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    The Future of Syria in terms of how it will be governed

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    Post  nomadski Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:41 pm

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.hurriyetdailynews.com/amp/opinion/serkan-demirtas/astana-partners-should-focus-on-political-transition-in-syria-146348

    Russia can help democracy in Syria. Political help. But who should write constitution?  A murderer?  Someone with no education?  Some foreigners from America? Someone without a name?  Someone from armed group?  Someone without political party? Someone only from political party?  Someone from religious party? Someone without religion? Someone with PhD?

    I would welcome a new topic if allowed by admin. A resource. Members can also put suggestions.  Mods please make new topic if you think it will help.

    I will give a wild suggestion. Not like me, is it?  We have all seen the start of it. The new age. The age of instant communication. The Internet. The city of souls. The city of God. It has already happened. It just needs to be formalised and made secure. Government by Internet. Government by mobile phone. Replace Facebook and twitter. True direct democracy by the people. No political parties necessary. No Parliament building necessary. No professional politicians necessary. Laws made or unmade by people. Huawei give Syrian people 30 million mobile phones. With special software. Syrians all over world make laws. Write constitution......Remember the Arab spring started with mobile phone. But since it was not software organised, it led to Arab winter. Software...............
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:20 am

    Most people don't give a shit or perhaps don't even know anything about laws... you will get people who vote based on one or to things they are interested in... actually having the whole country vote is a bad idea.... first of all because most people wont bother even reading anything about what is being voted for, and others will vote for things they are interested in but wont bother voting about anything else.

    For instance a woman might march for pay equality for women, so for laws involving womens rights you could probably expect them to vote on laws regarding such things, but will she also vote for other things like minority issues or racial issues they they don't effect her?

    Of course she wont.... so in effect the main people who will be voting for things will be the people directly effected by those things one way or another... is that democracy?

    When 20% of the population vote for a law should it still be a law?

    What if 20% of the population vote on an issue... say 12% one way and 8% the other way... should that law go in to effect because we can assume no body else cares?

    If you have thresholds... what if two thirds of the population are elderly and don't know and don't want to know how to vote...

    Plus... being totally digital... what about Russian hackers... which of course is a front for US hackers pretending to be Russian hackers?

    I think it would be a good idea to have a public forum where people could openly debate options and ideas, but I don't think putting your entire electoral system is a good idea let alone your entire political system.
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    Post  nomadski Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:26 am

    Agree that people may not vote on all issues. Or not vote at all. Or they may not know about some issues. Or they may be too young or old. All these problems are technical problems that have technical answers. These can be addressed by the right software and hardware.

    At the core, the system sub - skeleton can be normal paper ballot box system. For countries without infrastructure or low education level. The difference, in this case, is that this paper system can be designed to be upgraded to paperless system, for more advanced country using a bank or ID card to cast vote. For even  more developed nation that has full Internet,  mobile phone can be used to cast votes.

    In cases where the population does not vote, because of lack of interest or education or war, then normal politics takes over. In other words for some countries, a parallel system set up. If on any issue, the public cast vote in sufficient numbers, then it takes precedence over parliamentary votes.

    The problem of security is real. But people use Internet now for banking and buying food and even arranging medical care. So why not politics? But to make sure no problems come up, parralel secondary redundant system can be set up. In case system collapses or is hacked. Secondary redundant politicians..... I like that!

    Professional politicians may ultimately not exist. This I find very attractive. Since I hate them all. They may be replaced by civil servants who keep the Internet secure and pay programmers to maintain it. Already some Internet sites use algorithms that push topics to the top. Likes or dislikes. Number of hits, etc. These can turn into actual votes on laws.

    Other media can exist, to allow communication. Including sites for political discussions. Papers. TV. Etc. But the actual voting on individual laws is automated by Internet. Cyber world government by the people!
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:38 pm

    Agree that people may not vote on all issues. Or not vote at all. Or they may not know about some issues. Or they may be too young or old. All these problems are technical problems that have technical answers. These can be addressed by the right software and hardware.

    You are missing the point... When was the last time a company had a vote to decide the future of the company?

