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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:36 pm

    With the recent problems of Shtil and Redut, they are probably looking for a quick alternative and testing Tor in its basic form if it will work on navy ships no problem. Then probably work quicker to use a navy variant of it as a temporary replacement for ships till Almaz Antey can get their shit together for their ship based AA systems.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:19 am

    The Tor-M2 surface-to-air missile systems of the 538th anti-aircraft missile regiment in the 726th training center in Yeisk

    As recently reported on our blog, JSC Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant Kupol Concern Almaz-Antey under the state defense order put the first regimental kit of the 9K331M short-range anti-aircraft missile system Tor-M2, which went to re-equip the 538th Tarnopol Guards antiaircraft missile Order Aleksandra Nevskogo regiment, 4th Guards Kantemir tank division of the Western military District. at present, the staff of 538-th regiment trained at the new complex in the 726th training center of troops counter ozdushnoy Defense Ground Forces in Yeisk (Krasnodar region).

    Reporting (including video) about the retraining of staff of 538th regiment of the SAM "Tor-M2" in the 726th training center in Yeisk published March 25, 2017 local web resource www.yeisk.info.



    The bmpd comment. From the text of the report, it can be seen that the regiment of the Tor-M2 missile system is similar in composition to the pre-reform (up to 2009) anti-aircraft missile regiments equipped with early versions of the Tor missile system, and includes four batteries of four anti-aircraft missile systems in each A total of 16 combat vehicles).

    Recall that in 2016, the first two serial divisional kits of the new 9K331M "Tor-M2" SAM were delivered to the Russian Ground Forces, which marked the beginning of the serial production of this system at the Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant "Kupol" JSC. "Tor-M2" Includes three fire batteries (total 12 combat vehicles).

    Ammunition of the combat vehicle of the Tor-M2 missile system is 16 new anti-aircraft guided missiles 9M338K.



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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:27 am

    Actually they had enormous problems with the original naval TOR system... the Udaloy class was in service for several years before they got the guidance system fitted and working... matured into a very capable system however...


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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:09 pm

    Still shooting tests of the anti-aircraft missile system "Tor-M2KM" on the frigate "Admiral Grigorovich"













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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  medo on Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:25 pm





    New arctic Tor-M2DT in Alabino.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Militarov on Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:22 am

    medo wrote:



    New arctic Tor-M2DT in Alabino.

    If you ask me i would use this platform for whole Tor family.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:03 am

    Why is that may I ask?
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    Post  Rmf on Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:33 pm

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    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:46 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Why is that may I ask?

    You can reduce number of vehicles in battery this way, operating cost of this are somewhat lower than current Tor platform and reduces auxilary fleet required per battery. On top of that you have number of cabin variants here, some include living quarters, fuel transport etc. Unification at its finest.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:21 am

    Arctic modification of "Tor-M2DT"



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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Benya on Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:44 am

    First Tor-M2U air defense system regiment deployed in Russia's Southern Military District

    The Russian Ministry of Defense has deployed a regiment of the newest 9K331M Tor-M2U SAM systems in the Rostov region. These systems are capable of destroying drones, airplanes and helicopters while on the move. Under certain conditions, these systems will cope even with such complex targets like precision-guided missiles and bombs. The new military unit became part of the newly formed 150th Motorized Rifle Division, the newspaper Izvestia reported.


    A Russian Tor-M2U air-defence system
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    According to experts, these SAM systems will reliably defend Russian ground forces from precision-guided weapons.

    As Izvestia was told in the Southern Military District, the formation of the 933rd SAM regiment started late last year. The new military unit became part of the 150th Motorized Rifle Division and now is being stationed in the town of Millerovo, Rostov region. Since June 1 this year, the first crews of the regiment started mastering the Tor-M2U at the Air Defense Training Center in the city of Yeisk.

    According to expert Anton Lavrov, the 933th Air Defense Missile Regiment relates to air defense for ground troops. Therefore, unlike the Aerospace Forces’ SAM regiments and brigades, this regiment does not protect important industrial and social facilities. Its task is to cover the regiments, battalions and companies of the division, to which it belongs.

    "The newest Tor-M2U SAM system is able to protect the dispositions of the division both in the position area and on the move," the expert said. "Such systems cover motor rifle, tank and artillery units, headquarters, communication centers and even divisional warehouses. The Tor systems of the new air defense missile regiment will easily repel not only an air raid of attack aircraft, helicopters or attack drones. With their capabilities, they can effectively counter also complex targets such as cruise missiles or precision-guided glide bombs. Such targets are difficult to detect by radar, while their flight path seriously hampers their destruction by surface-to-air missiles."

    The development of the Tor SAM system began in the mid-1970s. However, it was not until 1986 that the SAM systems began entering the field. In 1991, the Tor underwent its first upgrade. The new version was adopted under the M1 designation.

    In 2016 it became known that Russia’s Ministry of Defense had placed a contract for the purchase of several divisional sets of the 9K331M Tor-M2U SAM systems. The Tor-M2U is a completely revamped vehicle. It has received a number of unique capabilities through the latest electronic equipment, including the capability to fire at several targets simultaneously in automatic mode and the fire-on-the-move capability. The 9K331M can engage targets at a range of up to 15 km flying at altitudes up to 10 km. Each Tor-M2U vehicle carries eight missiles.

