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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:15 pm

    A colma is used to extend a number in the essence past three digits. So 100,000 is One Hundred Thousand.

    I am assuming you are using a period, which differentiated between two sets of digits. Like Billion to Million or Dollars to cents. So 44.44B is 44 Billion 44Million.

    So is 44,084 B Dollars mean that Russia owes 44T dollars? Or is it 44B 084M dollars?
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    Post  Hole on Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:41 pm

    44 Bill. + 12 Bill. = 56 Bill.

    In Germany its the other way round. 1.000.000,00 = 1 Million.
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    Post  medo on Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:22 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:A colma is used to extend a number in the essence past three digits.  So 100,000 is One Hundred Thousand.

    I am assuming you are using a period, which differentiated between two sets of digits.  Like Billion to Million or Dollars to cents.  So 44.44B is 44 Billion 44Million.

    So is 44,084 B Dollars mean that Russia owes 44T dollars?  Or is it 44B 084M dollars?

    It is 44 billion $ and 84 million $. 0,1 billion is 100 million. 100,000 is hundred.  100.000 is one hundred thousand. Coma marks decimals and dot marks thousands.
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    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:20 pm

    medo wrote:
    Austin wrote:
    medo wrote:According to Russian Central Bank:

    - Russian external debt in December 2018: 453,749 billion $
    - Russian international reserves in December 2018: 466,9 billion $

    At the end of the year 2018, Russia have more money in reserves than debt.

    They need to make the difference around $200 billion then it will give Ruble more strength 

    What is public debt according to central bank ?

    Russian government debt is 44,084 billion $.
    Russian Central Bank debt is 12,072 billion $.
    The rest are banks and other sectors (companies).

    Why? They are one of the rare states if not the only one, which have higher reserves than debt. Russia also have 2.066 tons of gold, which already give a lot of strength to Rouble. Look at all those sanctions and ups and downs of oil prices and Rouble value is more or less constant and Russia didn't spent a cent to support it.

    Most of the banks are Public Sector so indirectly its owned by Government so the debt belongs to government.

    Russia gold reserves need to be at 4000  T  but the good news is Central Bank is buying all the Gold Russia mines and does not export , Since Russian known Gold Reserves is 12,000 T so they can buy their own gold and import it.  

    Better to invest less in Fiat currency and buy Physical Gold , Like 40 % of CBR forex in Physical Gold will be amazing.

    Also buy Indian Government Bond , it pays 7 % and Indian long term future is good ofcourse buy Chinese bond dump UK Pound or Australian Dollar or Canadian ones or even Yen all are crap
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    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:31 pm

    ‘US should look for its problems at home’ – Russian minister on Soros rant about ‘dangerous’ China


    Washington should focus on actually fixing its domestic problems instead of searching for external enemies to blame them on, Russia's Minister for Economic Development Maksim Oreshkin said.

    The remarks were in response to the words of liberal billionaire George Soros, who lashed out at China speaking at the Davos economic forum in Switzerland.


    China is not the only authoritarian regime in the world but it is the wealthiest, strongest and technologically most advanced,” Soros said. “This makes Xi Jinping the most dangerous opponent of open societies.”

    China brushed off the comments, saying that “statements by certain people, which portray black as white and distort facts, are completely pointless and not worthy of even a rebuttal.” Aside from Beijing, Soros has also expressed similar concerns about Russia.

    According to Oreshkin, the US should stop trying to blame the troubles of “open societies” on someone else, but look for the root of its problems at home.


    “Look at what is happening in America. Over the past 30 years real income of the middle class and below haven't grown almost at all. The expenses for healthcare and education have risen trifold, even taking inflation in account,” Oreshkin told RT during a press conference in Davos. “Naturally, it has led to the growth of dissent in America, becoming one of the factors in Donald Trump, with all his peculiar rhetoric, becoming the president.”

    The problems are within the US. An external enemy, which impedes them and causes all the trouble in the US – whether Russia or China – is just substitution of concepts.

    The official warned that such an approach – expressed by Soros and other figures of the US elite – sows nothing but confrontation, which ultimately harms the US itself end impedes economic growth worldwide.


    https://www.rt.com/business/449748-us-look-problems-home/
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    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:34 pm

    So Real Income of Middle Class and Lower hasnt grown in past 30 years is this true ? 

