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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:11 pm

    Is Erdogan's Ottoman dream over? He should have been hang upside down like Mussolini in 2016 coup. Pity that coup failed. He's still going down though. He thinks he's the new Hitler.
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    Post  zorobabel on Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:26 pm

    I think Russia is bombing around the convoy to keep it from getting to Khan Sheikhoun, while they are also bombing up north to keep anything else coming down. Putin also said he supported the offensive while talking to Macron.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:50 pm


    And look who's back thumbsup

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:59 pm

    A good Erdogan is a dead Erdogan. Either a bullet to the head like Hitler or hang upside down like Mussolini. A secular Turkey is a Russia friendly Turkey.
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    Post  nero on Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:34 pm

    Khan Shaykhun is captured.

    Rebels flee from Lataminah, Kafr Zita and towns in the pocket. Unknown direction. Maybe to Turkish observation post.

    Entire pocket to fall in few days. Turks probably trying to set up new observation posts.

    Edit: Reports of Kafr Zita being captured.

    Complete rebel collapse.
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    Post  crod on Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:52 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    And look who's back :kool

    Wooohooo!
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    Post  crod on Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:00 pm

    nero wrote:Khan Shaykhun is captured.

    Rebels flee from Lataminah, Kafr Zita and towns in the pocket. Unknown direction. Maybe to Turkish observation post.

    Entire pocket to fall in few days. Turks probably trying to set up new observation posts.

    Edit: Reports of Kafr Zita being captured.

    Complete rebel collapse.

    It would appear so re Khan Shaykhun https://syria.liveuamap.com/
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    Post  Isos on Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:27 pm

    It seems that in the last years Russia pushed all of them around there so that in this final operation they will have the run back in Turkey and then in Europe.

    Very bad for Europe if they let the borders be what they have been since the start of Syrian war. And all of them will have a big impact in Turkey, Erdogan will probably use them in its militias while some will come back in Europe and kill people.

    It's probably why Putin visited Macron today.


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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:22 am

    crod wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    And look who's back :kool

    Wooohooo!

    The best cartographer out there. Much delight in his own thread as well. Hadn't realised that he had been absent for a year. Time flies.

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:28 am

    What a difference 9 days fighting makes. The SAA struck further north than the arrows in the first map.

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:39 am

    Video of the Turkish convoy, lots of trucks with the tanks/APC. Can anyone work out if this was southbound before it was stopped or northbound going home?

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:03 am

    Isos wrote:It seems that in the last years Russia pushed all of them around there so that in this final operation they will have the run back in Turkey and then in Europe.

    Very bad for Europe if they let the borders be what they have been since the start of Syrian war. And all of them will have a big impact in Turkey, Erdogan will probably use them in its militias while some will come back in Europe and kill people.

    It's probably why Putin visited Macron today.



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    Post  zorobabel on Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:13 am

    Turks are claiming that their convoy made it to Khan Sheikhoun before the town completely fell to the SAA.
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    Post  nero on Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:54 pm

    zorobabel wrote:Turks are claiming that their convoy made it to Khan Sheikhoun before the town completely fell to the SAA.
    They claimed that yesterday. It was obviously wrong, as the entire convoy was shitting their pants 20-30 kilometers north.
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:31 pm

    Now this is completely new .. China now backstab Russia and Syria in their operations
    in IDBLIB..  Shocked

    https://www.rt.com/newsline/466880-isis-syria-china-un/



    China’s special envoy has said that there is a danger of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) forces being revived in Syria.

    Xie Xiaoyan, on Tuesday, also called for progress in the political process between the Assad government and opposition, Reuters reported.

    Beijing’s diplomat made a statement to reporters after talks with UN special Syria envoy Geir Pedersen in Geneva.


    “There is now a danger of terrorist organizations like ISIS being revived, we see some signs,” China’s envoy said. “The fight against terrorism needs to be finished.”



    What a rat the chinesse.. if Chinese cities were being bombed with artillery by the
    muslin chinese population near afgan border..and discovered Turkey and US was smuggling weapons from the border  they will not be saying how the "fight need to stop ". China will have raised to the ground the entire rebelious terrorist zones and will not have give them any peace.