    The 933rd Verkhnedneprovsky Air Defense Missile Regiment, decorated with the Order of Red Banner and the Order of Alexander Nevsky, was formed in 1942 as the 1273rd anti-aircraft machine-gun regiment. It fought from Smolensk to Berlin during World War II, was decorated and received its honorary names. After the war, the regiment was stationed in the German Democratic Republic. In 1962, it was renamed the 933rd anti-aircraft regiment and, ten years later, became an air defense missile regiment. In 1991, the regiment was transferred to the North Caucasian Military District. Subsequently, the regiment was reduced to a SAM battalion, which, in turn, was disbanded in 2008, the Izvestia newspaper recalls.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_2017_global_defense_security_news_industry/first_tor-m2u_deployed_in_southern_military_district_22306173.html
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:32 pm

    The 9K331M series is tied mostly to Tor-M1. 9K332 is Tor-M2. Unless I am mistaken. But they would be using the newer missiles.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:20 pm

    The anti-aircraft missile regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division is armed with the Tor-M2 surface-to-air missile systems

    As reported on November 9, 2017 to the TASS agency in the press service of the Southern Military District, an anti-aircraft missile regiment of the 150th motorized rifle division deployed in the Rostov region received several sets of the Tor-M2 surface-to-air missile system.

    "ZRS Tor-M2" adopted the anti-aircraft missile regiment, after the docking firing, the personnel of the batteries, together with new equipment, returned from the range in the Astrakhan region, "the press service officer said, refusing to specify the number of troops entering the troops.


    Combat Vehicle 9A331M of the self-propelled 9K331M anti-aircraft missile system Tor-M2 from the 538th Tarnopol Guards Airborne Missile Order Alexander Nevsky regiment of the 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Division of the Western Military District at the 726th Training Center of the Air Defense Forces of the Land Force in Yeisk ( Krasnodar region). March 2017 (with) bastion-karpenko.ru with video www.yeisk.info

    The interlocutor of the TASS noted that the rearmament of anti-aircraft missile units for the latest anti-aircraft missile systems or systems such as S-400 Triumph, Tor-M2, Buk-M2, Buk-M3, S -300V4, as well as anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes "Pantsir-S".

    Since the beginning of 2012, more than 100 sets of advanced surface-to-air missile systems or complexes have been delivered to the south of Russia, he said.

    Earlier on November 3, 2017, the press service of the South-Eastern Military District reported that servicemen of anti-aircraft missile units of the 150th Motorized Rifle Division of the Southern Military District conducted the first combat firing from the Tor-M2 air defense systems. The exercises were completed in the Astrakhan region at the Kapustin Yar test site. In all, more than 30 missiles were consumed, while 100% of targets - imitators of air targets such as "Saman", "Pensne", imitating low-flying and high-speed air targets were hit. In all, more than 300 servicemen and about 70 military equipment were involved in the exercises.

    After the end of the firing, the air defense units of the connection arrived at the station of permanent deployment in the Rostov region with new combat equipment.

    The bmpd comment. Thus, the 933rd Antiaircraft missile Verkhnedneprovsky Red Banner Order of Alexander Nevsky Regiment (stationed in Millerovo, Rostov Region), formed in late 2016, the new 150th motorized rifle division of the 8th Guards Combined-Arms Army of the Southern Military District became the second regiment of the Land Forces of Russia, new short-range missile systems 9K331M Tor-M2.

    Recall that in 2016, the Russian Ground Forces were supplied with the first two serial regimental (called "divisional") kit of the new 9K331M "Tor-M2" SAM, which marked the beginning of a series production of this system at Izhevsk Electromechanical Plant "Kupol" Concern VKO " Almaz-Antey. "The first regiment of the Tor-M2 missile system delivered in 2016 was the regiment of the 538th Tarnopol Guards Air Defense Missile Orders of Alexander Nevsky, the regiment of the 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Division of the Western Military District, the second set - the 933 air defense missile regiment of the 150th Motorized Rifle Division of the Southern Military District.

    The regiment of the Tor-M2 missile system is similar in composition to the pre-reform (up to 2009) anti-aircraft missile regiments equipped with early versions of the Tor missile system, and includes four batteries of four 9A331M ZRS combat vehicles in each (16 combat vehicles in total). The ammunition of the combat vehicle 9A331M ZRS Tor-M2 is 16 new anti-aircraft guided missiles 9M338K.

    Our blog reported that the IEMZ "Kupol" ordered the delivery of JSC "Mytischinsky Machine Building Plant" during 2017-2018, in total 48 tracked chassis GM-5955.15-01 for combat vehicles 9A331M - that is, for the manufacture of three more regiments of SAM 9K331M "Tor-M2 ".

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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  robognus on Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:09 pm

    Tor-M2 launch missiles in motion.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:24 pm

    Great video Robognus.

    These Tor-M2 systems use the newer 9M338 missile with:

    - Faster reaction time
    - Faster launch (compare it with videos of the previous 9M330 missile)
    - Better precision
    - Longer range (no official number given)
    - Smaller size (16 can fit in the vehicle instead of the previous Cool
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:00 pm

    What kind of homing does the 9m338 have?
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    Post  medo on Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:15 pm

    Radio guidance, same as all other Tor missiles.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:19 pm

    What's the accuracy then? I was hoping they were looking at IR/IIR
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    Post  Isos on Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:27 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:What's the accuracy then? I was hoping they were looking at IR/IIR

    It was developed to destroy guided munitions, you know the small things with a smaller rcs than a F-22 that fighters carry. In terms of accuracy it's just the top.

    You can't really transfor Tor missiles in IR missiles because it would be just another system. The radars and softwares are optimized for radio control. IR missiles systems are verba, igla, sstrela-10 and probably Morfei.

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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:27 am

    Accuracy can be improved with more precise control of the missile with more effective flight controls, better radar with more accurate tracking of target and missile, and a more responsive command control system.

    IIR seekers would be expensive to start with.... command guidance is cheap.


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