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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:25 pm

    Its outstanding how Houthis resist against so many forces from S.Arabia-Gulf countries
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    Post  medo on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:49 pm

    https://twitter.com/Almasirah_Live/status/1178278692432285697

    Houties report from Almasirah. What is more striking is fact, that there was no support from Saudi air force. When everything is over and they already surrender, you could see saudi F-15, who drop few bombs. What are they afraid of? Houti air defense, which have only few SAM-2 and SAM-6? Epic failure for KSA.
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    Post  starman on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:51 pm

    George1 wrote:Its outstanding how Houthis resist against so many forces from S.Arabia-Gulf countries

    Effective Yemeni resistance is nothing new. Referring to Egypt's failure there in the '60s one author wrote that if "Nasser had consulted the Turks, he'd have learned that Yemen was the cemetery for thousands of their soldiers."
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    Post  starman on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:56 pm

    medo wrote:Great victory for Houties. Congratulations. cheers  Saudi army is becoming epic disaster...

    I just love these Houthi victories. Very Happy Coupled with other saudi embarrassments, they might have far reaching consequences. If the saudi leadership is now perceived as inept and a failure, inevitably people will get ideas.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:33 pm

    Such a delicious irony...the Saudi-Mights are suffering their own Afghan War, but with significantly worse results!  Embarassed Razz lol1
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    Post  yavar on Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:52 pm

    Yemen Ansarullah, releases evidence footage captured over '2000 troops', inflict heavy casualties on Saudi army in Njran

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    Post  medo on Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:45 pm

    flamming_python wrote:What the Houthis really need to do is launch some missiles at the presidential palace. Of course, that would make a war in the Middle East pretty much inevitable.

    Impossible. There is nothing like presidential palace in Saudi Arabia. They could launch missiles only at the king's palace.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:29 pm

    medo wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:What the Houthis really need to do is launch some missiles at the presidential palace. Of course, that would make a war in the Middle East pretty much inevitable.

    Impossible. There is nothing like presidential palace in Saudi Arabia. They could launch missiles only at the king's palace.

    I think that is what he means.

    Generally, cut the head off the snake.

    Issue is, the Saudi's have a long standing history of killing or overthrowing each king by each cousin, son, uncle or whatever.
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    Post  crod on Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:14 pm

    How in the name of Christ do they honestly stand there and talk about being stronger than Iran. The latter would slaughter them in a conflict and doing so by proxy.

    I can only assume these killed/captured battalions were/are conscripts and not full time soldiers; question begs though, even if the case, the senior ranks amongst this number would be full time professional soldiers, what were they doing??? Holy fcuk. What a disaster for the ksa.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:50 pm

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:56 pm

    crod wrote:I can only assume these killed/captured battalions were/are conscripts and not full time soldiers; question begs though, even if the case, the senior ranks amongst this number would be full time professional soldiers, what were they doing??? Holy fcuk. What a disaster for the ksa

    A lot of them were apparently locally recruited militia (most are in civilian clothes), some mercenaries from the region and Pakistan. You can tell the Saudis are the ones in desert uniform
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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:58 pm

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    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:04 am

    i wonder whether there is public reaction in Saudi Arabia for the military losses
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    Post  Isos on Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:43 am

    crod wrote:How in the name of Christ do they honestly stand there and talk about being stronger than Iran. The latter would slaughter them in a conflict and doing so by proxy.

    Houtis are a guerilla, people with AKs in the desert. A bomb from a f-15 won't damage them because there is ONLY people wide spread accross the country to target.

    Iran is a country. Iran has lots of valuable targets for saudis and UAE like its nuclear facilities, fuel storage, weapon storage. One bomb from f15 will make huge damage if it falls on one of those targets.

    US aren't doing better in afghanistan against talibans but destroying the iraqi army and economy was a matter of days.

    You are confusing conventional war with astmetric war.
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    Post  crod on Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:34 am

    Isos wrote:
    crod wrote:How in the name of Christ do they honestly stand there and talk about being stronger than Iran. The latter would slaughter them in a conflict and doing so by proxy.

    Houtis are a guerilla, people with AKs in the desert. A bomb from a f-15 won't damage them because there is ONLY people wide spread accross the country to target.

    Iran is a country. Iran has lots of valuable targets for saudis and UAE like its nuclear facilities, fuel storage, weapon storage. One bomb from f15 will make huge damage if it falls on one of those targets.

    US aren't doing better in afghanistan against talibans but destroying the iraqi army and economy was a matter of days.

    You are confusing conventional war with astmetric war.

