Isos wrote:India has its own design of a similiar frigate but mire armed, the Shivalik frigate which uses every thing Grigorovitch uses but with additional israeli radars and barak 1 missiles. And they are buikd in India.
Yet they order more of Russian frigates which suggest that Shivalik sucks and their navy is unhappy with them.
Well, the shivalik are 20 m longer and have a much larger displacement (6200t full load).
From what I understand, the only advantage they have is that they can carry 2 helicopters instead of one.
Adding Israeli Barak missiles and radar probably just increase the complexity and incredibly the cost.
In addition Barak missiles are short range, so they do not offer much advantage vs Kashtan-M missiles that are present in several short range Russian missile/gun systems...
I am not sure, but maybe the problem is that taiwar and grigorovich have 24 shtil1(naval BUK) vls (2x12) for medium range but relatively poor short range/ point defense with just two AK630 CIWS and 8 igla or verba manpads.
It would have been much more effective and cheaper to add maybe an additional module for shtil, bringing it to 3x12 vls and adding kashtan missile gun systems (and eventually modernized tor/kinzhal.
Unfortunately (for them) the Indians always think that having a mishmash of different systems from various countries and also integrating expensive israeli and french components into russian systems will improve their performance...