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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:14 am

    With the current trade war Trump has ordered that US companies don't cooperate with Chinese companies, so this is the best time to trade with China for Russia... not as a bully or a thief, but as a reliable trading partner.
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    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:00 pm

    Denis Manturov: “Whoever invests more will receive more preferences”

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/characters/2019/09/03/810383-ministr-promishlennosti-manturov
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    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:17 pm

    TsAGI Shows Off Refined SSBJ Design at MAKS Show

    https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2019-09-04/tsagi-shows-refined-ssbj-design-maks-show
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 am

    Austin wrote:TsAGI Shows Off Refined SSBJ Design at MAKS Show

    https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2019-09-04/tsagi-shows-refined-ssbj-design-maks-show

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    Looks pretty unusual. I think much better than the proposed model based on the Tu-160..it will be interesting to how things develop
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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:09 pm

    Status of Ka-62

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3764793.html
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    Post  Austin on Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:06 am

    Interview with UEC Chief on PD-14 , Military and other Engine programs

    https://ria.ru/20190909/1558385659.html
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28 pm

    Turkey interested in the Be-200..

    Turkey will use the Russian Beriev Be-200 Altair amphibious aircraft to extinguish forest fires, Turkish Minister of Agriculture and Forestry Bekir Pakdemirli said, Trend reports referring to the Turkish media.

    The minister said that the Turkish side has long been interested in these planes, adding that if Ankara and Moscow agree on their deliveries, Turkey will use them in the fight against forest fires.

    The forests take over 27.6 percent of the territory of Turkey. Almost all of them are owned by the state.

    More than 68,000 cases of forest fires have been recorded in the history of Turkey since 1937.

    More than 24,000 cases of forest fires have been recorded in Turkey in the last 10 years alone.

    https://en.trend.az/world/turkey/3116063.html
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    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:57 pm

    Didnt realise that Superjet order Books are more than 300 aircraft

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sukhoi_Superjet_100_orders_and_deliveries#cite_note-:30-2
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    Post  Austin on Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:59 pm

    Updated Information on MS-21 Program from MAKS 2019

    MC-21 - the most "wide-body" narrow-body aircraft

    The Premiere of MC-21: facts, figures, comments
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:32 pm

    https://aviation21.ru/zamenu-an-2-razrabotaet-uzga/

    So, the An-2 will not be replaced by the TVS-2DTS, but by a smaller aircraft derived by it. This means that the baikal will only remain as a technology demonstrator.

    It is maybe due to the limit on the max passengers allowed on a single engine plane.

    This aircraft could also compete with the pilatus pc-12, while being on a different layout (a biplane instead of a monoplane)

    https://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/en/fly/pc-12

    For larger passenger capacity Russia is already building a new version of the Let-410 twin engines aircraft.

    Probably that means that they could use the same 800 - 850 hp engine that will go on the Let-410 (the VK800S).
    The baikal was instead equipped with a foreign 1000hp engine.




    The replacement of the An-2 will develop UZGA


    Posted by 09/12/2019 | @AviaRu |  493

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade has identified the developer of a light multi-purpose aircraft to replace the An-2, it became the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA). This should be reportedRIA News, from the minutes of summing up the results of an open tender.

    Earlier, the press service of the Ministry of Industry and Trade announced the creation of a new regional aircraft with a capacity of 9-14 people. It was originally planned that the An-2 will replace the single-engine TVS-2DTS Baikal aircraft, developed by the Siberian Research Institute of Aviation on. Its serial production was planned to begin in 2021 at the Ulan-Ude aircraft factory.

    However, later the department said that Baikal is an experimental model of an aircraft designed to test new technologies.

    Earlier, the chief designer of the UZGA for aircraft construction Vadim Dyomin said that the plant proposes to develop a nine-seat monoplane to replace the An-2.

    According to him, the aircraft will have a maximum take-off mass of 4.8 thousand kilograms, which is 1.5 times less than that of TVS-2DTS. This complies with AP-23 standards, which establish weight limits for light single-engine aircraft at 5.7 thousand kilograms.

    In August, the Ministry of Industry and Trade placed an application on the government procurement portal for research and development to create a light aircraft. According to the procurement materials, it is planned to spend more than 1.2 billion rubles on development.

    The need to create such an aircraft, according to the department, is caused by a significant reduction in the fleet of An-2 aircraft, which mainly provide intra-regional air traffic. According to the Ministry of Trade, in 15 regions aviation is the main component of the transport system, and more than 28 thousand settlements do not have ground communications.

    The terms of reference, given in the documentation, say that an advance project of the aircraft is currently developed. "Based on the materials of the preliminary project, for the design and development of a promising light multi-purpose aircraft for serial production and operation on local airlines, a standard aerodynamic aircraft with a passenger capacity of 9-14 people is recommended," the document says.

