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    Post  Hole on Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:17 pm

    Trumpistan broke the deal. Maybe Russia and Iran should go ahead and make some deals: Su-30, S-400, Pantsir, Iskander...
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:46 pm

    If the US goes hard line all the way sanctions on Russia they are in trouble themselves.

    That would mean cutting themselves off from the worlds major source of Titanium and a lot of other materials as well.

    It would ruin Boeing...

    It would make NASA squirm because they would have no way of getting to or from the ISS for a few years...

    At the end of the day all the hostility from the US has pushed Russia to look elsewhere... just because some tiny little country in Africa does not have the money the US does does not mean there is no value in trading with them for Russia.

    In fact trading with small non wealthy countries can often be much more profitable than trading with a superpower that wants to limit your growth and maximise their profit margins.

    Trade with the rest of the world will help both Russia grow and develop, but also the rest of the world grow and develop rather more than all these years of trading with western colonial powers.

    Trade with the west for countries means accepting their demands and bending to their rules... which generally benefit no one but the west.

    If you have ever worked in retail it is the richest customers that tend to be the tightest... if they are buying a lot of stuff they expect to get a deal... they expect to pay less than people with little or no money because they think their business is valuable. Many retailers see how wealthy they are and want their business, but by negotiating that way they will not actually earn much money from them at all because of all the incentives and bonuses they offer.

    For Russia it makes more sense to look for trading partners that don't want to control Russia or tell her how to run her own affairs and expect the same from Russia... that is most of the rest of the world... including China and India...

    What it is not is the EU and the west and the US in particular, who are always bringing up human rights issues, while at the same time murdering millions and causing the suffering of millions more with their sanctions and invasions and civil wars.... sorry colour revolutions...

    Putin is right to focus on food production... suggesting Russia should become more financial is like saying they should look in to devil worship... hedge fund managers will be the end of the west... it is just smoke and mirrors with money... it is the next generation beyond buying a company and firing all its workers and stealing their pensions and then selling the company to the highest bidder for an immoral profit.

    Companies should not be a vehicle for a quick buck for investors... companies are about employment and producing goods or services that people want or need, it is about the employees having a stable good paying job so they can support families... companies producing food that are successful can meet domestic demand and export the product to countries that need food too... everyone needs food... nobody needs hedge funds...

    Trumpistan broke the deal. Maybe Russia and Iran should go ahead and make some deals: Su-30, S-400, Pantsir, Iskander...

    And production of Su-30s in Iran will promote stability and peace in the region as it supplies these aircraft to Iraq and Syria and itself... hahahaha...
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    Post  Austin on Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:17 am

    GarryB wrote:If the US goes hard line all the way sanctions on Russia they are in trouble themselves.

    That would mean cutting themselves off from the worlds major source of Titanium and a lot of other materials as well.

    It would ruin Boeing...

    It would make NASA squirm because they would have no way of getting to or from the ISS for a few years...

    At the end of the day all the hostility from the US has pushed Russia to look elsewhere... just because some tiny little country in Africa does not have the money the US does does not mean there is no value in trading with them for Russia.

    In fact trading with small non wealthy countries can often be much more profitable than trading with a superpower that wants to limit your growth and maximise their profit margins.

    Trade with the rest of the world will help both Russia grow and develop, but also the rest of the world grow and develop rather more than all these years of trading with western colonial powers.

    Trade with the west for countries means accepting their demands and bending to their rules... which generally benefit no one but the west.

    If you have ever worked in retail it is the richest customers that tend to be the tightest... if they are buying a lot of stuff they expect to get a deal... they expect to pay less than people with little or no money because they think their business is valuable. Many retailers see how wealthy they are and want their business, but by negotiating that way they will not actually earn much money from them at all because of all the incentives and bonuses they offer.

    For Russia it makes more sense to look for trading partners that don't want to control Russia or tell her how to run her own affairs and expect the same from Russia... that is most of the rest of the world... including China and India...

    What it is not is the EU and the west and the US in particular, who are always bringing up human rights issues, while at the same time murdering millions and causing the suffering of millions more with their sanctions and invasions and civil wars.... sorry colour revolutions...

    Putin is right to focus on food production... suggesting Russia should become more financial is like saying they should look in to devil worship... hedge fund managers will be the end of the west... it is just smoke and mirrors with money... it is the next generation beyond buying a company and firing all its workers and stealing their pensions and then selling the company to the highest bidder for an immoral profit.

