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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:16 pm

    franco wrote:

    To what extent are you looking for in regards to ORBAT?

    thanks friend! to Divisions / Brigades level

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:05 pm

    There maybe another solution here for you to link yourself. There is no one site to go to, but if you go to Wikipedia Russian Troops of the Interior and then into the Russian language version, you will find a fairly accurate ORBAT of the Regional Commands (copy, paste and translate). Allow me to demonstrate with the NorthWest Region.

    "Northwest Regional Command
    Shoulder patches (Northwest regional command of internal troops of the Russian Interior Ministry)

    Office of Regional Command - St. Petersburg Commander - Lieutenant-General Pavel Petrovich Dashkov

        33th separate brigade operative purpose (Leningrad, Lomonosov district, village Lebyazhe in / h 3526)
        110th special team (St. Petersburg), in its composition - special motorized military units (St. Petersburg, Petrozavodsk, Cherepovets, Pskov, Novgorod, Korjazhma)
        28th squad of special purpose "Warrior" (Arkhangelsk)
        110th Combat Engineer Training Engineering Regiment (Syktyvkar)
        637th Training Regiment of Internal Troops (pos. Lembolovo Leningrad region)
        63th Brigade for the Protection of important state facilities and special cargoes (St. Petersburg, Murmansk, Polar Zori, Pinery, Gatchina)
        military units to ensure
        7th separate aviation squadron MVD Russian Federation (St. Petersburg, Pushkin)"


    This region has 3 brigades;
    - the 33rd is an ON brigade (light infantry combat)
    - the 110th is a Regional Command and Support brigade which commands all the SM (mobile patrol military police type) regiments and battalions stationed in the region (locations look 100%)
    - the 63rd is a Regional Command and Support brigade which commands all the VG (guards) and Marine units in the region (locations look 100%)

    The 28th is the SN (spetz) unit, generally battalion size.

    The 7th is the aviation unit, mostly Mi-8's with possible AN-26's.

    There are 2 training regiments in the Region. Again right on with the numbers, locations and types.

    The only problem I can see would be with some of the translation in regards to unit size and type. This switching to the Russian language version of Wikipedia is also helpful with the ORBAT of the Armed Forces. It is not 100% but definitely in the high 80-90's, again the translation can be a problem with units size and purpose.  

    If I can assist you more, then let me know.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:17 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:

    To what extent are you looking for in regards to ORBAT?

    thanks friend! to Divisions / Brigades level

    The Troops of the Interior Divisions are being changed to Brigades so there is not much difference in sizes or organizations, in fact some Brigades are larger then Divisions. Have read that this change over has been completed in all Regions except the Central. The Divisions and Brigades other then the mobile ON ones are really just Regional Command and Support organizations for the various regiments and battalions scattered throughout their Area of Responsibility.

    Central Region - Moscow

    1st ON division - Balashikha (under national command as reaction force. Includes 3 full regiments of ON and 1 regiment size SN unit)
    12th VV division - Tula (mostly SM and SN units outside of the Moscow Oblast, may include a couple of VG units also)
    21st ON brigade - Sofrino (mobile ON brigade)
    55th VV division - Moscow (SM and SN units in Moscow and Moscow Oblast, may also command the SM units north of the Oblast)
    95th VV division - Moscow (commands most of the VG units in the Region)  

    NorthWest Region - St Petersburg

    33rd ON brigade - Lomonosov (mobile ON brigade)
    63rd VV brigade - St Petersburg (commands VG units in region)
    110th VV brigade - St Petersburg (commands SM and SN units in region)

    Southern Region - Rostov Don

    22nd ON brigade - Kalach-na-Don (mobile ON brigade)
    46th ON brigade - Groznyy (commands ON,SN and SM units in Chechnya)
    47th ON brigade - Krasnodar (commands ON,SN and SM units in Krasnodar / Adygeya regions)
    49th ON brigade - Vladikavkaz (commands ON and SM units in North Ossetia, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria regions)
    50th ON brigade - Novocherkassk (commands SM, VG and SN units in Rostov and Volgagrad regions)
    56th ON brigade - Pyatigorsk (commands ON, SN and SM units in Stavropol and Karachai- Cherkess regions)
    102nd ON brigade - Makhackala (commands ON and SM units in Dagestan, Kalmykia and Astrakhan regions)

    112th ON brigade - Simferopol (commands ON, SN and SM units in Crimea)

    Volga Region - Nizhny Novogorod

    34th ON brigade - Shumilovo (mobile ON brigade)
    35th VV brigade - Samara (commands SM, VG and SN units in the southern regions)
    79th VV brigade - Kirov (commands SM, VG and SN units in the northeast regions)
    94th VV division - Sarov (commands SM and VG units in the northwest regions)