    Not being snobbish, but most people have got no real idea what they want or the consequences.... some like a social system where everyone is protected... everyone gets access to education and healthcare and a justice system that protects them, others might think minimal government and personal responsibility... from socialism where education and healthcare and the justice system are all state run, to private police and privately owned and run prisons... the latter basically being a modern form of slave labour that you can make a lot of money from... if you can keep your "workforce".

    No two people will agree on everything... so 60 million people means 60 million different opinions and attempts to have their say... it will never work... and to be honest is even more open to hacking and corruption than the existing systems.

    The first time a "vote" does not go the way of the ruling party, they will likely declare it as being an advisory referendum that is not binding and that other considerations that they cannot make public for national security reasons they will have to go the other way... and it will all be for nothing.

    When they do that a few times most people will lose interest... and the vast majority of topics wont be interested in the first place anyway.
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    Post  nomadski Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:29 pm

    https://www.internetgovernment.org/

    I found this site. Today a five year old knows more than the sages of old. Information is supplied to explain a political position. If this position becomes popular, by number of supports,  then it goes before public vote. The reason some companies are limited by voting is controlled by company law. We can change the law to give everyone a direct vote. I think it can be done. Political parties can still function. But voting is singular and based on individual. People can still vote along party lines. But everybody votes. Like having referendum on every law. I think it will work.

    I do not agree with this site rejecting rule of majority and replacing with " meritocracy". But idea of Internet government by the people is good. Politics becomes everyone's business and nobody's business.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:13 pm

    Should this rather esoteric discussion be in this thread?
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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:16 am

    What I am trying to say is that ruling a country by majority vote only makes sense sometimes.

    Do you think people should be allowed to walk around in public naked?

    That should not be something decided for us... we as a society need to decide about our own morality and what we find acceptable or not acceptable.

    The complexities of property law... it is probably a bad idea to decide it via a general vote.

    Corruption comes from a government getting advisors from big powerful companies that dominate the market and want to use new laws to enhance their monopoly.

    Governments need advice in specialist subjects but they also need diversity... they need to hear from a minimum of 5 separate unrelated companies... big ones and small ones and medium sized ones so they get a more balanced idea of what needs to be put in place to be fair so that the big companies don't just destroy the small and medium ones.

    Most justice systems also need complete overhauls as they are currently about winning and losing and not about getting to the truth and justice for the victim and the accused. These days in most countries it comes down to how competent the police were in their investigation, and whether you can afford a lawyer that can find their mistakes and get you off.... whether you did it or not... the prosecution doens't care... their job is to get a guilty verdict.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:42 am

    Agree that majority rule only makes sense sometimes. But people have a right to be wrong. That is how they learn. It is far better to let them learn, than to teach them.

    Yes some laws are complex. And changing them has far reaching consequences. But as long as their application is time limited, then they could be reversed, or stopped, before causing irreversible damages. New laws could all be time limited.

    Corruption comes from the evil nature of humanity. It can actualize given the potential opportunity. At least this system of direct voting , removes the potential to misrepresent the interests of others.

    If the interests of a particular class or group are sacrificed to the will of the majority, then  a greater majority can reverse these laws. Such as international laws superceding national laws to protect interests of minority.

    How will the state wither away? When there is no need for specialist workers in statecraft. When there are no politicians or judges or police.  When everyone is the judge and jury and executioner.  The idea of public governance can be extended to the judges and police. We know that a jury is often needed to pass judgement. How about a jury of thousands? On the Internet? Also the public can make citizen's arrest. How about all citizen's having more powers of arrest? How will the future be?

    Why should ever greater majorities with a direct vote, account for a better world? Protection of rights of minorities? If there is evil in all? The answer is that God could have created a world without evil. A perfect world. But a static world. Without motion or change. And God could have created a world of absolute evil. But God created a world of some evil. Or necessary evil. This allowed for a world that achieved perfection and progress. And this it seems was the better world than the others.

