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    Post  Austin on Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:35 am

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    United Aircraft president Yury Slyusar on unifying challenge

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-aircraft-president-yury-slyusar-on-unifying-c-458199/
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    Post  Austin on Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:59 am



    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-rostec-funds-give-lift-to-uecs-civilian-p-458905/
    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/how-russian-helicopters-is-expanding-its-product-lin-458275/
    https://flightglobal.com/news/articles/why-rsk-mig-sees-a-future-in-regional-turboprops-458471/
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:00 pm

    Trying to hold back the 'all parts Russian' moves wherever the Western manufacturers can.

    26 August, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Garrett Reim Moscow

    Western aircraft parts suppliers are trying to grab what they see as a growing market for air travel in Russia.

    These manufactures are bringing optimism to the MAKS air show in Moscow despite the struggles of the Russian economy and the difficulties of the country’s aerospace manufacturing sector. Several manufacturers have been burned in the past by Russian aviation projects that haven't panned out, such the Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliner, which was engined via PowerJet, a 50-50 joint venture between France’s Safran and NPO Saturn of Russia.

    The growing air travel market in Russia still seems worth it to these manufacturers. For instance, CFM International, a 50-50 joint venture between Safran and GE Aviation, believes the number of airline passengers in Russia will grow annually at about 5% to 160 million passengers by 2024. That’s slightly faster than the 4.5% annual growth rate of airline passengers worldwide, it says. As a result CFM says it is pitching its Leap engine at the show to a number of Russian airlines. The Leap high-bypass turbofan debuted in Russia in October 2018 aboard a Boeing 737 Max received by S7 Airlines. Upcoming Leap deliveries include NordStar, Utair, Belavia Belarusian Airlines and Pobeda Airlines, says the manufacturer. Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States (a group of nine former Soviet republics) represent an important market for CFM International, as the company says its older turbine, the CFM56, has a 90% market share in those regions.

    Collins Aerospace-owned Ratier-Figeac of France is also making moves to grab pieces of the Russian market. The company supplies a number of parts for the Irkut MC-21, the narrow-body twin-engined jet airliner that is Russia’s latest attempt to break the Western world’s grip on commercial aviation. Ratier-Figeac supplies the MC-21 with a full cockpit controls suite, including two active side stick units, as well as cabin equipment for the aircraft’s doors. Parent company Collins Aerospace provides primary and secondary flight controls actuation, electric power generation and distribution systems. Even though the MC-21 hasn’t received much interest outside of Russian airlines – some of which are backed by Moscow with state finance – Ratier-Figeac sees a solid aircraft. “The MC-21 is definitely a great airplane born from an advanced design,” says Jean-Francois Chanut, general manager of propeller systems and president of Ratier-Figeac. “We have received very good feedback from the flight test team and are confident that the aircraft, with our system onboard, will perform very well in operations.”

    The company is also eyeing supplying parts for the Chinese-Russian wide-body project, the CRAIC CR929. Moreover, it sees synergy in supplying Russian and Chinese development projects, including the narrow-body Comac C919. “We believe that building a family of platforms, reusing the most recent technologies developed successfully on the MC-21 or C919 is a good opportunity to offer a wider fleet to airlines at a reduced development cost and lower programme risks,” says Chanut.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:29 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Trying to hold back the 'all parts Russian' moves wherever the Western manufacturers can.

    26 August, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Garrett Reim Moscow

    Western aircraft parts suppliers are trying to grab what they see as a growing market for air travel in Russia.

    These manufactures are bringing optimism to the MAKS air show in Moscow despite the struggles of the Russian economy and the difficulties of the country’s aerospace manufacturing sector. Several manufacturers have been burned in the past by Russian aviation projects that haven't panned out, such the Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliner, which was engined via PowerJet, a 50-50 joint venture between France’s Safran and NPO Saturn of Russia.

