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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Austin on Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:15 am

    TR1 wrote:Those photos have been floating around for a while, though it was unclear if it was indeed Kh-32.

    http://russianplanes.net/id121764
    http://russianplanes.net/id114329
    Thanks for those Pics.

    The Range of 600-1000 km is really superb as it affords long stand off capability , also the fact that it cruises at 40 Km makes it invulnerable to Air Intercept and many range of SAM.

    In book - "Russian Strategic Aviation Today - Yefim Gordon & Dmitriy Komissarov" quoting the Kh-32 part below

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    The principal weapon of modernised Tu-22M3 will be the Kh-32 supersonic air-to-surface missile developed by NPO Raduga as an upgrade of the familiar Kh-22. It features an improved rocket motor and a new seeker head.

    The old Kh-22 anti-shipping missile was severely handicapped by its shortrange - a few hundered kilometers, that is, within visual range for a high flying aircraft. Over-the-horizon attackes were all but impossible: the Kh-22's seeker head could not find the target. In a real-life attack scenario against a carrier task force, the Tu-22M3 would have to break through fightercover , inevitably suffering loss.

    Raguda new Kh-32 is the solution. While Kh-22 climbs to 22000m and acclerates to about 3600 km/h on the way to target, the Kh-32 at first soars up almost to the outer space an altitude of some 44 km/27.3 miles then "looks beyond the horizon", detecting the target at 600 km or even 1000 km range. The warhead/seeker of the new missile is much smarter - it can classify the targets and select the priority target an aircraft carrier or cruiser.

    Also the Kh-32 closes on the target at much higher speed, which makes it impossible to intercept. In Russia that this missile and the Tu-22M3 modernisation to carry it are considered a serious military detterent and an effective weapon against the most powerful carrier task force. Test of the Kh-32 were successfuly conpleted back in late 1990 in so doing the long range aviation worked in close co-operation with the Navy,which willing supplied decommisioned warships as target.

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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:23 am

    AFAIK the new rocket motor accelerates the missile to a flight speed of mach 4.5... the airframe itself is offered as a test platform for high altitude studies with heavy payloads of equipment and sensors while flying at sub mach 5 speeds.

    The Kh-22M is out of service, as is its dangerous liquid fuel Red Fuming Nitric Acid (RFNA)... it is unknown what fuel the new Kh-32 uses but it may be a storable liquid that does not require fuelling just before take off.


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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  TR1 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:38 am

    What I am interested in is approach speed, and if it is faster than Kh-22.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:09 pm

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:05 pm

    According to British catalog Military Balance, Russian Air Force currently operates 16 aircraft Tu-160, 32 aircraft Tu-95MS (including mothballed ones), and 115 bombers Tu-22M3 with only 40 operable.
    Not very clear are they?

    According to Wiki the Russian AF had 93 in service in December 2010 and the VMF (Naval Air Force) had 58 in use in December 2010.

    The VMF birds were transferred to the AF and likely a lot were put into storage till they decided what to do with them... I would want a better source (in both cases... wiki and this British source) before I considered these numbers concrete.

    They have committed to upgrading at least 30 to Tu-22M3M standard by 2020.


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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:57 pm

    What I am interested in is approach speed, and if it is faster than Kh-22.
    AFAIK they talked about double range and double speed for the Kh-32 over the Kh-22M.

    Launching two missiles... note how little smoke there is...



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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:12 am

    What smoke?
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:17 pm

    Tu-22M3 with Kh-32

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    Post  Viktor on Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:05 pm

    Implications of placing Tu-22M3/Kh-32 combo on Crimea peninsula and interesting info about Kh-32

    In development is the Kh-32, which is expected to be able to hit targets at distances up to 1000 km with great accuracy. By 2020, 30 Tu-22M3 must be upgraded to version Tu-22M3M and it will be armed with these missiles.