    So if evil takes root in some country or society, then this evil can only be limited in scope. A greater majority will outnumber this limited evil and overcome it. That is why greater majority is better and will work.
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    Post  Kiko Thu May 27, 2021 10:58 pm

    Syrian presidential election: Bashar el-Assad re-elected with 95,1% of the votes for a seven year term. May 27, 2021.

    https://fr.sputniknews.com/moyen-orient/202105271045662244-presidentielle-syrienne-bachar-el-assad-reelu-avec-951-des-voix/

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    Post  Backman Fri May 28, 2021 2:31 am

    Big rally in Tartus for Assad. Assad has exemplified the will to survive by the whole country. He is holding Syria together. Without him , it would be like Iraq today. No leadership. No identity. No cohesion. A hopeless disaster of a nation.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri May 28, 2021 6:53 pm

    1. Assad will retain control of areas he has

    2. Turkey will by proxies retain control over all occupied Syrian territories.

    3. Kurds will keep control over territories long as the Russians shield them from the turks up north. If the Russians stop, the turks will grab more of the upper northern Syrian territories and annex those.

    4. Syria will never be a whole country ever again.
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    Post  Kiko Fri May 28, 2021 9:48 pm

    Syria’s Victory Stuns NATO Enemies, by Finian Cunningham for Sputniknews. May 28, 2021.

    Syria’s presidential elections this week were a resounding success against a backdrop of 10 years of brutal, relentless war imposed on the Arab country by the United States and its NATO partners.

    After a decade-long torment from terrorist mercenaries deployed covertly by the Western powers, as well as overt aggression from NATO military forces illegally attacking the country and from cruel economic sanctions warfare, the people of Syria remain defiant and independent.

    President Bashar al-Assad was re-elected for a fourth seven-year term after winning 95 percent of votes cast. The achievement is stunning. It completely refutes – indeed makes a mockery of – the Western narrative depicting Assad as a “tyrant”.

    Despite all the grueling hardships, the Syrian people turned out in droves to vote on Thursday. The turnout was over 78 percent with more than 14 million votes cast out of an eligible 18 million electorate.

    There is no way the Western governments and their servile corporate media can spin this epic demonstration of popular defiance to their nefarious intrigues for regime change in Syria. Hence, the total silence among Western media about the election result. That silence is at once hilarious and damning of Western guilt over the real nature of the war in Syria.

    It was always a foreign war of criminal aggression. If there was any justice prevailing in this world, Western politicians by the dozens should be tried for war crimes.

    Before the election this week, the United States, Britain, France, and other NATO powers tried to smear the Syrian democratic will, labeling the ballot as neither fair nor free.

    Well, the sheer numbers of people turning out to vote and the subsequent scenes of jubilation across Syria tell another story, one that confounds the Western propaganda and exposes the criminality of the NATO powers and their toxic media.

    The Syrian nation has refused to bow after years of NATO-backed terrorism in their country. They have chosen their president – again.

    The same kind of shameful silence in Western media has been seen numerous times before when the Syrian army liberated towns and villages from Western-backed terrorists. When people came out to greet their Syrian army liberators, the Western media simply ignored the reality despite having told their consumers beforehand that the Syrian army and their Russian allies were committing slaughter against “rebels” and civilian populations.

    Not one Western mainstream media outlet has followed up to report on how Syrians feel about being liberated and of having their peaceful lives restored. That’s because Syrians would praise the leadership of Assad, the courage of the army, and the crucial help of Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. In other words, the West’s lies would be demolished by the truth, and so their media are compelled to ignore and keep silent.

    For everyone around the world who desires justice and peace and the defeat of imperialism, the victory from Syria’s election is a glorious day to celebrate. Congratulations are due to President Assad. But more so to the people of Syria who showed that it is possible to stand up to the real tyranny, that of the United States and its lawless NATO rogue allies who wanted to destroy Syria in order to install their own puppet regime. Despite unspeakable barbarities inflicted on the peace-loving people of Syria, they have remained steadfast in their unity and determination for independence, regardless of their different religions. The NATO ploy of trying to incite a sectarian war among Syrians failed because they knew all along who their real enemy was.

    For those willing to see reality, Syria exposes the forces of evil in this world. The Western lying media tell us that Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, and so on, are “bad” and are threatening global peace. The Americans and their NATO partners lecture and pontificate about “rules and order”. When it is they who are caught in the headlights of truth: they tried to destroy a country just like they have countless others. But that country – Syria – just showed its spectacular strength to overcome the evil designs of the United States and its minions in NATO.