    The growing air travel market in Russia still seems worth it to these manufacturers. For instance, CFM International, a 50-50 joint venture between Safran and GE Aviation, believes the number of airline passengers in Russia will grow annually at about 5% to 160 million passengers by 2024. That’s slightly faster than the 4.5% annual growth rate of airline passengers worldwide, it says. As a result CFM says it is pitching its Leap engine at the show to a number of Russian airlines. The Leap high-bypass turbofan debuted in Russia in October 2018 aboard a Boeing 737 Max received by S7 Airlines. Upcoming Leap deliveries include NordStar, Utair, Belavia Belarusian Airlines and Pobeda Airlines, says the manufacturer. Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States (a group of nine former Soviet republics) represent an important market for CFM International, as the company says its older turbine, the CFM56, has a 90% market share in those regions.

    Collins Aerospace-owned Ratier-Figeac of France is also making moves to grab pieces of the Russian market. The company supplies a number of parts for the Irkut MC-21, the narrow-body twin-engined jet airliner that is Russia’s latest attempt to break the Western world’s grip on commercial aviation. Ratier-Figeac supplies the MC-21 with a full cockpit controls suite, including two active side stick units, as well as cabin equipment for the aircraft’s doors. Parent company Collins Aerospace provides primary and secondary flight controls actuation, electric power generation and distribution systems. Even though the MC-21 hasn’t received much interest outside of Russian airlines – some of which are backed by Moscow with state finance – Ratier-Figeac sees a solid aircraft. “The MC-21 is definitely a great airplane born from an advanced design,” says Jean-Francois Chanut, general manager of propeller systems and president of Ratier-Figeac. “We have received very good feedback from the flight test team and are confident that the aircraft, with our system onboard, will perform very well in operations.”

    The company is also eyeing supplying parts for the Chinese-Russian wide-body project, the CRAIC CR929. Moreover, it sees synergy in supplying Russian and Chinese development projects, including the narrow-body Comac C919. “We believe that building a family of platforms, reusing the most recent technologies developed successfully on the MC-21 or C919 is a good opportunity to offer a wider fleet to airlines at a reduced development cost and lower programme risks,” says Chanut.

    I am getting tired of the fucking articles and about Russian economics woes.  There are no economic woes for christ sakes.  Its pathetic already and I read it all day on this site by people who decide to post cheap propaganda that has nothing to do with reality.  Yeah, their flight per person is growing.  No, western parts are not growing but shrinking. Only issue now is to deal with the companies in Russia who decide to import entirely.

    There is a reason why Russia is reviving the Il-96 and alikes. They saw what the west did to Iran.
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    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:59 pm

    UAC HAS ENTERED INTO SOFT CONTRACTS FOR 20 AIRCRAFT MS-21

    The UAC has entered into an agreement of intent for the supply of 20 MS-21 aircraft, said the head of the civil division of the corporation, Ravil Khakimov. So, ten airplanes can be purchased by the Kazakh airline Bek Air, another five vessels - the Russian “Yakutia”. The potential buyer of the remaining five aircraft in the UAC was not disclosed. Mr. Khakimov also said that he expects to sign a firm contract for an additional 35 MS-21 for Aeroflot in the first quarter of 2020.

    The United Aircraft Corporation, the manufacturer of the medium-range MC-21 aircraft, on Wednesday at the Zhukovsky air show signed an agreement of intent to supply new aircraft with Kazakhstan's Bek Air (ten aircraft) and Russian Yakutia (five aircraft). This was reported to reporters by the head of the UAC civil division Ravil Khakimov. In addition, an agreement was concluded for another five aircraft with an unnamed customer.

    Ravil Khakimov also said that the UAC expects to sign a firm contract with Aeroflot for 35 MS-21 (in addition to the 50 already ordered) in the first quarter of 2020.

    We are in constant dialogue with Aeroflot, the day before yesterday we met with the General Director Vitaly Gennadevich Savelyev. The agreement has been reached, the terms for signing the contract - I think we will sign it before the first quarter of 2020, "said Mr. Khakimov.

    In June, the head of Rostec (it includes the UAC) Sergey Chemezov set the deadline for signing the contract until the end of the year. Ravil Khakimov also recalled that the first deliveries of the MS-21 will begin in the second half of the year 2021.