    Ural Region - Ekaterinburg

    93rd VV division - Ozersk (commands SM, VG and SN units in Chelyabinsk region)
    96th VV division - Kalinovka (commands SM, VG and SN units in Sverdlovsk region)

    Siberian Region - Novosibirsk

    42nd VV brigade - Angarsk (commands ON, SM and VG units in the eastern regions)
    82nd VV brigade - Barnual (commands ON, SN, SM and VG units in the southwestern regions)
    91st VV brigade - Krasnoyarsk (commands VG and SM units in the central regions)
    98th VV division - Seversk (commands VG, SM and SN units in the Tomsk and Kemerovo regions)

    Far Eastern Region - Kharbarovsk

    107th VV brigade - Vladivostok (commands SM units in Primorski)
    111th VV brigade - Kharbarovsk (commands SM, VG and SN units north of Primorski region)

    NOTES;
    - 46th brigade has 2 units of Chechen volunteers which apparently have been seconded to the Chechen MVD, which also have 5 units (regiment size) of VV type paramilitary forces
    - 56th brigade was the 48th brigade and then the 98th regiment. Was rumored to be merged with both the 49th and 47th brigades. Not sure of present status.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:01 pm

    Armored vehicle "Ural-BB" in the Russian Interior Ministry in the Crimea









    Is this a new MRAP Vechile?

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:31 am

    Yes, a cheap one.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1177214.html

    Info here.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:16 am

    After completing tests, BULAT is approved by MVD

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/58494/

    Hopefully we will se orders.
    I think TR1 will be pleased as he has a soft spot for the modern day BTR-152 Smile

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  TR1 on Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:08 pm

    Ugh. I hate both that thing and the Vystrel it came from.

    Oh well, the MVD was never exactly trend-setting when it came to their equipment.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:12 pm

    TR1 wrote:Ugh. I hate both that thing and the Vystrel it came from.

    Oh well, the MVD was never exactly trend-setting when it came to their equipment.

    The Ansyr they have is sexy.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:12 pm

    I'm not going to lie, it looks like the 'station wagon' of lightly armored vehciles. BTW doesn't 'BULAT' sound similar to a Russian curse word?

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  Regular on Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:41 pm

    Well it's better than Vystrel anyway.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:14 am

    Russian Interior Ministry Τroops in the Crimea

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:43 am

    George1 wrote:Russian Interior Ministry Τroops in the Crimea

    So 4 SM, 1 SN and 1 ON sub-units. Seems to be slightly different unit make up then under Ukrainian but not by much. There are 6 units in both.

    PS; like that pretty blond standing in the center Very Happy

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:33 am

    BTR-82 armored vehicles for the Russian Interior Ministry Troops

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  cracker on Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:07 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:I'm not going to lie, it looks like the 'station wagon' of lightly armored vehciles. BTW doesn't 'BULAT' sound similar to a Russian curse word?

    булат is basically damascus steel. Commonly used in military names recently... as the T-64BM bulat.

    nothing to do with блять, blyat, basically, damn, fuck, etc...

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:35 pm

    Russian interior troops exercise begins in 6 federal districts, including Crimea

    The exercise is aimed at drilling the use of troops in case of aggravation of the situation in Russian regions to cope with new threats to the state’s internal security, spokesman for the troops says

    MOSCOW, April 2. /TASS/. Large-scale strategic exercise of Russia’s Interior Troops codenamed Zaslon-2015 has been launched in 6 federal districts, including Crimea, spokesman for the troops Vasily Panchenkov told TASS on Thursday.

    He said that the exercise is conducted in the period from April 2 to 10 under the command of First Deputy Interior Minister — Commander of Interior Troops Colonel General Viktor Zolotov.

    "The exercise is aimed at drilling the use of troops (forces) in case of aggravation of the situation in Russian regions to cope with new threats to the state’s internal security that is in line with the federal law on interior troops," he said.

    According to the spokesman, the strategic exercise is underway in the North-Western, Central, Volga, North Caucasus, Southern and Crimean Federal Districts. The manoeuvres involve some 40,000 troops and about 1,500 military and special equipment units.