    How do they survive if true , borrow more
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    Post  Hole on Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:10 pm

    Credit cards. Mortgages. The saying "You can use your house as a bank" was created under Clinton or Bush II so the people would borrow more money from the banks to spend more for useless consumer goods. This let to the 2008 crisis. Which is still going on. That´s why the real estate prices have to go up endlessly so that the borrowing can go on.
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    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:18 pm

    Oh ok  , we can only hope this ends soon and we can have a more robust financial system and not dominated by single country


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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:59 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/116568/

    some results of the Russian economy in 2018
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:08 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/116600/

    In the wallets of Russians in 2018 increased "free money"
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    Post  Austin on Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:41 pm

    Putin's May Decrees and the 12 "national projects" take shape, but lacunae remain

    http://www.intellinews.com/putin-s-may-decrees-and-the-12-national-projects-take-shape-but-lacunae-remain-155297/
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    Post  Hole on Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:07 pm

    The article is a piece of shit. Written from a guy in Kiev! Laughing Yeah, they know so much about economy. Laughing
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:24 pm

    Austin posts a lot of stupid shit from crap sources. His knowledge is rather slim in topics and he lacks the ability to distinguish sources.

    It's best to place him on ignore.
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    Post  dino00 on Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:49 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Austin posts a lot of stupid shit from crap sources. His knowledge is rather slim in topics and he lacks the ability to distinguish sources.

    It's best to place him on ignore.

    Austin is one of the best members, he posts various sides of the story...but is at to him to answear you or to ignore.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:32 pm

    dino00 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Austin posts a lot of stupid shit from crap sources. His knowledge is rather slim in topics and he lacks the ability to distinguish sources.

    It's best to place him on ignore.

    Austin is one of the best members, he posts various sides of the story...but is at to him to answear you or to ignore.

    Oh lol. Yes, fake news from a Ukrainian source is unbiased reporting. One has to be beyond stupid to think that his reportings without basic fact check or even checking sources is even considered unbiased and great reporting. If he was a real journalist, he would have tarnished his career already
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    Post  Hole on Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:43 pm

    I don´t criticize the messenger.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:46 pm

    One actually should criticize the messenger. No one forced him to spread it thus he gives advertisement to a source that is faking news or providing a objectives narrative rather than subjective. In case, he is providing clicks to the source which generates revenue thus he is getting us to help pay for that site to exist and continue to spread nonsense.

    That "don't shoot the messenger" only applies in war time we're messages would transfer from one leader to another and only an individual was sent to hand it over. This doesn't apply because no one told him to post it, and two, us clicking the article can actually generate income to said host of the source. As long as they have AdSense.
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    Post  Kimppis on Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:38 pm

    What the hell is going on here... Overreacting much? scratch

    Did we read the same article? What exactly triggered you two so much? The fact that the author is currently based in Kiev!? Lol...

    Also, what exactly is "unbiased" reporting? There's no such thing. Don't go down to the level of Western experts and their "Russian propaganda and Putin's trolls are everywhere, muh hybrid warfare" hysteria. Speaking of objectivity, the constant barrage of pro-Russian "Ukraine is going to collapse any day now, tomorrow, next month, next year" reporting since 2014 has hardly been objective... objectively.

    The article itself... is nothing special, but at the same time it's only mildly anti-Russian at worst. It mostly just summarizes Putin's program. Sure, there are some vague doubts about the sources of funding and the usual Kudrin quotes, but overall it's... tame. Heck, the author even admits that the economy is now prioritized over the military, very different from the standard Russophobic tropes. His infant mortality figures are even reasonably up-to-date (Russia's infant mortality was already at American levels in 2017-18, but hey, not bad).

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    Post  Austin on Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:46 am

    I dont know if that guy is a Ukranian or from some other country , I found the article interesting enough to post and I cannot verify the authenticity of article posted all the time. 

    Member can take their own judgement call on these writers
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    Post  Austin on Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:48 am

    Very good discussion with Stastics on QE failure and how it did nothing to the US economy but simply made it worse and how the upcoming QT is helping Gold prices.

    More reason CBR should buy more gold 

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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:41 am

    Kimppis wrote:What the hell is going on here... Overreacting much? scratch

    Did we read the same article? What exactly triggered you two so much? The fact that the author is currently based in Kiev!? Lol...

    Also, what exactly is "unbiased" reporting? There's no such thing. Don't go down to the level of Western experts and their "Russian propaganda and Putin's trolls are everywhere, muh hybrid warfare" hysteria. Speaking of objectivity, the constant barrage of pro-Russian "Ukraine is going to collapse any day now, tomorrow, next month, next year" reporting since 2014 has hardly been objective... objectively.

    The article itself... is nothing special, but at the same time it's only mildly anti-Russian at worst. It mostly just summarizes Putin's program. Sure, there are some vague doubts about the sources of funding and the usual Kudrin quotes, but overall it's... tame. Heck, the author even admits that the economy is now prioritized over the military, very different from the standard Russophobic tropes. His infant mortality figures are even reasonably up-to-date (Russia's infant mortality was already at American levels in 2017-18, but hey, not bad).

    scratch


    It is clear that not many here hold the intellectual ability to distinguish opinion pieces with facts. We should just stick to facts otherwise it is regurgitating shit. And you don't want that. Not healthy for your system.

