian express" of large landing ships has been steadily going to Syria since the early in the war.

Russia has zero point zero moral ground.