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    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:00 pm

    Nice video.

    Interesting little rituals before the launch.

    I also notice they don't bother with that stupid 10 second countdown like the US does all the time...
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    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:12 pm

    Russia’s Soyuz-2.1b rocket to orbit Gonets-M telecoms satellites in 2020


    By the year-end, Gonets-M satellites will be launched with the help of a Rokot carrier rocket for the last time


    MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. The work on adapting Soyuz-2.1b carrier rockets for orbitting Gonets-M communications satellites will be over in 2020 and the first such launch is scheduled for the summer of next year, Gonets Satellite System Company told TASS on Tuesday.

    "In 2020, there are plans to complete the adaptation of the Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket for the launches of Gonets-M satellites and conduct two launches (with three satellites in each launch), the first of which is scheduled for the summer, and thus renew the orbital grouping that consists of 12 satellites," the company said.

    The launch of a package of Gonets-M satellites with the help of a Rokot carrier rocket is scheduled before the end of this year. This will be the last flight by this type of carrier rockets, the company reported. "No decision on its delay was made," the company said, commenting on the reports that a decision had allegedly been made to postpone the launch until next year.

    "Work is currently underway with Gonets-M satellites developed by the Reshetnev Information Satellite Systems for their subsequent dispatch from the enterprise to the Plesetsk spaceport in October," it stated.

    The Gonets is Russia’s sole low-orbit system of mobile satellite communications designed for the global exchange of various types of information with mobile and stationary facilities, and for organizing re-broadcasting channels for various purposes. The system allows transmitting Glonass coordinate data from a mobile post to remote monitoring and communications centers, irrespective of a subscriber’s location.

    Gonets-M small-class satellites are delivered into a low circular orbit (about 1,500 km over the Earth) in a set of three space vehicles. Satellites of this series provide for communications along with registering and storing messages in their onboard memory device and subsequently transmitting them to the subscriber.

    Gonets-M satellites are also designed to provide telephone and facsimile communications in the area of users’ direct radio coverage.

    https://tass.com/science/1080750
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:18 pm

    Space bagel: Russia to fly donut-shaped spaceship to edge of solar system

    https://www.rt.com/news/470201-russian-scientists-donut-spaceship/


    This is the kind of projects , that Russia needs to do , Domination and Leadership in space is not
    only for bragging rights or any kind of Ego mania needs.. it is Instrumental for Russia existence and
    not allow the opposition to Russia ,internal or external like US ,to influence their society towards the
    US orbit , and encourage divisions in society by weaken Russia government influence at home..


    NAtional unity through Success and Leadership of their country in world development..
    This is the only way for Russia to move forward. and not like Putin does
    through meaningless Sports bullshit or remembering the old past.. or by politely asking for it..
    Is by being Successful nation that Russia can take off ,to the next level and earn the respect ,that Gasputin ask the west politely for it but never gets.. not surprisingly. Neutral  

    Hopefully the mission to the edge of solar system will pass close to other planets and take ultra extreme
    fidelity resolution pictures of Planets.. so to show the world as close as possible ,how they really looks like  ,
    and not like NASA Disney animators show us.. using their fake probe The Voyager 1 .. that there is no way
    with the technology NASA had by that time ,to do a probe that will last near 50 years sending "images"
    and "communications" surviving radiation and freezing temperatures ,that surpass several time the the north and south Poles on earth..  No nuclear reactor could last that long ,neither solar panels in the 70s could provide
    enough energy to heat for so long a probe and keep it sending high definition pictures of the solar system.

    So i hope Russia advertise this properly and hopefully the probe armed with state of the art cameras for space
    environment and bring back home true photos of the solar system..   Better late than never ,but this is the kind of projects Russia should have been doing on a regular basis every 5 to 10 years send a new probe to explore a different zone or planet or mars or jupiter or saturn satellites. Space domination should be the #1 priority of Russian budget , this not only create a tons and tons of advanced high tech jobs ,that helps the economy ,but
    this also attract a lot of foreign high potential talent too to work in Russia and best of all promote investment and
    more importantly.. it influence Russia enemies too , their interest and desire of collaboration... Russia can use
    its space program as a carrot to a horse.. to bait negative forces in US and Europe towards Russian orbit. But
    only will work ,if Russia shows clear domination and leadership on Space exploration...and the west realize it can benefit far more in cooperation with Russia..than not. This is how Putin's Russia only end the western cold/semi hot war.. and how can silence the opposition at home , and like their government..with Success and leadership and domination in space is one powerful way.. Defeating US in other high tech areas ,business that society love, and are fun for society like creating a new modern culture by developing a modern entertainment industry is another..
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:09 pm