    So "ISIS"Return doesn't make sense at all . Unless they know of a new attempt of US
    of sending a second wave of thousands of terrorist from US controlled zones in the eastern desert.. Either case.. if RUssia stop bombing terrorist in Syria will send a bad signal to all the sectarian jihadist extremist..  Russia leaving Syria or even showing any kind of tolerance to IDLIB terrorist and their artillery attacks, will only encourage more terrorist to join their crusade.  Russia needs to continue bombing terrorist forever even if that means 100 years dropping bombs.. So that every jihadi idiot ,understand it is very risky to live in IDLIB and stay away from it and the ones already there just leave.  

    What is important to remember is that Advancing territory is not necessarily the most important thing..

    The most important thing is to kill terrorist.. as many as possible , To make sure that Alqaeda and any any other extremist group in Syria ,experience the worse kind of misery ever in their existence while deployed in Syria. that they can't sleep ever at nights and that bombs falls on their heads permanently every day.. All IDLIB roads destroyed ,bridges ,communications infrastructure ,electricity, agriculture ,make it impossible for them to live.. and make sure they get one of them killed every day...when they break the cease of fire.. To transform IDLIB into a new Palestine on steroids..but reversed. Where the bad guys are the ones being bombed by airforce. Until now Russia have been doing that.. and have success. Since have seen reports on twitter of Jihadist from Saudi Arabia and Lybia who left
    Syria.. after seeing how difficult is the fight conditions for them..  So the pressure and the bombing on them should not stop....however it needs to be a long term operation ,that pose few risk for Russia ,to not provoke too much Turkey or US  into a direct war, so that Russia can sustain it.. for years or decades.. and without spending a fortune in Russia economy. or in Military lives in the conflict.  IDLIB It will be the most ideal Training place for Russia military and airforce.  The bombs should only stop ,when IDLIB is 100% cleared of terrorist , and or at very least.. they agree to a real cease of fire and stop attacking Syrian army controlled cities.. and the terrorist disarmed of all their heavy weapons.. and once Erdogan no longer in power ,restart the operation and finish the job ,with 100% capture of IDLIB.
    So all of IDLIB needs to be capture and controlled by Syria 100%.. But the timeframe is not important.. if it is done in 1 year ,10 years or 100. What is important is that all world terrorist , islamic sectarians monkeys understand that is a Big Mistake to ally to NATO or anyone in a fight against Russia.. And that they reject any idea of any fight anywhere , that they aware Russia Military will interfere. Cool That will be the ULTIMATE definition of victory.. For Russia.. and will guarantee that US and major allies, will never have a chance to repeat the Syrian proxy war operation ever again.. in any place Russia have interest.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:46 pm


    Some official acceptance

    Rebels withdraw from key Syrian town as pro-Assad troops advance

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/20/rebels-withdraw-in-key-syrian-town-as-pro-assad-and-turkish-troops-gather
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:56 am

    Where are those claiming the rebels were advancing in IDLIB ? lol1

    Terrorist Offensive in Idlib FAILS! Many Ethnic Minorities From Russia Among Ranks of Jihadis!




    For the record ...for me definition of progress is major wipe of terrorist with very
    little casualties for the Syrian army side..  Territorial gains , can be good or bad , it depends
    what will be the price to pay for syrian army to gaining territory.

    We saw that in Palmyra Holms clearly..
    Russia capture the city , with little casualties for them ,wiping thousands of terrorist..
    Months later rebels recapture it , with massive losses of terrorist ,while Syrian army was doing a tactical retreat with few loses.. A week later they retake it again , with the casualties in favor of Russia again and Syrian army. That was a very successful operation.. and terrorist don't dare to try Palmyra again.. after that.. they know open desert ,is vulnerable for them.. no place to hide.

    So this is told ,so people don't get distracted by Land capturing skirmish games.. and have to see the whole picture ,that the war will only end for syria , when all the terrorist killed or give up fighting and leave. So having the upper hand means ,inflicting massive damages on the morale of the enemy ,with biggest casualties by far on them...,while Holding key territory , as long it make sense to hold it..   If the sacrifice is too much ,in holding a place in that moment ,then is better a tactical retreat ,save lives and re-capture it again at a later time ,when things are more favorable for them... Just like Russia did in palmyra.