    Companies should not be a vehicle for a quick buck for investors... companies are about employment and producing goods or services that people want or need, it is about the employees having a stable good paying job so they can support families... companies producing food that are successful can meet domestic demand and export the product to countries that need food too... everyone needs food... nobody needs hedge funds...

    Trumpistan broke the deal. Maybe Russia and Iran should go ahead and make some deals: Su-30, S-400, Pantsir, Iskander...

    And production of Su-30s in Iran will promote stability and peace in the region as it supplies these aircraft to Iraq and Syria and itself... hahahaha...

    Garry , They would stop Titanium supply to US because this is big business for Russia and same goes for space co-operation this is big money earner and job provider in RUssia so its like trying to cut the branch you are sitting on  . This has been stated even at the official level. 

    Reaction should be political and some economic like stop buying Boeing aircraft
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    Post  Austin on Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:23 am

    Good Read 
    Next Stop: Recession!We've arrived at the end of the line  by Chris Martenson

    https://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/114781/next-stop-recession
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    Post  Austin on Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:53 pm

    Finally Russian Government has published the full Document on National Project.

    For now it is in Russian and we will have to wait for the release of english version , Lot of Graphics and Data for any one who can read Russian language

    http://static.government.ru/media/files/p7nn2CS0pVhvQ98OOwAt2dzCIAietQih.pdf
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    Post  Austin on Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:56 pm

    In Terms of Cost o National Project the break up is

    The cost of national projects in Russia from 2019 to 2024 will amount to 25.7 trillion rubles.


    13.158 trillion rubles from 25.7 trillion will be allocated from the federal budget. Another 7.515 trillion are from extrabudgetary sources.

    The costs of regional budgets for the implementation of national projects are estimated at 4.9 trillion rubles. Another 147.8 billion rubles will be provided from state extra-budgetary funds.
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    Post  Kimppis on Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:05 pm

    Thanks Austin, those 2019 vs. 2024 graphs look very interesting. I started studying Russian last autumn, so I'm not able to translate the document at all really, but I'll certainly attempt to manually translate the interesting parts with Yandex or Google Translate once I have time, unless someone else does it first.

    EDIT: Wow, Google Translate app's camera translator... thing seems to work really well.
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    Post  Kimppis on Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:51 pm

    So I did some "translating".

    The units obviously vary, but the relative change is the most important thing, which should be clear enough... and I'm not sure about certain terms, broken English, etc. The upper number is always for 2019 and the lower for 2024.

    Health and demographics:

    Able-bodied mortality:

    437 (2019)
    350 (2024)

    infant mortality

    5.4
    4.5
    (the US is around 5-6)

    Medical services - exports (USD millions, I think)

    470
    1000

    Payment for the first child - thousands of families

    237,7
    1120.1

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    Education and science:

    The number of top 500 universities - Russia's overall ranking

    17th
    10th


    Citizens who are systematically involved in physical culture and sports (I'm sure Vann loves this Cool ), millions of ppl

    40.3
    55


    Scientific papers on priority areas, indexed - Russia's overall ranking

    11th
    5th

    Number of Russian scientific journals available on international databases

    260
    500

    Russia's patent ranking - priority areas

    8th
    5th

    Domestic research and development costs (spending?) from all sources, rub billions

    1200.58
    1847.61

    (That might mean that the GDP share will remain modest, though I'm not sure at all if I'm reading that right. I guess that would be inevitable anyway, as it's the case in every Southern and Eastern European country, including countries such as Italy and Spain, heck the UK isn't far off.)

    ==========

    Economy, digital economy:

    Annual productivity growth not below 5% by 2024

    Individuals in SMEs - millions of ppl

    19.6
    25

    New SMEs (thousands)

    9
    62

    SMEs - GDP share, %

    22.9
    32.5


    SMEs - exports share, %

    8.8
    10

    Households with broadband, %

    72.6
    97

    Share of global data processing and storage services - Russia's overall ranking

    12th
    5th

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    Exports and trade:

    Non-raw material exports, USD billions

    160
    250


    Exports - "competitive industrial products"

    136
    205


    Exports - engineering products

    37
    60

    Exports - chemical industry, gas processing, etc.