    No timeline, no completed design, no funding, no launch platform, not even concept art of spacecraft

    This is the image they used in the article, I shit you not:

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    To say nothing of the fact that everyone and their grandma among space faring nations already sent probes out there






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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:16 am

    Russia starts operating Kanopus satellite system to monitor natural and man-made disasters


    MOSCOW, October 8. /TASS/. Russia’s Roscosmos state space corporation has launched the operation of its Kanopus-V satellite system to monitor natural and man-made disasters, Roscosmos announced on its website on Tuesday.

    "The Kanopus-V space system has been accepted for service. The corresponding decision was made by the Roscosmos state space corporation on September 26, 2019," the space agency said in a statement.

    The Scientific Center of the Earth’s Operational Monitoring of the Russian Space Systems Company has been selected as the operator of the Kanopus-V satellite system, the statement reads.

    The grouping of Kanopus-V satellites helps promptly address the tasks of continuously monitoring man-made and natural disasters and promptly detecting forest fires and large discharges of pollutants. In addition, the system’s satellites monitor natural hydrometeorological phenomena and agricultural activity.

    The Kanopus-V satellite system helps Russia renew topographic maps. The Kanopus-V satellites are making surveys of the territory of Russia with a periodicity of once or twice every twenty-four hours.

    Kanopus-V satellite grouping

    Russia started deploying its new satellite grouping with the launch of the first Kanopus-V space vehicle on July 22, 2012. The satellite was intended to operate for five years but has been up and running for the seventh year by now.

    Russia continued deploying its new satellite grouping in July 2017 with the launch of a Kanopus-V-IK. On February 1, 2018, Kanopus-V No. 3 and No. 4 satellites joined the orbital grouping. On December 27, 2018, Kanopus-V No. 5 and No. 6 Earth sensing satellites entered their designated orbit and transmitted their first images.

    Kanopus-V satellites weighing 465 kg are delivered into the sun-synchronous orbit at an altitude of about 510 km. The satellites have an active service life of five years.

    https://tass.com/science/1082086
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:21 am

    Proton-M launches EUTELSAT 5 West B & MEV-1

    Another successful launch of Proton, so thats 18 consecutive flights since the last failure (MexSat-1 in May 2015).  Hopefully the old girl can keep flying successfully until her final (well earned) retirement.  Very Happy

    In the larger picture, that's 17 flights this year without any feck-ups, so fingers crossed for a failure-free year.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:05 am

    Nice.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:28 am

    Russia sees UAE as future site for space launches
    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/general/russia-sees-uae-as-future-site-for-space-launches-
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:59 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Russia sees UAE as future site for space launches
    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/general/russia-sees-uae-as-future-site-for-space-launches-

    I'm leaning to think that Russia should have built a Soyuz pad there instead of ESAs Kourou in French Guiana.... Eurotrash can't be trusted, and while neither can the Wahhabi-lite camel fondlers of the Emirates, I think they are smart enough not to bite hands that feed them (unlike Uncle Shams minions in Occupied Europe)
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:21 pm

    The second test of the Angara-A5 rocket was postponed to 2020

    Apparently the 2nd Angara-5 flight will be postponed as the rocket delivery in Nov 2019 doesn't allow sufficient time for the military to prepare Plesetsk for a launch this year.