    So far until now Russia have the upper hand in Syria..since they came in 2015.. and is no surprising that Syrian army continues advancing little by little. Simple observation explain it all..The Rebels have no cover zero defense from Russia airforce airstrikes ,is bombing festival ,practice.. it even looks a fun target practice..  and so battles are always in favor on Syrian army ,as long Russia have planes in the air ,filled with bombs..  targeting them.
    Turkey only way to change the tide is use their own Army and airforce and stop Russia from flying and bombing in IDLIB. but that will be war on Russia ,something they will prefer to not do it.. for the very negative consequences that will be for them.  Im sure the Russian military long time ago ,have already plans ,for such scenarios ,even before than Russia enters in Syria.. they had to simulate all possible scenarios in war rooms.. before taking that risk of moving to Syria. and building a base there. scenarios that Erdogan (or US or Israel) backstab Russia again ,and target Russian planes again..  And Russia  and Syrian army are in much better position today to confront Turkey in a direct fight ,than it was in 2015 . So Erdogan will be risking a lot more than losing his political career,if he backstab again Russia.


    Found a pic from the latest advance on Khan Sheikhun ,of the kind of fire power the Syrian army/Russia airforce was using against the terrorist fighters. .

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    Wondering what could produce such kind of explosion?  Did they hit an ammo depot?
    anyone knows images of the biggest bomb used by Russia against rebels? and the missile used? for comparisons ? strangely enough the smoke formed like the face of an alien like face from the side . lol1

    update...
    Was visiting CIA favorite propaganda network ...CNN ,to see exactly what is the Pentagon is thinking now with Syrian army latest advances in IDLIB.. basically the recent news on Syria is that Pentagon is blaming Trump for the resurgence of ISIS and in CNN panelist are claiming that TRump told that Syria can deal with its own problems..

    So the silence in US media suggest that Trump managed to convince the military and by proxy US media ,to not interfere in those recent advances and no desire to stop Russia and Syria advance in IDLIB at least in that town.. and the lack of headlines ? in US mainstream major network media ? is eye opening.. It seems as if Trump administration had reach an agreement with Putin over IDLIB or at least parts of it.. If i was to bet . All this specific advances were perhaps negotiated between Putin and Trump at G-20.. and that at least.. Putin will advance in the western part of IDLIB after teh capture of Khan Sheikhun  to enhance the security of Russia base and push the terrorist farther.. and after that try a new cease fire.. and repeat.
    they break a new cease of fire and Russia push again and take another city.. cease of fire,  they break it and take another city , until they agree to a real cease of fire and completely DISARM.
    Is also very eye opening how no news ,surfaced during Putin meeting with Macron over Syrian army advances on idlib.. Is like US and France have given up to the idea of blocking
    Syrian army fight with Alqaeda there. So it is possible that at least partially.. Putin negotiated those advances.. and without Erdogan being part of those negotiations of course.  Smile  It seems Trump is seeking to win elections and pushing for being seen as cooperative with Russia on Syria.. something he promised to do.. in the campaign to get along with Russia in Syria .

    a very good video , of days ago ,for those who have not seen it.



    Two terrorist captured confession..
    The syrian army advance was so fast that two terrorist did not saw when the Syrian army encircled their positions in their rear ..and confused the Syrian army with their own people and asked them .. hey guys why the road was blocked.. and thats when they were arrested.  they were lucky were not shot.. lol1   Also the video shows what looks to be a T-90 or modernized T-72 in action in the liberation of lKhan Sheikhun  Smile

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:41 pm

    Russia finally deploys Mi-28N on Kabani front. These have excellent EO and can spot bad people much better than jets can.

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:58 pm


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    NEW MAP: #SAA took control of #KhanSheikoun and isolated the towns of #Morek, #KafarZita and #Latamina. Losing these heavily fortified towns (and now besieged forces) is a heavy blow to the militants operating in #Idlib. #Syria.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:55 am


    Airstrikes, encirclements and Peto Lucem's maps

    Just like the good old days... Cool
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    Post  BKP on Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:13 am

    Just popped in to celebrate that the SAA with Russian help took Khan Sheikhoun today. Gonna be some upset folks in certain circles. Haha! Yeahhh boooiiiii cheers russia

    Correction: Ooops, that was a little premature. WILL be taking it very soon I should've said!
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    Post  starman on Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:53 am

    How many rebels are trapped?
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm

    starman wrote:How many rebels are trapped?
    No rebels, but (hopefully) there are plenty of terrorist goat-raper Wahabbi scum.  Laughing

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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:02 pm

    In addition to capturing Khan Sheikhon today they also captured Tal Sayyad and Sayyad and Wadi Anaz.

    https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1164539954426515458

    https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1164551829285482496
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:05 pm

    Sputnik video from Khan Sheikhon

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