    According to Mr. Khakimov, the catalog price of the MS-21 will be 20% lower than that of competitors. They are considered the most common in the mid-range segment of the Airbus 320 and Boeing 737 families. "I carefully examined all existing prices. Based on the sources that I have, the price is 20% lower than direct competitors on average. Take the catalog price of Boeing and Airbus and the method simple arithmetic will get a price. I’ll definitely tell you that, "said Ravil Khakimov.

    Firm contracts for 175 MS-21 have now been signed, but the vast majority of them have been concluded with leasing companies affiliated with Rostec and UAC. Thus, Rostec’s Aviakapital-Service structure subscribed to 80 machines, of which 50 are for Aeroflot, and Ilyushin Finance, controlled by the UAC, has 50 airplanes. VEB Leasing (30 cars) and IrAero Airlines (10) also have contracts.
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    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:36 am

    ALL THE SECRETS OF MS-21: AN INTERVIEW WITH DENIS MANTUROV ABOUT THE NEWEST RUSSIAN LINER

    https://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2019/08/29/603243.html
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    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:39 am

    More Customers Surface for MC-21 as It Debuts at MAKS

    https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2019-08-28/more-customers-surface-mc-21-it-debuts-maks

    All the three of the test aircraft now flying rely on Pratt & Whitney PW1400G turbofans, while the fourth, now under assembly, will feature PD-14s. The Aviadvigatel design house promises a 3 to 5 percent advantage in operational cost per flight hour through lower maintenance compared to the Pratt geared turbofan
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    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:33 pm

    Just came across this very recent article by Vladimir Karnozov on Russian Engine , At the end of the article there is a comparision between Western and all Russian engine including PS-90 and PD-14

    https://www.aex.ru/docs/3/2019/8/26/2950/

    Specific fuel consumption, kg / kgf * h for PW 1400G is 0.51
    Specific fuel consumption, kg / kgf * h for PD-14 is 0.525

    He mentions in that article

    Certification MS-21 / PD-14 is planned by mid-2022. According to the calculations of Perm, they beat PW1500 at the cost of a flight hour of 3-5%. Fuel consumption is slightly higher, but the PD-14 has fewer blade stages, which means it is easier and faster to service on the ground.

    Surprise to see in that table SaM146 Engine fuel consumption of Superjet 100

    Specific fuel consumption, kg / kgf * h is 0.629 which is worse than PS-90A1 ( 0.604 ) and PS-90A2 ( 0.6 )
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:48 pm

    I was reading thethe article you linked, and I noticed this




    Compared to PS-90, the degree of localization of production at UEC-PM is reduced from 70-80 to 40-45%. The total number of external suppliers is 120.

    I hope they mean Russian suppliers external to UEC, and not foreign suppliers
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:59 pm

    What is UEC-PM?

    PD-14 is all Russian thats for sure.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:08 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:What is UEC-PM?

    PD-14 is all Russian thats four sure.
    United engine corporation

    https://www.uecrus.com/eng/corporation/about/



    Apparently there are foreign parts, even if only minor parts.

    Lack of delivery of those minor parts could cause delays, until full localisation is made....

    In this article from December 2018

    http://www.rusaviainsider.com/pd-14-powered-mc-21-airliner-fly-late-2019/

    (...)the engine’s predominantly Russian-made components make it “independent of currency fluctuations,” Durnovtsev points out.

    However, he admits that it has not been possible to completely avoid foreign-made parts. “At present, there are 142 part positions which are imported, mostly for economic reasons. For example, it is cheaper to purchase gaskets and washers elsewhere, than in Russia. Key elements such as the combustion chamber are made in Russia. If required though, within two or three years, we’ll be able to make the switch to solely Russian-made parts, but it will have a slightly negative effect on the weight. And when it comes to weight, we are strictly limited by Irkut’s requirements,” Durnovtsev further explains.


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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:20 pm

    142 parts are rather small in overall for an engine.

