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    Fighting Corruption in Russia

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    ZoA

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    Re: Fighting Corruption in Russia

    Post  ZoA on Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:00 am

    Enera wrote:I'm sorry if I somehow gravedig the thread but I came across two interesting links. Mind that we shouldn't totally dismiss them but view them in close scrutiny. I would like to ask second opinions from the more knowledgeble members of the forum such as Auslander, Austin, GarryB and perhaps even Mindstorm if he isn't too busy. The topic may be controversial but it is a start of a conversation. I'm still digesting the information but my preliminary opinion is that VVP is working the long game and he needed the cooperation of these people at the moment to steer Russia. American sanctions greatly helped VVP effort to curb these oligarchs. Now for the links,

    Corruption in Russia as a Business: Putin’s Palace Case Study (PDF, 2012)
    Billion-dollar medical project helped fund “Putin’s palace” on the Black Sea (Reuters, 2014)

    FFS when you post some content ad least check the sources. That pdf like is produced by "Institute of Modern Russia". 30 s internet search produces this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Modern_Russia

    In another words you linked paper by some bullshit New York outfit founded by the son of notorious Russian oligarch who's father was imprisoned by Russia on various criminal charges. You have to be complete certain to take as objective impartial source. Furthermore paper has no sources listed under references, only random footnotes leading to other largely irrelevant content, so, even if we disregard it's extremely suspect origin, it should be dismissed in account of that alone. 2nd link is just regurgitation of bullshit peddled by original worthless paper.
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    auslander

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    Re: Fighting Corruption in Russia

    Post  auslander on Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:19 pm

    Enera wrote:I'm sorry if I somehow gravedig the thread but I came across two interesting links. Mind that we shouldn't totally dismiss them but view them in close scrutiny. I would like to ask second opinions from the more knowledgeble members of the forum such as Auslander, Austin, GarryB and perhaps even Mindstorm if he isn't too busy. The topic may be controversial but it is a start of a conversation. I'm still digesting the information but my preliminary opinion is that VVP is working the long game and he needed the cooperation of these people at the moment to steer Russia. American sanctions greatly helped VVP effort to curb these oligarchs. Now for the links,

    Corruption in Russia as a Business: Putin’s Palace Case Study (PDF, 2012)
    Billion-dollar medical project helped fund “Putin’s palace” on the Black Sea (Reuters, 2014)

    Your inquiry is suspicious to say the least. You dug up a dead thread started in 2009 to post two questionable source articles, one from 2012 and another from 2014 on the same subject, and want us, and in particular me, to discuss them? When I finished laughing I decided to waste my time and reply to you.

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    Re: Fighting Corruption in Russia

    Post  Enera on Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:23 am

    Firstly I would like to apologize if I did mistakenly offend the members of the forum and my post coming from a negative light as I'm not fully aware of the matter or in other words, misinformed. My query was initially prompted from allegations from my American and European colleagues. So I would like to thank for giving me the actual truth over the matter and convey it proper to presumably, badly-informed colleagues of mine. I will carefully vet my sources next time. Embarassed
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    Re: Fighting Corruption in Russia

    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:42 pm

    Head of the Main Directorate for Work with Personnel of the Ministry of Defense of Russia is detained

    The RBC agency published Inna Sidorkova, Dmitry Serkov and Maxim Solopov’s material “Games for 20 million: for which the ex-head of CSKA was detained”, stating that the ex-head of CSKA was detained - the head of the Main Directorate for work with the personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Colonel Mikhail Baryshev. He was suspected of receiving a bribe when organizing the Third Winter World Military Games in Sochi.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3425087.html
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    Re: Fighting Corruption in Russia

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:51 am

    @Enera, there is plenty of corruption everywhere, and I personally think Putin should personally benefit for his efforts in turning around Russia from the situation he inherited the country in in 2000 to where it is now, but the articles you have shown... as you have clearly been told all about... are merely a smear campaign created and perpetrated in the west to demonise a significant rival to US dominance.

    They want a weak Russia that they can divide up and consume for its material resources and trained and educated population... and with Putin there they are not going to get it.

    Sadly most smear campaigns reflect those doing the smearing... look at the Clinton Foundation for evidence of corruption... from rigging who was put forward as a candidate through to all sorts of evil and nasty things.... Sanders might have beaten Trump but Hilary has too many skeletons.

    Of course the democrats blamed Russian hackers for revealing Clintons crimes and ineptitude... but with no actual evidence I would be more inclined to think it was more likely a leak from a disgruntled Sanders supporter within the DNC.

    But then when has the truth been important in US politics... choose A or B and live with the consequences for X number of years before you get to choose again... A or B.

    Real democracy there buddy... no wonder they feel obliged to interfere in elections around the world to ensure results that they prefer or are in their interests...

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