    It is also noted that the promising aircraft will meet modern market requirements and will be created on the basis of advanced promising scientific and technical solutions and aviation technologies.

    According to the procurement materials, until December it is planned to create a general view of the aircraft and outline technical design documentation, carry out calculations for static strength, as well as form working design documentation for the airframe, its systems and power plant.

    A set of design documentation for the prototype is planned to be created before September 2020, and after - until December - it is planned to create the prototype aircraft for static tests.
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    Post  owais.usmani on Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:56 am

    Could not find a dedicated Il-96 thread so posting it here:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/124406/

    Fuselage of first Il-96-400M is ready.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:37 pm

    https://aviation21.ru/ciam-rekomenduet-razrabatyvat-samolyot-bajkal-s-dvumya-i-s-odnim-dvigatelem/

    As I foresaw in my previous post, they are planning to use the VK-800S engine for it, bringing it to commonality with the Let-410 twin.

    Differently from what I expected, however, they are now saying that it will be a monoplane (probably high wing) and not a biplane.


    TsIAM recommends developing a Baikal aircraft with two and one engine

    Posted by 09/17/2019 | @AviaRu |  611

    Specialists of the Central Institute of Aviation Motors named after P.I. Baranov (TsIAM) issued an opinion on the advance project of the light multi-purpose aircraft “Baikal” (developed by JSC “UZGA”) in terms of the power plant.
    The passenger plane of local Baikal air lines (TVS-2DTS) can be used for transport, sanitary, agricultural and search and rescue purposes. The speed of the aircraft is 300 km / h, the maximum flight range is 3000 km.
    In the preliminary project, two alternative versions of the aircraft are presented: single and twin-engine monoplanes. The final version will be determined at the stages of preliminary design and technical design.
    As part of the power plant of the Baikal aircraft, it is proposed to use a VK-800C turboprop engine. It is made according to a modern design scheme, providing the optimal ratio of specific and operational indicators of the engine for this purpose and power class. TsIAM noted that the choice of engine was recognized as rational.
    TsIAM experts concluded that the advance project presented by the developers can be adopted for further development of experimental design work on its basis. It is recommended to stay on a twin-engine layout, if necessary, to create a single-engine aircraft on its basis in the future. "We compared single and twin engine options, both are needed," the experts concluded.
    The TVS-2DTS technology demonstrator is equipped with a Honeywell TPE331-12UAN American turboprop engine with a take-off power of 1,100 hp. and a five-blade reversing screw manufactured by Hartzell Propeller Inc. (USA).
    The level of parameters of the VK-800C engine is selected based on the conditions of application of the developed model of a centrifugal compressor and single-stage uncooled turbines. Engine power on takeoff - 800 l. with., at maximum continuous mode - 600 liters. from. The engine is designed for multi-purpose aircraft with a carrying capacity of 1000-1500 kg.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:43 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:Could not find a dedicated Il-96 thread so posting it here:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/124406/

    Fuselage of first Il-96-400M is ready.
    I believe it should go to the civil aviation thread
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:37 am

    In Voronezh completed the slipway assembly of the latest airliner Il-96-400M
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:26 pm

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3778226.html

    What will be and when will the Baikal fly

    The web resource Aviation of Russia published an article by Andrei Velichko “What will it be and when will the Baikal aircraft fly, which says that with the aircraft that is supposed to replace the An-2, there are more and more questions that accumulate as as officials of various levels and other responsible persons offer us more and more information on this project. The problem is that in the messages that we hear and read, there is a very weak relationship - new participants are connecting to the development of the Baikal aircraft, but the reason for refusing to launch the practically finished TVS-2DTS in the series is not explained. In this regard, it becomes incomprehensible: who develops what, how the end product will turn out, and most importantly, when?
    (...)


    Some interesting points.

    Still not clear about the fact they said that they were planning a single engine version with 9 passengers (monoplane) and a twin engine with 19 passengers.

    Wasn't the same plant (Ural Civil Aviation Plant) involved in building a russianised Let-410 (also a 19 passengers airplane), furthermore planned to be equipped with the same engines (VK-800s)?

    Where they unsatisfied by the Czech airplane characteristics and they so decided to use it only as reference for the development of this new twin?

    Will they do the same thing with the Let-610 plans? E.g. use it only as a starting point for a new airplane?

    And what about the Baikal biplane planned to be built at Ulan-Ude helicopters plant (that mainly built helicopters, but that previously built the twin seater version of the Su-25)?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:29 am

    Interesting they are talking about monoplanes too... the best feature of the An-2 is its very high lift wing arrangement that meant even if you lost engine power you could simply pull back hard on the flight stick and the aircraft would slow right down and then gently descend... it was pretty much stall proof...