    Something they can replace quickly. Would it really effect weight? Rather generic reasoning without much insight.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:36 am

    For example, it is cheaper to purchase gaskets and washers elsewhere, than in Russia. Key elements such as the combustion chamber are made in Russia. If required though, within two or three years, we’ll be able to make the switch to solely Russian-made parts, but it will have a slightly negative effect on the weight. And when it comes to weight, we are strictly limited by Irkut’s requirements,” Durnovtsev further explains.

    Well how the hell are those Russian part makers going to improve the performance or weight of their components if you aren't fucking buying them you moron.

    If they don't sell their product to Russian aircraft makers who are they going to sell them to?

    When they go out of business and the US adds its next tranche of sanctions over Skripal and there are no Russian makers of these parts WTF are you going to do then?

    How about man up and buy the local parts... spend some extra money and ask them to improve their products by making them lighter?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am

    GarryB wrote:
    For example, it is cheaper to purchase gaskets and washers elsewhere, than in Russia. Key elements such as the combustion chamber are made in Russia. If required though, within two or three years, we’ll be able to make the switch to solely Russian-made parts, but it will have a slightly negative effect on the weight. And when it comes to weight, we are strictly limited by Irkut’s requirements,” Durnovtsev further explains.

    Well how the hell are those Russian part makers going to improve the performance or weight of their components if you aren't fucking buying them you moron.

    If they don't sell their product to Russian aircraft makers who are they going to sell them to?

    When they go out of business and the US adds its next tranche of sanctions over Skripal and there are no Russian makers of these parts WTF are you going to do then?

    How about man up and buy the local parts... spend some extra money and ask them to improve their products by making them lighter?

    Russian businessmen aren't the smartest.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:30 am

    GarryB wrote:
    For example, it is cheaper to purchase gaskets and washers elsewhere, than in Russia. Key elements such as the combustion chamber are made in Russia. If required though, within two or three years, we’ll be able to make the switch to solely Russian-made parts, but it will have a slightly negative effect on the weight. And when it comes to weight, we are strictly limited by Irkut’s requirements,” Durnovtsev further explains.

    Well how the hell are those Russian part makers going to improve the performance or weight of their components if you aren't fucking buying them you moron.

    If they don't sell their product to Russian aircraft makers who are they going to sell them to?

    When they go out of business and the US adds its next tranche of sanctions over Skripal and there are no Russian makers of these parts WTF are you going to do then?

    How about man up and buy the local parts... spend some extra money and ask them to improve their products by making them lighter?
    Totally agree with you. And it would be silly to not be able to deliver engines in time because of the lack of washers and gaskets. We are not talking about the crucial and technologically challenging components of the engine, but you still need them.
    In my opinion, they should have been the first components to be locally produced. They need now to evaluate new local suppliers (maybe with a slightly different design f the omponent) and validate them (including their own suppliers and manufacturing techniques). It will take time, but it is important.

    The sad thing is that in the west, to save money they are doing the opposite, buying some chinese components instead of sourcing them locally, causing several small companies in UK and USA, that were specialised in it to close and liquidate their personnel. It is funny that there are even several GE engines with a fair share of chinese components.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:26 pm

    The "invisible hand" of profit maximization is a zero sum game with quality and economic security. Free market believers do not even
    know that such markets do not exist in reality and don't understand how corporations act in the market place. The first thing they do
    is to try and manipulate the system by buying politicians and bureaucrats. The notion that they voluntarily follow rules and fair play
    is for ignorant idiots.

    The Russian government has been learning the above the hard way since the 1990s. Putin has to personally intervene in way too many cases
    and that is "normal" since corruption is the path of least resistance in capitalist economics. That is not to say that command economics
    is ideal, but knee-jerk binary perceptions of which system is "better" are pathetic.

