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    Post  ATLASCUB on Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:46 am

    China has the pocket books to rival the U.S in influence campaigns when in comes to the bribery of elites and supporting political organizations abroad. China just simply doesn't have the apparatus in place to carry this nor the know how. You can see them timidly playing the board. It takes time, AND A LOT practice to create the machinery the U.S has to carry these. Which is why, the more wet their feet get in these games, the better for them. That's my opinion. Lessons can be learned, mistakes can be corrected, new strategies can be deployed. Hand off approach teaches very little. Field experience is needed.

    The success of the new Argentina will be severely tied to Brazil and Lula's return, as so will Venezuela's. The new Mexican government, while finally a win in a century there, will not be able to dramatically change that country. It's almost beyond repair. No matter how much quality advice they get from Russia or Cuba to set up safeguards. Giving Evo asylum is a nice insult to the empire (which I'm sure they took note, angrily, quietly - despite playing into their designs well), but then again Trump has been insulting Mexicans even before he became president. Hell, almost the whole existence of the Western half of the United States is an insult to Mexico.

    Anyway the empire knows how big Lula being free is. Which is why they were shitting their pants about Macri getting canned - the poor Bushes - that was a bad day for them. They know about the intra-elite fighting in Brazil. Still, they'll take the raping of Argentina any day over good governance. "Fuck them - that's what we do". "At least they'll have a real mess to sort out first." "Enough time to plot and recoup".

    I won't be surprised if they try to squeeze their assets in Brazil and send a message. If push comes to shove I can see them taking Lula out - point blank. Message should be clear to the sellout elite that supports U.S interest: "Lula back in the pen or we'll do what we must". If I were them I would do the same. If Lula gets back into power, there will be a real fight for the region in their hands. Lula and clan will not forget the U.S and "like-minded comprador elites" literally carried out, in effect, 2 coups back2back in Brazil. They certainly won't forgive the U.S, even if the treacherous elites come to a peace agreement with Lula (as they always do in most cases).

    Not to mention....after all the U.S has pulled to push back the Pink tide - boy there is some bad blood there. So my take? The U.S is not gonna sit and watch Lula, the Kitcher clan, Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela start to gang up in a Pink tide 2.0 with Russia and China backing them with trade, investment and geopolitical maneuvering. Not on their watch they say... not without having their bloody say first. The empire is itself overstretched which is why it's playing dirty so blatantly. Too many battlegrounds to care about the subtleties - what matters is that the fights are won. We'll see.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:05 am

    Bolivia’s interim president signs law on new presidential elections

    https://tass.com/world/1092257
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    Post  Aristide on Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:59 pm

    I was in Peru / Bolivia in 2017. Morales was extremly unpopular in the educated classes. Our guide who ws a teacehr told us constantly how idiotic Morales is. She showed us some of his crazy prjects.

    For example placing a ugly concrete tower right next to the central cathedral

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    She told us Morales wasted gargantuan amounts of money for his villas and paying corrupted officials. I assume what she said was right.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:59 pm

    Aristide wrote:I was in Peru / Bolivia in 2017. Morales was extremly unpopular in the educated classes. Our guide who ws a teacehr told us constantly how idiotic Morales is. She showed us some of his crazy prjects.

    For example placing a ugly concrete tower right next to the central cathedral

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    She told us Morales wasted gargantuan amounts of money for his villas and paying corrupted officials. I assume what she said was right.

    Why should the indigenous majority in Bolivia give a flying f*k about some Catholic church. The Popes declared new world aboriginals
    to be animals without souls and thereby enabled centuries of slavery, mutilation and mass murder. I say hurray for the "commie block"
    "spoiling" some tourist's cheap photos. Maybe if Morales had the church bulldozed and then built an apartment block in its place,
    you would have something to bitch about.

    As for corruption. Wow. Some malcontent is making claims, so they must be true. That you believe in the word of a racist
    clique minority that has dominated Bolivia from the beginning says a lot about your values. But then EU-peons are basically closet
    Nazis to begin with. Every single day they affirm this in their hate spew at and treatment of Russians.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:38 am

    If land is expensive, there will be multistory buildings, regardless of old churches.
    These r in New York & Boston, USA:
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    Post  PhSt on Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:18 am




    Bolivia's electoral body blocks Morales from running for Senate

    https://tass.com/world/1122711



    BOLIVIA: Blocks Morales from running for elections,

    USA: We respect Bolivia's democratic processes and our shared democratic values and traditions.




    RUSSIA: Blocks Navalny from running for elections,

    USA: Russia is a Corrupt Pariah country that is run by the Mafia.


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    Post  slasher on Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:08 am

    Study casting doubt on Bolivian election fraud triggers controversy
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    Post  kvs on Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:02 am

    slasher wrote:Study casting doubt on Bolivian election fraud triggers controversy

    Funny how the OAS politician echo-chamber is calling an MIT study "unscientific". Time to get out and burn some more witches at the stake.
    Science is the work of the Devil.

    Latin America will always be pulled down into the toilet if it can't accept rules of behaviour. Just because your political opponents win the
    election does not give you the right to stage a coup. If you don't play by any rules, then you can't expect your opponents to play by
    them either.

    It is physically impossible in a real democracy for the racist Bolivian clique to win the popular vote. They failed to genocide enough of
    the aboriginals so the indigenous majority has to win under fair conditions. Accusing Morales of fraud is a transparent lie. He does not
    need any electoral fraud. And his indigenous base knows who is better for their interests. And it ain't the Washington backed
    "whiteys".
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    Post  andalusia Yesterday at 10:21 am

    kvs wrote:
    slasher wrote:Study casting doubt on Bolivian election fraud triggers controversy

    Funny how the OAS politician echo-chamber is calling an MIT study "unscientific".   Time to get out and burn some more witches at the stake.  
    Science is the work of the Devil.

    Latin America will always be pulled down into the toilet if it can't accept rules of behaviour.   Just because your political opponents win the
    election does not give you the right to stage a coup.   If you don't play by any rules, then you can't expect your opponents to play by
    them either.

    It is physically impossible in a real democracy for the racist Bolivian clique to win the popular vote.   They failed to genocide enough of
    the aboriginals so the indigenous majority has to win under fair conditions.   Accusing Morales of fraud is a transparent lie.   He does not
    need any electoral fraud.   And his indigenous base knows who is better for their interests.   And it ain't the Washington backed
    "whiteys".  

    Corrupt Spanish governmental Culture combined with CIA meddling has hurt Latin American prosperity and stability: https://www.globalresearch.ca/bolivia-anatomy-cia-coup/5704575
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    Post  GarryB Yesterday at 2:10 pm

    Corrupt Spanish governmental Culture combined with CIA meddling has hurt Latin American prosperity and stability

    You can't blame Spain for this... this is all about the US promoting peace and democracy in its own back yard... the fact that it was the CIA proves US responsibility...

    American politicians will tell you it is RT and Sputnik trying to make the west look bad... all they have to do is expose the truth because the truth will show the world who is bad... and it ain't just Michael Jackson... and Weird Al Yankovich.

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