    If landing into the wind its ground speed could be very low, at some airshows during windy days they often seemed to hover because the wind speed was similar to their flight speed...

    I guess using materials and design technology they applied to their upgrade of the An-2 to then use that to develop and single and twin engine replacement for it and the LET twin aircraft makes a lot of sense and they don't seem to want to say it, but the result is getting two foreign aircraft designations out of Russian military service.

    There was little point in producing the updated An-2 if they needed American engines and props to make it viable, and by scaling it down they can develop this engine that will also be used on helicopters too from memory... isn't that VK-800 also planned for use on the Ka-226T model for high altitude operations and higher payload weights to replace the French engines it currently uses?

    The problem is that in the past they have developed twin engined replacements for the AN-2.. the An-28 and An-38 were both put forward as replacements... both being twin engined aircraft with a single wing... but they both failed to replace the An-2 because they made them more complex and expensive to operate, and their ability at short rough fields was not as good as the An-2... so they didn't end up replacing anything.

    I hope they wont repeat that mistake again.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:50 am

    No, the VK-800 is too powerful for the Ka226. They could or course derate it, but it would be inefficient and probably too heavy. The Russian engine that will be eventually mounted on the Ka-226 (and probably also on the Kazan Ansat) will be the VK-650.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/124142/

    I was just checking the available info for the An-28, and it is of similar size as the Let-410  Turbolet, while having much slower cruising speed (325 km/h vs 405km/h), but also shorter takeoff and landing run and probably stall speed.

    I still do not understand what they plan to do with this new twin baikal successor and the let-410. Are they planning to build the two of them at the same time, trying to unify engine and other components, maybe having one optimised for relatively high cruise speed and the other for low speed capability?

    Or just try to get the best of both world, with a new derived design. After all the TVS-2DTS has a max speed of up to 350 km/h against the about 260 km/h max speed of the original An-2  (cruise speed was instead down to 190 km/h).

    Anyway, the twin engine aircraft will not be a full replacement for the An-2, as they still plan to build a smaller single engine aircraft to replace it.

    Thus, it is possible that they saw the possibility of applying the lesson learnt and the improvements from the TVS-2TS tests to the Let-410, so they will produce it for a few years before switching to a russian twin derived from it with extensive use of composites on both wing and fuselage.

    And in the meanwhile they could do the same for the russian version of the Let-610, that should replace the an-24 and 26 as 40 seater turboprop passenger aircraft.

    https://www.aerotime.aero/clement.charpentreau/23899-russian-polar-airlines-order-resurrects-let-l-610-program

    Here they speak about orders for a Let-610, but maybe it will be a completely new aircraft derived from it and with a russian name (e.g il,yak, or something else).
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    Post  Austin on Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:18 pm

    Superjet with Sabrelet Flight Display at MAKS 2019

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    Post  Austin on Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:19 pm

    The perfect aerodynamics - interview with A.Dolotovsky

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:52 am

    No, the VK-800 is too powerful for the Ka226. They could or course derate it, but it would be inefficient and probably too heavy. The Russian engine that will be eventually mounted on the Ka-226 (and probably also on the Kazan Ansat) will be the VK-650.

    The VK-800 was mentioned as an option for a special high altitude version of the Ka-226T for use in India and neighbouring high countries.

    It would be used in hot and high locations so the extra engine power would be important... if you look at the difference in power of the An-24/26 transport and the An-32 intended for hot and high operation the latter aircraft is just the former design with twice the engine power and engine pods raised on the wings to allow much larger propellers to be fitted to deliver more thrust with the larger more powerful engines.

    The An-32 is not in Russian service simply because they didn't need the extra power, so compared with the An-26 it took off easier and faster but burned more fuel and didn't really do a better job. For countries like India the extra power was critical for operating from some of their airstrips in hot and high locations where other less powerful aircraft can't operate.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:00 pm


    Looks like Volga-Dnepr is going tits-up:

    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/3993702.html?utm_source=3userpost

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:07 pm

    Wonder what will become of the planes?  Sucks but oh well, one has to adjust business model after 2014 and some make it, some won't.

    Just hope someone else obtains those planes. Those Il's and An-124 are rather important.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:12 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Wonder what will become of the planes?  Sucks but oh well, one has to adjust business model after 2014 and some make it, some won't.

    Just hope someone else obtains those planes.  Those Il's and An-124 are rather important.

    Obviously they should go to VKS

    They need heavy lifters and this company has 12 of them, that would double the fleet instantly

    Besides, who else can operate and maintain these models anyway?

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:50 am

    I am sure the liquidators will appreciate whatever the VVS pays for them...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:19 am

    China may buy some.

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