    Let us go into facts.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/116743/

    The results of 2018: in 2018, in Russia was opened 53 large-scale production

    In a recent publication I failed statistics the total number of industries. In 2018 were sold 215 new investment projects connected with industrial production. But some of them are small production. Why do we believe them? There are two reasons:

    1. Often the amount of investment were not disclosed, and it is not always possible "by eye" to estimate the cost of the project. You might have a situation where major projects will be accepted as a minor or Vice versa. Therefore it is better to consider everything.

    2. Often important and necessary country of production does not require enormous investments. This is especially true of import substitution, when it would seem a trifle, some medical bandages or gloves Russia fully imported. And its production, even if it is not too big, but strategically important. Such projects should not be excluded from reviews.

    But still, I want to sum it up it is for large enterprises.

    And their country has opened 53 — with an investment of over 1 billion rubles. That is, every fourth manufacturing or ≈ 25%.

    For comparison, in 2017, billions of dollars of projects was 46. However, a percentage of them turned out to be more ≈ 27%.

    The most expensive project in 2018 the project was the "KuibyshevAzot" ammonia production cost 20 billion rubles.

    In the second place the production of methanol-ammonia, JSC "Shchekinoazot" with the cost of 18.5 billion rubles.

    Third place goes to the new blast furnace running on the Nizhniy Tagil metallurgical combine — it cost to investors of 15 billion rubles.

    Fourth plant "Russian electric motors" in Chelyabinsk is 12 billion

    A total of 4 production with an investment of more than 10 billion rubles.

    Only 53 of the largest enterprises accounted for 178 billion rubles of the total investment of 211 billion, or ≈ 85%. That is, the remaining 102 made with the announced investment is 33 billion — or about 323 million to one.

    But it should also be remembered that in 60 production facilities investment size is not reported, and among them there are the enterprise value is clearly more than a billion rubles, for example , GK "THERMOCOOL" — plant for the production of refrigeration and HVAC equipment. But, undeclared investments we do not believe, and "by eye" not to guess.

    And now the most interesting. See in which industries most often opening large production:

    Chemical industry — 13

    Metallurgy and Metalworking — 12

    The building materials and repair — 10

    Medicine and pharmaceuticals — 5

    Electronics and electrical engineering — 5

    Mechanical engineering — 3

    Packaging materials — 3

    Woodworking — 2

    The leaders of the chemical industry, metallurgy and building materials. Immediately see which industries are developing in Russia first of all. But pleased and pharmaceuticals 5 new large-scale production. And was surprised by the packaging — didn't even know what the industry is attributed, but as many as 3 major production of packaging materials — thought-provoking.

    All professions are needed, all professions are important — he wrote the classic. In this regard, statistics shows that Russia is rather balanced. There is no bias in any of the industries or in the side of big or small industries. The same obvious that primarily built the base of production is the basis of industry — chemical and metallurgical, designed to become the basis for the production of higher value added, and that is also encouraging.
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    Post  Austin on Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:09 am

    Over a long ruble: the EAEU plans to increase payments in national currencies

    https://iz.ru/840925/pavel-panov/za-dlinnym-rublem-eaes-planiruet-narashchivat-raschety-v-natcvaliutakh
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:04 pm

    Austin wrote:Putin's May Decrees and the 12 "national projects" take shape, but lacunae remain

    before you quote such source perhaps is  good to provide who says this +  owns outlet?

    (1) ownership: US owners "specializing" in Russia http://www.intellinews.com/about/

    (2) Author:  Fabrice Deprez in Kyiv. Checked his publication's list. Pretty much anti-Russian pro Ukrainian/pro western to me.

    I dont mind talk bout facts and numbers but reading about biased opinions is like you check challenges of India on Pakistani forums, unbiased. Right?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:12 pm

    Firebird wrote: Modern Europe eh. A Rothschild fag who fucked schoolteacher grannies when he was a child. With a fat Islamist loving dyke. Fagron is so gay looking, Smerkel thinks he looks just like one of her dyke friends. Wouldn't surprise me if he had his dick amputated so she actually IS fucking him. Politics is stranger than show business. Because show business tries to keep some semblance of credibility.

    meh, his wife is cute still. He is of course Rothschild alumni. She is not a dyke, unlike Killary. She just loves money (Soros) and power (Soros via media too).



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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:57 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Austin wrote:Putin's May Decrees and the 12 "national projects" take shape, but lacunae remain

    before you quote such source perhaps is  good to provide who says this +  owns outlet?

    (1) ownership: US owners "specializing"  in Russia  http://www.intellinews.com/about/

    (2) Author:  Fabrice Deprez in Kyiv. Checked his publication's list. Pretty much anti-Russian pro Ukrainian/pro western to me.

    I dont mind talk bout facts and numbers but reading about biased opinions is like you check  challenges of India on Pakistani forums, unbiased. Right?

    Thank you.

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