    He said that the interior troops have a number of tasks under the law, including participation in joint operations with the police in ensuring public law and order, combating terrorism, guarding of important state facilities and special cargoes and participation in the Russian territorial defence.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:19 pm

    George1 wrote:Spetnaz MVD (called OSNAZ by the MVD) includes 25 Internal Troops units, which are of good quality and intended for use to combat insurgency, border security and for counter-terrorism purposes. These units usually have a unique name and official OSN number.
    They are very well-trained and equipped, being far superior to the regular Russian infantry. Their missions may include reconnaissance missions and regular combat operations (mostly house-to-house close quarters battle assaults). They (especially "Vityaz") have sometimes served as the back-up team during the counter-terrorist operations by team "Alpha", much like how United States Army Rangers work with 1st SFOD-D (a.k.a. "Delta Force").

    Today the current spetsnaz formations under the internal troops are as follows:

       604 TsSN, VV, Vityaz, Balashikha
       7 OSN, VV, Rosich, Kadamovsky
       12 OSN, VV, Ural, Nizhny Tagil
       15 OSN, VV, Vyatich, Armavir
       17 OSN, VV, Edelweiss, Mineralny Vody
       19 OSN, VV, Ermak, Novosibirsk
       21 OSN, VV, Taiphoon, Khabarovsk
       23 OSN, VV, Mechel, Chelyabinsk
       25 OSN, VV, Mercury, Smolensk
       26 OSN, VV, Kazan
       27 OSN, VV, Kuzbass, Kemerovo
       28 OSN, VV, Arkhangelsk.
       29 OSN, VV, Ufa
       33 OSN, VV, Peresvet, Moscow
       34 OSN, VV, Grozny

    Believe there is also the 30th OSN in Stavropol and now the 35th OSN in Crimea.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:15 am

    George1 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    MVD is the Russian ministry of internal affairs, so their special purpose troops will have missions like dealing with terrorists inside Russian territory. They would deal with things like hostage situations like Beslan.

    There is also the SOBR for counter-terrorism operations

    SOBR would be the equivalent of Police SWAT forces.

    OMON are the equivalent of reaction, riot or combat police in Germany, South Korea, Japan etc.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Tue May 26, 2015 1:09 pm

    Russian Spetsnaz: Are You Tough Enough?

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:58 pm

    Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:01 pm

    franco wrote:Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

    Internal Troops soldiers are civil servants or servicemen?


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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:15 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

    Internal Troops soldiers are civil servants or servicemen?

    Uniformed or serviceman along with police, FGUP, traffic control, FMS, etc. Would expect the Civil Servants to mainly be at National HQ.

    The last breakdown I had was;
    - 462,700 MVD
    - 186,300 VV
    - 270,000 FGUP
    - 174,400 civilians
    = 1,106,472 total

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:02 am

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

    Internal Troops soldiers are civil servants or servicemen?

    They are police, not counted as part of the military AFAIK.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:34 am

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

    Internal Troops soldiers are civil servants or servicemen?

    Uniformed or serviceman along with police, FGUP, traffic control, FMS, etc. Would expect the Civil Servants to mainly be at National HQ.

    The last breakdown I had was;
    - 462,700 MVD
    - 186,300 VV
    - 270,000 FGUP
    - 174,400 civilians
    = 1,106,472 total

    MVD would be police.
    VV are Troops of the Interior
    FGUP are private security run by the MVD protecting businesses and government operations alike. Probably most of the reductions would be from this group.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:34 am

    franco wrote:
    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Updated 2015 authorized manpower totals for the MVD;
    - 835,825 uniformed
    - 167,347 civilians

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F&sandbox=1

    Internal Troops soldiers are civil servants or servicemen?

    Uniformed or serviceman along with police, FGUP, traffic control, FMS, etc. Would expect the Civil Servants to mainly be at National HQ.

    The last breakdown I had was;
    - 462,700 MVD
    - 186,300 VV
    - 270,000 FGUP
    - 174,400 civilians
    = 1,106,472 total

    MVD would be police.
    VV are Troops of the Interior
    FGUP are private security run by the MVD protecting businesses and government operations alike. Probably most of the reductions would be from this group.

    Apparently, they are actually profitable as well, one of the few.  So cutting their budget down is considered a stupid move.  But the proposed 10% cuts is said to be mainly management and upper echelon:
    http://ria.ru/society/20150713/1126408107.html

    But yes, there is talk overall.  The 10% will be spread out so the damages are minimal or almost none existent. Apparently, Russia in 2013 was the country in #1 spot for most cops per 100,000 citizens in the world.

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    Re: National Guard of Russia Thread

    Post  franco on Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:18 pm

    An article on the latest MVD planned reductions. Appears the private security division will take the biggest hit;
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://topwar.ru/82411-sokraschenie-policii-kto-budet-ohranyat-poryadok.html&usg=ALkJrhgQFRrlBQjEIJSqApvpftVIlvY1oQ

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