    Lamentably, Syria faces more trials and challenges from the continuing economic warfare being waged by US and European sanctions. Reconstruction from a decade of NATO aggression will not be easy. But with the help of Russia, China, Iran, and others, the Syrian people will win finally. They have just shown their invincible resilience beyond any doubt.

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/202105281083021828-syrias-victory-stuns-nato-enemies/

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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 29, 2021 12:58 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:1. Assad will retain control of areas he has

    2. Turkey will by proxies retain control over all occupied Syrian territories.

    3. Kurds will keep control over territories long as the Russians shield them from the turks up north. If the Russians stop, the turks will grab more of the upper northern Syrian territories and annex those.

    4. Syria will never be a whole country ever again.

    1. Of course. There is no conceivable threat to what he currently controls

    2. To what end? Turkey's end game is not to sit there forever, nor is it to have broken relations with their neighbour forever, when they understand perfectly well that Assad isn't going anywhere any time soon. They will simply use the current holdings as leverage, whether it's through the constitutional changes mechanism and Astana process, or through Russia-Turkey dealing directly in a bid to get Turkish forces to withdraw.

    3. The Kurds are the weakest party here and already there are protests organized by Assad supporters periodically in their core territory. This band of contras, although they have local legitimacy - cannot keep power indefinitely. Assad's authority has now been now reaffirmed for all to see and the Turks are not going nowhere either, and in fact exerting serious pressure on the US to cease supporting the Kurds. They will eventually either enter into serious negotiations with Damascus and agree to partially demobilize and the return of central control in return for limited autonomy, or they will be sold back into Damascus' service as part of a US-Russian settlement over Syria, which may come about further on from Putin-Biden talks in Geneva

    4. See no. 2 and no. 3. Assad, controlling most of the country and backed by Putin, has a much stronger hand than either of his two rivals. He can afford to play the waiting game, side with one against the other, or just let Putin do his thing with Erdogan and Biden.
    The main weakness that Syria has at the moment are the western sanctions which have thus far prevented its economy from recovering. The Kurds still control the oil, as well as some of the most productive agricultural land.
    But this problem can be managed as well, particularly if Assad reestablishes relations successfully with more states that supported his enemies, and also potentially by embracing China and guaranteeing the safety of its investments.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun May 30, 2021 4:02 pm

    And what do you know.. Cool

    https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/24611-US-weighs-oil-for-aid-bargain-with-Russia-in-northeast-Syria


    US weighs oil for aid bargain with Russia in northeast Syria
    Biden’s ending of a license for Delta Crescent Energy company would open the door for Russian domination of Syrian oil author_image Hisham Arafat, Joanne Stocker-Kelly
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    By Hisham Arafat and Joanne Stocker-Kelly

    QAMISHLO and ERBIL (Kurdistan 24) – The Biden administration’s apparent decision to pull a license for a US company to operate in oil fields in northeast Syria is grounded in the hope that it can negotiate with Moscow on two key aid channels into the country in exchange for pulling out of the oil fields, sources have told Kurdistan 24.

    Two sources in the northeast Syrian city of Qamishlo familiar with the contract said Russian oil companies are already contracted to work in Syria and are looking to move into the area that would be operated by Delta Crescent Energy, an American company licensed to operate in the northeast under an Obama-era policy. The sources requested not to be named in order to discuss sensitive agreements.

    The decision not to renew the license – which is legally required for an American company doing business in Syria – was first reported by Al-Monitor on May 21.

    DCE was formed in 2019 by a retired Delta Force Army officer, Lt. Col. James Reese, along with an ex-ambassador to Denmark, James Cain, and John Dorrier, an industry veteran and former chief executive of UK-based Gulfsands Petroleum Plc.

    The company applied for the Syria license in 2019. It was granted in 2020, when Donald Trump was president, and first publicly revealed in a Senate hearing in July that year.

    A DCE source told Kurdistan 24 on Friday that “the OFAC license was extended on 29 April 2021 to 31 May 2021,” referring to the US Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control. “We are waiting on confirmation the license has been renewed for a period of 1-2 years,” the source said. “We have received no ‘wind down’ notice from OFAC or the State Department.”

    A spokesperson for the US Department of State declined to comment "on whether private companies have authorizations or licenses." The Treasury Department did not respond to a request for clarification on DCE’s current status.