    22.4
    37

    Exports - metallurgy

    51
    58

    Exports - timber industry

    12.4
    17

    Exports - pharmaceutics and cosmetics

    1.8
    4

    Exports - light industry

    1.5
    2.3

    Agricultural exports

    24
    45


    Export of services

    70
    100


    Trade between RF and the EEU

    58.9
    78.8

    ==========

    Infrastructure and housing:

    "Transportation" (?) exports

    19.3
    25

    Transport infrastructure quality index

    101.7
    115

    Road accidents, deaths

    11.7
    4


    Freight volume - Northern Sea route

    26
    80


    "Aviation mobility" of the population

    0.73
    0.95

    Volume of new housing, millions of square kms

    54.8
    80


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    Post  dino00 on Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:18 am

    Thanks for the translation!
    Lets wait for the English PDF, and That Austin post here Very Happy

    Sounds good, investing is the way.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:13 am

    ₽25 Tn  is   ~ $400Bn ?    Not bad for a "filling station", not bad at all.



    BTW Now banderlogs want to sue for non-existence of service!  new "European" invention

    "Naftogaz" called the Russian conditions for the preservation of transit unacceptable

    According to Vitrenko, the current contract does not meet European conditions. The head of Naftogaz also threatened that if Russia did not cease to provide Gazprom with exclusive conditions for the transit of gas through Ukraine, then the Ukrainian company has the opportunity to obtain compensation of ten billion dollars due to the lack of transit after 2019.

    https://ria.ru/20190211/1550705006.html





    Hole wrote:Trumpistan broke the deal. Maybe Russia and Iran should go ahead and make some deals: Su-30, S-400, Pantsir, Iskander...

    Im sure they will. The weapons that hurt US most of course.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:59 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:BTW Now banderlogs want to sue for non-existence of service! new "European" invention

    "Naftogaz" called the Russian conditions for the preservation of transit unacceptable

    ...


    Well he is more than welcome to not accept it, actually I am positive that it's Russia's preferred outcome

    If he wants preview of Russia response he just need to see how US threat to drop INF went
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:24 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Well he is more than welcome to not accept it, actually I am positive that it's Russia's preferred outcome

    If he wants preview of Russia response he just need to see how US threat to drop INF went

    I just wonder to wot arbitrage he wants to sue if there is no contract? but with western legal system you cannot be sure is some low level curt in London states its jurisdiction over Russia.


    Reuters: PDVSA transfers bank accounts of its joint ventures to Gazprombank


    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6098095


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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:38 am

    They are threatening court against Russia left right and center cause Ukraine knows they are screwed. Not transiting gas through Ukraine especially on no contract won't be accepted by anyone. And no foreign court holds jurisdiction over Russia
    Gazprom and rest won't even indulge Ukraine on this one.

    The Ukies don't seem to realize they are digging their own graves.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:05 am

    miketheterrible wrote: Not transiting gas through Ukraine especially on no contract won't be accepted by anyone. And no foreign court holds jurisdiction over Russia
     Gazprom and rest won't even indulge Ukraine on this one..

    Well, s for jurisdiction similar case with Yukos. Court in Hague didnt recognize Russian court's decision. Even though Russia never  ratified its jurisdiction. Many Russian's govt assets were (temporarily) arrested.  Luckily IMHO, Russia  used lever of western investment on its territory. That helped better then anything else.


    But now level of western aggression steps up.  Jurisdiction of Swedish arbitrage over last contract might be artificially expended on new non existing. I hope then Russia use more assertive leverage.


    I think that Germans will negotiate with Russia compromise. There might be transit but on normal conditions. Transit is to make economically bible Ukro gas network for EU investors.  But we need to live to see it ;-)


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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:27 am

    This was written by a person who is part of Putins Presidential Staff , Any idea what he is trying to say ?



    Vladislav Surkov: Putin’s Long State


    http://www.ng.ru/ideas/2019-02-11/5_7503_surkov.html
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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:13 am

    Vedomosti has provided a good break up of the funding

    The government estimated the cost of national projects at almost 26 trillion rubles

    Infrastructure development will be the most expensive, and education and science are among the “cheapest” national projects.


    https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2019/02/11/793769-na


    The government has published materials with key indicators of 12 national projects and expenditures on them for the next six years, as well as similar indicators for a comprehensive plan for the modernization and expansion of trunk infrastructure. The implementation of national projects and the plan will require more than 25.7 trillion rubles, of which 13.1 trillion rubles. It is planned to allocate from the federal budget more than 7.5 trillion rubles. - from extrabudgetary sources, over 4.9 trillion rubles. - from regional budgets. Another 147.8 billion rubles. will be spent from state extra-budgetary funds.

    A comprehensive infrastructure development plan turned out to be more expensive than every national project. In six years, 6.35 trillion rubles will be spent on it, including 3 trillion rubles. from the federal budget. The second place in terms of expenditures is the national project “Safe and high-quality roads” with expenses of 4.78 trillion rubles, i.e., taking into account the comprehensive plan for infrastructure development, in the next six years it is planned to spend over 10 trillion rubles. In third place is the national project “Ecology” (4.04 trillion rubles).