    Russia has a severe deficit of proper legislation. All companies working in strategic industries should be under a tight leash of
    regulations. Not nit-picking micromanagement, but constraints over where they can shop for parts and what sort of profit margins they
    can make. Companies that cannot abide by such fair play rules are not in it for good reasons anyway and should be kicked out. They
    are a security risk. Patriotic owners will abide since nobody is making them poor and making their companies ineffective. Naturally,
    the regulations have to apply to the whole market and not to specific companies since low bid crooks will kill the good companies ones
    fast.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:25 pm

    Actually the situation for the US is much worse... they released a report some years ago... 2017 I think where they mentioned that the last US company that made tent fabric had closed so all US Army tents are now made with imported fabric, and it is rather worse than just a shortage of tents... the material used for Rocket fuel they bought from CHINA, a lot of materials they used for high tech items also came from China, and many other foreign sourced products considered critical to Americas ability to fight a war in the future... it is quite long and boring but I will have a look and see if I can find it.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:Actually the situation for the US is much worse... they released a report some years ago... 2017 I think where they mentioned that the last US company that made tent fabric had closed so all US Army tents are now made with imported fabric, and it is rather worse than just a shortage of tents... the material used for Rocket fuel they bought from CHINA, a lot of materials they used for high tech items also came from China, and many other foreign sourced products considered critical to Americas ability to fight a war in the future... it is quite long and boring but I will have a look and see if I can find it.

    This is the path that Russia is on in the long run. Putin will not be there forever to keep watch.

    BTW, the cold hard reality of capitalist economics justifies no term limits and "kings" like Putin. As long as the electorate can elect a
    real leader (this is no longer possible in NATO countries, including the USA and "maverick" Trump) he/she should be able to crack the whip
    over profiteers and crooks for as long as necessary.

    If Putin is to leave a lasting legacy of his epic achievements, he needs to make sure that legislation is in place that secures those achievements.
    In addition, the constitution must be changed to remove the BS two term limit and to stop the CBR from being a private entity like the US Fed.
    State ownership and tight regulation of the military industrial complex and other critical sectors should be enshrined in the constitution. At
    some point the Duma will be owned by oligarchs and then they will rape the country. Tying their hands a priori is the only correct approach.

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    Post  Austin on Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:02 pm

    International Premiere of MS-21 at MAKS 2019 

     

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:23 am

    This is the path that Russia is on in the long run. Putin will not be there forever to keep watch.

    BTW, the cold hard reality of capitalist economics justifies no term limits and "kings" like Putin. As long as the electorate can elect a
    real leader (this is no longer possible in NATO countries, including the USA and "maverick" Trump) he/she should be able to crack the whip
    over profiteers and crooks for as long as necessary.

    If Putin is to leave a lasting legacy of his epic achievements, he needs to make sure that legislation is in place that secures those achievements.
    In addition, the constitution must be changed to remove the BS two term limit and to stop the CBR from being a private entity like the US Fed.
    State ownership and tight regulation of the military industrial complex and other critical sectors should be enshrined in the constitution. At
    some point the Duma will be owned by oligarchs and then they will rape the country. Tying their hands a priori is the only correct approach.

    X2

    And remove the concept of ammendments where little extra laws can be tacked on to others without proper scrutiny...
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    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:05 pm

    МС 21 премьера самолета на авиасалоне МАКС 2019

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    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:10 pm

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    MAX 2019. Half-barrel on MS-21
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    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:56 am

    As this is in Russian any thing interesting he states about PD-14 Engine in both these interviews ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7k7b83jMdc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXNVoIxTS5k
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    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm

    Guys watch this video with English Subtitles On , This is a Nice video on MS-21 from MAKS 2019.

    Shows the interior , cockpit etc

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    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:40 pm

    Operation "cooperation": the participation of UAC enterprises in the MS-21 program will reduce the cost of the liner

    https://uacrussia.livejournal.com/87680.html

    Russian-Chinese project CR929 comes to the stage of selecting suppliers of systems


    https://uacrussia.livejournal.com/87926.html

    Russia-China Project is nearing the stage of choosing system suppliers for the new widebody CR929


    https://uacrussia.livejournal.com/88560.html

    CR929: safety packed in comfort

    https://uacrussia.livejournal.com/87320.html

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