    Despite announcing the withdrawal of US forces from Syria in October 2019, Trump in the end left a few hundred troops in northeast Syria “where they have the oil” to prevent ISIS from retaking oil fields and the Assad government and its ally Iran from profiting from energy sales.

    “My understanding is that the decision has not been finalized but that at the highest level of the Biden team they are unhappy with the ‘take the oil’ optics of what they view as a Trumpian resource grab in Syria that is off-brand for Biden's foreign policy messaging,” said Nicholas Heras, a Senior Analyst and Program Head for State Resilience and Fragility at the Newlines Institute in Washington, DC.

    “There is a chance the waiver gets extended for a month to allow the Syria policy review to finish up,” Heras told Kurdistan 24 on Thursday.

    Some Russian companies have been contracted to work in Syrian oil fields since the 1990s under deals with the Syrian government, the sources in Qamishlo said.

    Those contracts haven’t expired, and Moscow is looking to move into oil fields in territory partly run by the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria, the civil administration tied to the Syrian Democratic Forces.

    “An American company cannot operate there for risk of being sued,” one source in Qamishlo said, as the Biden administration does not want to confront Moscow or face an international lawsuit.

    The DCE source said the area had been abandoned by the Syrian regime early in the civil conflict and local people were left to defend the area against ISIS.

    “DCE has contracts in place in Rojava that cover oil and gas trading and marketing internationally, field redevelopment and refining. These contracts contain exclusivity for the contracts. We are not aware of any current Russian contracts for these activities,” they said.

    Disputing reports that the company has done no practical work in the country, the source said “DCE has begun some physical operations with installation of some production related equipment in April 2021. Production of fields has been ongoing for years, without DCE’s involvement.”

    One of the Qamishlo sources identified the Russian companies with contracts in the country as Mercury LLC and Velada LLC. Both were reportedly awarded Syrian government contracts for oil exploration in three blocs in 2019, including one oilfield in the northeast. One field in bloc 7, awarded to Mercury LLC, covers an area of 9,531 square kilometers.

    Mercury and Velada have ties to a man known as "Putin's chef" – Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and whom the US indicted in 2018 over his alleged involvement in Moscow’s meddling in the 2016 US presidential elections.

    Prigozhin himself is widely accepted to be the man behind the Russian paramilitary company PMC Wagner Group, whose mercenaries were killed by the hundreds in a US airstrike near the Conoco gas field in SDF-controlled Deir al-Zor in 2018.

    A third Russian company, TATNEFT, was awarded a Syrian government contract in 2005 to operate in the whole of the country. Although it suspended operations in 2011, citing the war, its chairman told Russian state media last year that the company is examining a return to exploration in Syria. The company did not respond to Kurdistan 24’s request for comment ahead of publication. A spokesperson for Mercury LLC could not be reached.

    If DCE, the only American company with an OFAC license in Syria, is forced to leave it could open the door to Russian dominance over Syria’s oil sector.

    The DCE source explained that the company has “no unilateral operations” in northeast Syria and is in fact “subordinate to the Jazeera Oil Company, the national oil company of Rojava,” the area of northeast Syria under Kurdish control.

    “Under a Production Sharing Contract with DCE, the day-to-day operations of the field development and production come under supervision of a Joint Operating Company that is managed by both parties,” they said.

    “This structure is embedded in every Production Sharing Contract in Syria, so this operation would work very much like every other operation in the country that involves foreign company operators.”

    Unlike Russian companies that bring in their own personnel when they operate abroad, the DCE contact uses “the current JOC subject matter experts, local labor and local companies to the maximum extent possible,” the company source said.

    “Simply put, this promotes local economy and capacity growth, both of which we support. Our OFAC license submission stated our mission in [northeast Syria] is to provide advice and assistance to our partners here.”

    Humanitarian Aid Calculation

    The sources in Qamishlo who spoke to Kurdistan 24 said the Biden administration was incentivized to keep Russia happy to prevent Moscow from using its UN Security Council veto on two critical border crossings between Iraq and Syria. They further speculated on a possible agreement between the White House and the Kremlin that the US would stop work on the oil field in exchange for Russia agreeing to allow UN aid to flow.