    For each program, the government has published key events and targets. For example, the integrated infrastructure development plan includes 9 federal projects: “Europe - Western China” (655 billion rubles), “Sea ports of Russia” (927 billion rubles), “ Northern Sea Route"(587.5 billion rubles.)," Rail transport and transit "(1.25 trillion rubles.)," Transport and logistics centers "(55.9 billion rubles.)," Communication between the centers of economic growth "(1, 71 trillion rubles.), "The development of regional airports and routes" (267.5 billion rubles.), "High-speed rail service" (621.8 billion rubles.), "Inland waterways" (276.4 billion rubles.). By 2024, the increase in production capacity of seaports should be 44 million tons (in 2018 - 19 million tons). The delivery time of transit container cargoes in the North-South direction is planned to be reduced from 2.5 to 2.1 days, in the Europe-Western China direction - from 3.2 to 1.6 days, in the West-East direction from 8.9 to 7 days. By 2024, 68 airfield complexes will be reconstructed, including 38 airports in the Far East.

    The road development project will consist of four areas: the development of the road network (4.44 trillion rubles), the development of road facilities (279.5 billion rubles), the improvement of road safety (55.9 billion rubles), and roads for the Ministry of Defense Russia "(5.6 billion rubles.). The share of regional highways that meet regulatory requirements is planned to be increased in six years from 43.1 to 50.9%, the share of the road network of urban agglomerations from 42 to 85%. In the next six years, it is planned to approve more than 130 new standards and technical requirements. The number of cameras for photo and video recording on the roads in six years is planned to be almost doubled.

    701.2 billion rubles will be allocated from the federal budget for the implementation of the national project “Ecology”, 133.8 billion rubles from the regional budgets. It is planned that more than 3.2 trillion rubles. will give investors. The main objectives of the national project are the elimination of unauthorized landfills within cities, reducing air pollution in large industrial centers, improving the quality of drinking water, and ecological rehabilitation of water bodies (the Volga, Lake Baikal and Teletskoye). Of the 12 federal projects included in the national project, the implementation of the best available technologies (2.4 trillion rubles) is the most expensive.

    More than 1 trillion rubles. estimated costs for the implementation of national projects "Demography" (3.1 trillion rubles.), "Health" (1.72 trillion rubles.), "Digital Economy" (1.63 trillion rubles.), as well as "Housing and urban environment" (1.066 trillion rubles.). Less than 1 trillion rubles. required for the implementation of national projects "International Cooperation and Export" (956.8 billion rubles), "Education" (784.5 billion rubles) and "Science" (636 billion rubles). 481.5 billion rubles are needed for the development of small and medium-sized businesses and support for individual entrepreneurship, and 113.5 billion rubles for the national project “Culture”.

    It is planned to allocate 1.37 trillion rubles from the federal budget for the implementation of the National Health Project, 265 billion rubles from regional budgets, 94 billion rubles from state extra-budgetary funds, 100 million rubles. accounts for extra-budgetary sources. The most expensive in this program will be the fight against cancer - it is planned to spend 969 billion rubles on it. The target indicators of the national project are to reduce the mortality of the working-age population to 350 cases per 100,000 people (now 485 cases), mortality from circulatory diseases from 588 to 450 cases per 100,000 people, a decrease in infant mortality from 5.6 to 4.5 cases per 100 000 people), an increase in the volume of exports of medical services by no less than 4 times as compared with 2017, to $ 1 million per year.

    723.3 billion rubles will be allocated from the federal budget for the implementation of the national education project, 45.7 billion rubles from regional budgets, 15.4 billion rubles from extra-budgetary sources. By the end of 2021, it is planned to eliminate education in the third shift in Russian schools, by the end of 2024 to build and put into operation with the attraction of private investment 25 schools, to create 230,000 new places in general education organizations. Russia should rise in the top 500 global university rankings from 17th to 10th place.

    President Vladimir Putin signed a decree "On the national goals and strategic objectives of the development of Russia until 2024" in May last year. On the basis of this decree, the government formed national projects in 12 directions and prepared a plan for the modernization and expansion of the trunk infrastructure.
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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:16 am

    As I highlighted Infrastructure alone is getting 10 trillion rouble in National project which is a good 35 % plus chunk of the money.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:47 am

    Austin wrote:This was written by a person who is part of Putins Presidential Staff , Any idea what he is trying to say ?