    No great surprise I suppose, but annoying nonetheless. It would have been good to mark the 5th anniversary of the hand-built prototypes flight with the 1st flight of a serial production unit.

    https://ria.ru/20191012/1559697209.html

    (BTW typical stupid RIA journos use a stock photo of a Proton and call it an A-5...)
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:36 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:Russia sees UAE as future site for space launches
    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/general/russia-sees-uae-as-future-site-for-space-launches-

    I'm leaning to think that Russia should have built a Soyuz pad there instead of ESAs Kourou in French Guiana.... Eurotrash can't be trusted, and while neither can the Wahhabi-lite camel fondlers of the Emirates, I think they are smart enough not to bite hands that feed them (unlike Uncle Shams minions in Occupied Europe)

    In this case it wasn't their call or their facility

    It was European project, Russians just delivered the product in exchange for money

    If there is any foreign launch site Russia should ditch ASAP it's Kazakhstan

    As for UAE it's complete nonsense because Russians still have no usable launch infrastructure back home other than for basic light payloads and even that is barely working



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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:As for UAE it's complete nonsense because Russians still have no usable launch infrastructure back home other than for basic light payloads and even that is barely working

    As for Kourou it's complete nonsense because Europeans still have no usable launch infrastructure back home...

    In any case, Russia has Plesetsk for national security payloads and Vostochny will supplant Baikonur as time goes on. There is no need to abandon the huge investment into Baikonurs infrastructure as long as it still fulfills a need. Engaging the Kazakhs and keeping them on side geopolitically is certifiably better than abandoning the facility and leaving them with a useless "asset" they can't support. Once in a while why not try looking at the big pictures over a longer timescale, cuz that's what the Ruskies and the ChiComs seem to do...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:57 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:As for UAE it's complete nonsense because Russians still have no usable launch infrastructure back home other than for basic light payloads and even that is barely working

    As for Kourou it's complete nonsense because Europeans still have no usable launch infrastructure back home...

    Kourou IS home, that is French territory

    Baikonur is abroad located in a county that has been trying to leech of Russia for years on the back of it and is constantly sabotaging projects (they are doing it as we speak with finding bullshittery)



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    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:08 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Kourou IS home, that is French territory

    Ahh...  yes, actually you are correct. I concede the point!

    Agree with you BTW on the kazakhs as they have proved to be scumbags regarding Baikonour and "joint projects" that they decide they don't want to help pay for.  I'll never forgive them for the Buran debacle, how they insisted on taking ownership of the vehicles, only to leave them abandoned and rotting. Buran destroyed in a roof collapse, and a nearly complete man-capable Pitchka looted and wrecked by scumbags looking for a fast buck....

    Despite all that Russia still needs to play the geoplitical game.  On the scheme of things, Kazakhstan is too important to Eurasian integration to allow relationships to fail over issues like this.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:42 am

    Lets see how SeaLaunch goes...
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:28 am

    GarryB wrote:Lets see how SeaLaunch goes...

    I'm expecting some Yankistani politician to advocate preventing the transfer of the launch platform to Russia, or even seizing the asset. Maybe invoking CAATSA or Magnitsky? Any pathetic contrived BS excuse will do for these congenital idiots...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:49 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Lets see how SeaLaunch goes...

    I'm expecting some Yankistani politician to advocate preventing the transfer of the launch platform to Russia, or even seizing the asset.  Maybe invoking CAATSA or Magnitsky?  Any pathetic contrived BS excuse will do for these congenital idiots...

    They can but it wont result in anything other than forcing S7 to move it to Russia anyway. They could move Sea Launch to the middle east as a measure of Russian foreign policy exchange in good will (which will lead from middle east further investments in Russia).
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    Post  owais.usmani on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Lets see how SeaLaunch goes...

    I'm expecting some Yankistani politician to advocate preventing the transfer of the launch platform to Russia, or even seizing the asset.  Maybe invoking CAATSA or Magnitsky?  Any pathetic contrived BS excuse will do for these congenital idiots...

    They can but it wont result in anything other than forcing S7 to move it to Russia anyway.  They could move Sea Launch to the middle east as a measure of Russian foreign policy exchange in good will (which will lead from middle east further investments in Russia).

    How can Russia prevent US seizing both the Sea Launch vessels?
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    Post  GarryB Yesterday at 3:36 am

    By refusing to sell them rocket motors for their space craft and Titanium to make the F-35s and Boeings.
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    Post  miketheterrible Yesterday at 3:03 pm

    GarryB wrote:By refusing to sell them rocket motors for their space craft and Titanium to make the F-35s and Boeings.

    Plus S7 can sue the US at WTO for theft of assets since S7 isn't sanctioned.

    Yeah, US wont confiscated the assets.

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