    “The Biden team is trying to find ways to make the stabilization effort in northeast Syria a project that comes at reduced cost and time investment to the United States,” Heras said.

    “The administration does not want to leave northeast Syria but their goal is to be able to bring into the SDF Zone more support from government and nongovernmental international partners,” he added.

    The Yarubiyah border point between Rabia in Iraq and far northeast Syria was one of the few routes that allowed aid to reach Syrians outside Bashar al-Assad’s control as cross-border aid doesn’t require approval from Damascus.
    Map showing the scope of the UN OCHA cross-border response in Syria as of April 2021 with the border crossings from Iraq and Turkey marked. (Image: OCHA) Map showing the scope of the UN OCHA cross-border response in Syria as of April 2021 with the border crossings from Iraq and Turkey marked. (Image: OCHA)

    The UN Security Council first approved Yarubiyah in 2014, and it was mainly used for medical supplies until Russia and China used their Security Council veto power to force its closure last summer. The UN warned that the failure to reopen Yarubiyah would hamper the fight against COVID-19 in Kurdish-controlled northeast Syria.

    “The Biden team sees opening Yaroubiyah crossing and allowing the UN to get involved in a big way in northeast Syria as potentially being the most important goal they can achieve for both the counter-ISIS mission and the longterm well-being of their closest Syrian partners the SDF,” Heras said.

    “Cross-line” humanitarian aid – that which travels from government territory to the Kurdish-controlled northeast or rebel-held northwest – is routed first through Damascus, and the autonomous administration regularly accuses the Syrian government of failing to deliver supplies, including coronavirus test kits and vaccines.

    US-based Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft reported on Wednesday that the American delegation “had specifically brought up the re-opening of Yarubiyah along with the oil” during its recent trip to northeast Syria. The European Commission is also planning to allocate millions in aid to the Kurdish-led administration, according to the Brussels Times, but without a clear plan on how to get it into the region while Yarubiyah remains off-limits.

    “The Biden folks seem to believe that Yaroubiyah could be the wheel that turns a large, sustainable, and multinational stabilization project in northeast Syria, at a lower cost to American taxpayers,” said Heras.

    A second crossing from Turkey into rebel-held Idlib province is also now at risk as its mandate is set to expire in July. The Bab al-Hawa border point is one of the only lifelines into beleaguered northwest Syria where the UN says some 60 percent of people are food insecure, but Russia and Syria have both argued that aid can be delivered cross-line.

    Al Monitor reported that Joey Hood, the acting assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, recently told the northeast Syria administration that the US would resume stabilization assistance ended by the Trump government, and that about $50 million has been released so far.

    But that may not mitigate the financial blow of the failure of the deal with DCE if the license is revoked as the Kurdish-led administration is heavily dependent on oil revenue and the deal is worth billions of dollars.

    Both the US State Department and Pentagon have been eager to help improve production and mitigate the toxic environmental impact of oil facilities that have largely not been maintained since the start of the Syrian conflict in 2011, and, in some cases, heavily damaged by ISIS.

    DCE, too, has stressed the importance of repairing the ravaged oil infrastructure.

    “Our plan will help the AANES rebuild damaged infrastructure like this, a tank blown up by Daesh,” the company tweeted earlier this week after the Al Monitor story broke. “If NES policy changes & American companies are not allowed to invest alongside local companies to restore energy industry, do we think they aren't going to look for other options?”

    With the oil fields, Assad will be strengthened further

    The US will keep their influence over north-east Syria for now, but Assad still wins as he now will have something he didn't before, while the US will have to pay for the SDF more out of its own pocket.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:48 pm

    This will help the Government

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    According to a new regulation by the US Treasury, important COVID-19 medication & services will be able to be delivered to Syria despite existing sanctions. It is likely this decision came as a result of the Putin-Biden meeting.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:46 am

    According to a new regulation by the US Treasury, important COVID-19 medication & services will be able to be delivered to Syria despite existing sanctions. It is likely this decision came as a result of the Putin-Biden meeting.

    Unless it is bullshit, like claims they are not blocking medicine to places like Iran or Venezuela when they quite clearly are... ie one part of the US government saying one thing but the part that controls the sanctions doing another...
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    Post  Sprut-B Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:12 pm

    Syria's future is in the right hands.

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