    Accommodation Tu-22M3 in the Crimea - a severe blow to Putin's European missile defense system



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    Implications of placing Tu-22M3/Kh-32 combo on Crimea peninsula and interesting info about Kh-32

    Post  diabetus on Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:40 pm

    Viktor wrote:Implications of placing Tu-22M3/Kh-32 combo on Crimea peninsula and interesting info about Kh-32

    In development is the Kh-32, which is expected to be able to hit targets at distances up to 1000 km with great accuracy. By 2020, 30 Tu-22M3 must be upgraded to version Tu-22M3M and it will be armed with these missiles.





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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:58 pm

    Speeding up the modernization plan for strategic fleet  thumbsup 

    Russian Armed Forces to get 10 modernized strategic bombers by yearend
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:03 pm

    Viktor wrote:Speeding up the modernization plan for strategic fleet  thumbsup 

    Russian Armed Forces to get 10 modernized strategic bombers by yearend

    10-12 aircrafts per year means that they can go for more than 30 Tu-22M3Ms
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:21 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Speeding up the modernization plan for strategic fleet  thumbsup 

    Russian Armed Forces to get 10 modernized strategic bombers by yearend

    10-12 aircrafts per year means that they can go for more than 30 Tu-22M3Ms

    Exactly. Basically the same situation as with MiG-31 modernization.


    Anyway firsts modernized Tu-22M3 being delivered to Russian Air Force  thumbsup 

    Russia brings in service modernized long-range bomber Tu-22M3

    Who can tell a few words about this modernization?
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  mack8 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:30 pm

    Viktor wrote:Speeding up the modernization plan for strategic fleet  thumbsup 

    Russian Armed Forces to get 10 modernized strategic bombers by yearend

    Shoigu's visit at KAPO from last week:
    http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/260343

    So what are those, Tu-22M3 with SVP-24-22 or full Tu-22M3M (Novella radar, new H-32 missiles etc etc.)? The 10-12 aircraft p.a. includes the Tu-160 too i presume?

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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:48 am

    The Tu-22M3M is not considered a strategic aircraft... unless they have reinstalled the inflight refuelling probes...

    The strategic aircraft getting upgrades are Tu-95MSM and Tu-160M.


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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:41 am

    mack8 wrote:So what are those, Tu-22M3 with SVP-24-22 or full Tu-22M3M (Novella radar, new H-32 missiles etc etc.)? The 10-12 aircraft p.a. includes the Tu-160 too i presume?


    There's not much details given. I would guess a general overhaul, SVP-24 and H-32 capability....apparently they used the new material (see video) in place of aluminium in some places
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:56 am

    Some info on the Kh-32 compared to it's predecessors (versions of the Kh-22).

    It's got almost the same dimensions, with increased range of 600km and increased max speed of 5400km/h

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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:45 am

    Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:05 am

    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:10 am

    Details on Tu-22M3M Upgrade

    Combat Aircraft Monthly July /Piotr Butowski ,snippets of the upgrade from the article "Backfire To The Future" Piotr Butowski 

    Tu-22M3M-1
    Tu-22M3M-2
    Tu-22M3M-3
    Tu-22M3M-4

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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:14 am

    Note Kh-32 Range has almost double of Kh-22 variant and flies higher at 42 Km Altitude.

    Range of Kh-32 is around 800 Km

    For Tu-22M3M three new weapons are under development.

    Kh-32M  ( modernised variant of Kh-32 )
    Kh-SD ( Subsonic Stealthy 2000 km range missile )
    Kh-MT ( Supersonic Ramjet 1000 km Range missile )


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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:14 am

    Austin wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

    But the approach speed (terminal phase) is sub Mach 2 IIRC?

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:31 am

    TR1 wrote:
    Austin wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

    But the approach speed (terminal phase) is sub Mach 2 IIRC?
     No its Mach 4 , How can approach speed be lower in dive trajectory ?

    Since they are liquid fuel engine their thrust can be throttled so it uses max thrust to gain altitude , throttles it during cruise and again goes for max thrust during dive.

    Thats the advantage of using liquid fuel engine

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:32 am

    Details on Tu-22M3M Upgrade

    Combat Aircraft Monthly July /Piotr Butowski ,snippets of the upgrade from the article "Backfire To The Future" Piotr Butowski 

    Tu-22M3M-1
    Tu-22M3M-2
    Tu-22M3M-3
    Tu-22M3M-4

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