    Eh no, I am not. If the amount of troops killed or captured is accurate, it plainly shows that the military leadership was not able to 1) secure their bases with parameter defence (101 garrison stuff) and 2) just as equally frightening, no counter attack measures in place. Poor leadership. Therefore in a non asymmetrical war with Iran I doubt very much they’d do much better as they cannot seem to get the very basics right...how in the name of Christ do you think they’d muster up a cross border attack against a country with more professional soldiers and air defence capabilities?
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    Post  crod on Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:43 am

    With that amount of troops and hardware on the move, where was the air support from helicopters, drones or jets?

    Cray cray
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    Post  Isos on Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:18 am

    Therefore in a non asymmetrical war with Iran I doubt very much they’d do much better as they cannot seem to get the very basics right...how in the name of Christ do you think they’d muster up a cross border attack against a country with more professional soldiers and air defence capabilities?

    And how would Iran do that ? lol1

    Iran would have only its missiles to defend itself and its airdefence.

    We saw (the video is online) that their missile range is rather small because they needed to remove warheads for targets close to them. And their air defences will be overwhelmed and destroy by US.
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    Post  starman on Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:43 am

    George1 wrote:i wonder whether there is public reaction in Saudi Arabia for the military losses

    Apparently fearing such a reaction the saudis have just kept quiet about this... Laughing
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:06 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Therefore in a non asymmetrical war with Iran I doubt very much they’d do much better as they cannot seem to get the very basics right...how in the name of Christ do you think they’d muster up a cross border attack against a country with more professional soldiers and air defence capabilities?

    And how would Iran do that ? lol1

    Iran would have only its missiles to defend itself and its airdefence.

    We saw (the video is online) that their missile range is rather small because they needed to remove warheads for targets close to them. And their air defences will be overwhelmed and destroy by US.

    A lot of assumptions.....meanwhile in the real world...Iran seems to be running circles and slapping around the US's proxies.

    If there was going to be something serious undertaken against Iran we would be seeing a large build up of forces. Some limited operation won't cut it in this situation...so far at least, all we've seen is the usual hot air and chest beating
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    Post  crod on Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:14 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Therefore in a non asymmetrical war with Iran I doubt very much they’d do much better as they cannot seem to get the very basics right...how in the name of Christ do you think they’d muster up a cross border attack against a country with more professional soldiers and air defence capabilities?

    And how would Iran do that ? lol1

    Iran would have only its missiles to defend itself and its airdefence.

    We saw (the video is online) that their missile range is rather small because they needed to remove warheads for targets close to them. And their air defences will be overwhelmed and destroy by US.

    Who said anything about Iran invading KSA?? What are you talking about the US for?
    The point being made, is that ksa appear utterly incompetent at defending itself or its assets.
    They bang on about teaching Iran lessons, the point being made which you’re so obviously missing, is the ksa could do shit to Iran in a month of Sunday’s.
    I was not saying Iran invade ksa....read posts carefully and stop responding to comments not made.
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    Post  Isos on Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:25 pm

    A lot of assumptions.....meanwhile in the real world...Iran seems to be running circles and slapping around the US's proxies.

    Yes they are.

    But in a even more real world, they are destroyed by US sanctions while US proxies are getting richer and richer while Iran proxies are dying because they have nothing to eat.

    But they have cruise missiles and rockets ... ho and they control parts of Yemen. That will for sure save their people.
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    Post  nomadski on Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:44 pm


    It looks like Saudi ground troops have lost all morale. They obviously feel much safer in Yemen as POW than facing and fighting them. This performance proves that they can not operate military hardware efficiently. Are exposed to simple drone attacks. Against Iranian ground troops they have even less chance. That is why they want the Yanks to go and fight and die for them. But if they allow Yanks use of their bases for attack against Iran. Then the same sad fate awaits them. Better they stop the war.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:46 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    It looks like Saudi ground troops have lost all morale. They obviously feel much safer in Yemen as POW  than facing and fighting them. This performance proves that they can not operate military hardware efficiently. Are exposed to simple drone attacks. Against Iranian ground troops they have even less chance. That is why they want the Yanks to go and fight and die for them. But if they allow Yanks use of their bases for attack against Iran. Then the same sad fate awaits them. Better they stop the war.

    Saudi Arabia relies 100% on the yanquis to fight Iran. It is simply not able to fight Iran directly even with yanqui support in the rear.

    The Houthis are demonstrating what a joke the Saudis are. They have basically no soldiers of their own just like they have no workers
    of their own. Everything Saudi Arabia does is through imported quasi-slave labour. Saudi Arabia is a country that should not exist.
    It is a concoction of the British and now their yanqui successors.


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