    Vladislav Surkov: Putin’s Long State


    http://www.ng.ru/ideas/2019-02-11/5_7503_surkov.html

    And here one of opinions about this column. IMHO worth reading.

    https://vz.ru/politics/2019/2/11/963729.html



    BTW well. did you red "liberal minded" folks comments?


    The author of the concept of "sovereign democracy" decided to break the mask and admit that we are not democracy at all? If the authorities are so honest, what was there to say, everything is fine - we are committed to human rights as the highest value, but we have a special system of governance? Indeed, as it turns out now, "the brutal structures of the power frame go straight along the facade." Why not tell society back in 1999 that they would go straight along the facade? Why was it so gradually pull them to the surface?



    this idiot really thinks average American can influence anything? Euro-peon? I hope such morons re not too many in Russia. In Frnce Micron si dtht referendum is too important to let people call for it lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:29 am


    Garry , They would stop Titanium supply to US because this is big business for Russia and same goes for space co-operation this is big money earner and job provider in RUssia so its like trying to cut the branch you are sitting on  . This has been stated even at the official level.

    Russia is the worlds largest supplier of titanium... if the US does not buy from them then they will have to buy it from a third party... the titanium would still be sold but the US will simply end up paying more for it.

    As far as space cooperation the Russians do earn money from sales of rocket engines and selling a seat on Russian rockets to get NASA personel to the ISS, but the Russian rocket engines are not used on any human rated US rockets so stopping using Russian rocket engines wont change the cooperation, the change would be stopping buying seats on Russian space craft to get to the ISS.

    The US would have to ask the French to get them to the ISS, I doubt they would ask the Chinese, and they are not likely to get man rated rockets of their own together quickly enough to matter... they just wouldn't be able to send Americans to the ISS.

    THense they would probably just pull out of the programme, which would likely lead to the europeans, canadians and japanese doing the same... the Russians would inherit a space station, though I would suspect the Americans would demand their parts detached and deorbited... they would go home and take their ball with them...

    EDIT: Wow, Google Translate app's camera translator... thing seems to work really well.

    The yandex Image translater with OCR works well too.

    According to Vitrenko, the current contract does not meet European conditions. The head of Naftogaz also threatened that if Russia did not cease to provide Gazprom with exclusive conditions for the transit of gas through Ukraine, then the Ukrainian company has the opportunity to obtain compensation of ten billion dollars due to the lack of transit after 2019.

    The sooner Russia withdraws from the various european organisations and courts the better...


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:16 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    According to Vitrenko, the current contract does not meet European conditions. The head of Naftogaz also threatened that if Russia did not cease to provide Gazprom with exclusive conditions for the transit of gas through Ukraine, then the Ukrainian company has the opportunity to obtain compensation of ten billion dollars due to the lack of transit after 2019.

    The sooner Russia withdraws from the various european organisations and courts the better...


    True, but mind, that not signing anything wont help, not being wont help either if you dont have any leverage. Look at Kazakhstan's US reserves or Venezuela's gold in London...




    Putin's special representative noted the importance of the project on the sustainability of Runet


    MOSCOW, February 12 - RIA News . The draft law on the sustainable work of the Runet is important for the Digital Economy program, since for its implementation it is planned to provide the Internet with the entire territory of Russia, the Presidential Special Representative for Digital and Technological Development Dmitry Peskov told RIA Novosti.
    Peskov indicated that the draft law was aimed, among other things, at creating an infrastructure that would be able to ensure the efficiency of domestic Internet resources in case of impossibility to connect to foreign servers.

    Why is this important? In the framework of the Digital Economy program, it is supposed to provide Internet throughout the territory of Russia, connecting to the network not only individually the residents of the country, but also all strategic facilities, schools, hospitals and others. The risk that in the case of unfriendly actions from outside These or other elements of the digital infrastructure are disabled, must be excluded. And it is necessary to ensure the safety and sustainability of the system in advance, "he said.
    Peskov recalled that the program prepared about 20 bills.
    “And they are not prohibitive. These laws concern the regulation of data, biometric identification systems, the legalization of so-called digital currencies - and they were formed in the logic of creating opportunities while maintaining integration into world processes,” he added.
    The bill introduced by senators Andrei Klishas and Lyudmila Bokova and deputy Andrei Lugovoy (LDPR) is aimed at protecting the stable operation of the Internet in Russia in the event of a threat to its functioning from abroad. According to the explanatory note, it is prepared taking into account the aggressive nature of the US National Cyber ​​Security Strategy adopted in September. Earlier, the State Duma adopted the draft in the first reading.


    https://ria.ru/20190212/1550757740.html

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    Post  Austin on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:11 am

    Nord Stream 2 Was Always A Done Deal

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Nord-Stream-2-Was-Always-A-Done-Deal.html
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:51 pm

    And now after failing to stop (for now) Nord Stream 2 , they are now re-introduced a bill
    of Sanctions from Hell on Russia. .Targeting Russia energy business and basically anything possible
    to break Russia economy..

    US senators re-introduce Russian sanctions 'bill from hell'

    https://www.rt.com/usa/451406-sanators-bill-sanctions-russia-lng/


    My only hopes is that the "4d chessmaster" Putin ,gets a clue that he is facing a real war with Americans...
    and that will only get worse if he do nothing as he have been doing since came to power.. NOTHING ,to
    stop this.. at best what he have been doing is DELAY the war with the modernization of their military and
    survive the economic attacks. .But Putin is NOT dealing with the problem.. by not fighting US... and just
    remain Passive... and look to the other side.  when slapped in the face.

    Russia only options ,if it wants to avoid a nuclear war ,because eventually the provocations on Russia will not
    stop and Russia patience will be over.. (and will have to use military force).. is to create an alternative business world... How he can do this.. by promoting a major education and post industrial era revolution , of High tech
    and entertainment innovative digital and electronic business ,including Internet and New PC world , aimed at replacing/surpassing the ones Americans have..  A perfect example of this is China , Huawei vs Apple.. Well done for China.. they are FIGHTING and offers an alternative to American iphones and a very damn good one.. and US will be UNABLE to block Huawei from most of the world.. only from most puppet nations.. this will sink Apple sales big time , and counter US influence and business leadership in the world. but where is Russia fight?  where is Russia rovers in the moon or mars? where is Russia strong competition to Intel ?

    or Russia alternative to US internet? Russia needs to switch budgets.. give the budget he spend in sports to space , and sports privatize that completely to the most lazy investors. Russia space program needs a 10x times bigger budget and promote many private space companies too ,space tourism , Moon and Mars ,electronic and digital Entertainment industry , and militarization of space should be seen as crucial for Russia existence.  If Russia FAILS to influence Europe away of US orbit.. then the nations Russia fails to influence will have  to face them in a war. is that simple. . If Russia start leading by doing a major breakthrough in space ,and eclipse NASA there ,,even US citizens and its own elites will be influenced and they will demand ending the cold war.. because they will know can benefits too..

    also , he can explore the idea of privatization of many Russian companies (even if done in paper only) to friendly European nations.. that way US cant sanction what belongs to EU..  If Americans managed to submit germany from trading with Russian companies.. lets say German elites  threatened their own lives and family.. Russia can privatize Gazprom and sell it to Europe ,get a lot of money from it.. and nationalize it later if a world war 3 start.
    This will force Europe to do everything they can to avoid US start a war with Russia. or they will lose their investments..their huge investments there . This worked very well for CHINA.. notice how Trump cant effectively
    sanction China ,and need to negotiate with them..because CHINA to have influence their business with America..
    Russia big problem is that is have no influence of US ,nothing to negotiate.. business wise..  except Russia space program that is the only thing Russia have that influence Americans.. but Putin "the wise" dont take advantage of this ,by not being very ambitious ,with their space program...
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    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:12 am

    If I am not wrong Iran has been living under such sanctions for decades and managed to survive.

    So any Sanctions from Hell wont dramatically change economy for Russia because of interdependencies of Energy and other production the world has on Russia.

    Any nations that wants to trade with Russia will do , Like CAASTA didnt stop India to do business with Russia inspite of every tom dick and harry coming from Washington to India to threaten India of dire consequences ........ China wont stop trade , EU wont stop buying Energy , CIS wont stop trade and many other nations.

    The long term inpact will be minimal , The short term impact would be some on the Stock Market and Ruble fluctuating till it stabilises.
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    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:42 am

    I think the day is not far off when a random US Senator will introduce a Bill in the House to sanction Russian People who eat food grown in Russia and not made in USA or Europe Laughing

    They may be part of list of people barred from Travelling to US Sad
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    Post  medo on Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:54 am

    In US are mad, bacase Russia develope their own financial transaction system and new they will test their own internet before April this year. Russia will now be totaly disconnected from US, so sanctions will practicaly have no effect and US global monopol is broken as there will be paralel systems.

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