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    Post  Aristide on Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I hope you understand now.

    No, I don't think he actually gets it...

    Tell him you are an arrogant self centred dick with an over inflated opinion of yourself again, because I am sure if you prove you are a dick again he will listen this time...

    How amusing. But also tiresome. You should work on your repetiveness.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:16 pm

    Aristide wrote:

    How amusing. But also tiresome. You should work on your repetiveness (sic).
    That's about the most hypocritical a comment that I have seen for a while.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:26 pm

    There is no non european art by the way. Africans produce worthless shit evry 3rd year old produces. Its not compareable to real art. It was collected during collonial times as freakshow. To show how primitive they are.
    Then why bring artifacts from Egypt & display/store them in France? Not all French have the same shitty attitude: In 2009 Egypt demanded that the Louvre return five fragments of a wall painting from the tomb of Tetaki, an 18th-dynasty noble. To get round the Unesco convention, the French authorities initially claimed that the artefacts had left Egypt before the text was ratified. However, it emerged that they had been stolen at a later date, and France was obliged to return them to Egypt. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/03/france-museums-restitution-colonial-objects
    https://www.louvre.fr/en/departments/egyptian-antiquities
    http://cairoscene.com/Buzz/Biggest-King-Tut-Exhibition-to-Be-on-Display-In-France
    https://news.softpedia.com/news/millennia-old-egyptian-artifacts-to-go-on-display-in-paris-france-488328.shtml
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36280732/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/egypt-museums-return-our-stolen-treasures/#.XB_KtUtKiyI

    The Talibs & ISIS fanatics also destroyed ancient pre-Islamic art, but that doesn't mean their ideology is right, even for them.
    Thanks on enlightening me & the rest of the world on ur sick "Frenchland über alles" ideology. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uber%20alles

    It's snobbish bigots like u that r only good as organ donors & French soil fertilizers! In a few decades, if not sooner, u won't be able to do any ethnic cleansing:
    https://www.france24.com/en/20180116-france-birth-rate-fertility-greying-population

    Seek truth from facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seek_truth_from_facts

    As u bury ur head in the sand like an ostrich & refuse to face the truth, the delusions that u spit out here won't impress any1 in any way, shape or form. U r in the wrong forum, messier!
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:50 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    There is no non european art by the way. Africans produce worthless shit evry 3rd year old produces. Its not compareable to real art. It was collected during collonial times as freakshow. To show how primitive they are.
    Then why bring artifacts from Egypt & display/store them in France? Not all French have the same shitty attitude: In 2009 Egypt demanded that the Louvre return five fragments of a wall painting from the tomb of Tetaki, an 18th-dynasty noble. To get round the Unesco convention, the French authorities initially claimed that the artefacts had left Egypt before the text was ratified. However, it emerged that they had been stolen at a later date, and France was obliged to return them to Egypt. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/03/france-museums-restitution-colonial-objects
    https://www.louvre.fr/en/departments/egyptian-antiquities
    http://cairoscene.com/Buzz/Biggest-King-Tut-Exhibition-to-Be-on-Display-In-France
    https://news.softpedia.com/news/millennia-old-egyptian-artifacts-to-go-on-display-in-paris-france-488328.shtml
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36280732/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/egypt-museums-return-our-stolen-treasures/#.XB_KtUtKiyI

    The Talibs & ISIS fanatics also destroyed ancient pre-Islamic art, but that doesn't mean their ideology is right, even for them.
    Thanks on enlightening me & the rest of the world on ur sick "Frenchland über alles" ideology. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uber%20alles

    It's snobbish bigots like u that r only good as organ donors & French soil fertilizers! In a few decades, if not sooner, u won't be able to do any ethnic cleansing:
    https://www.france24.com/en/20180116-france-birth-rate-fertility-greying-population

    Seek truth from facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seek_truth_from_facts

    As u bury ur head in the sand like an ostrich & refuse to face the truth, the delusions that u spit out here won't impress any1 in any way, shape or form. U r in the wrong forum, messier!

    Egypt is not african since the people who made the artifacts then were genetic europeans.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-egyptians-europeans-related-claims-a7763866.html

    Those artifacts are not safe in Egypt. Its a shithole and evry object taken out there is safe.

    And as a matter of fact, the Egyptian history is OUR history. It was us who digged it out and i might remember you, it was a french man who was able to translate the egyptian letters.

    We brought back the names of the Pharaos, Nobody would know who was Nefertiri, Tut Anch Amun or Ramses. Nobody would know the names of the kings who build the pyramides.

    I visited egypt in 2016:

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    I love history and egyptian artifacts. Too bad that Egypt today is setteled by smelly, dirty monkeys. They cities were horrible, the people are all poor and smelly beggars

    That said, spare me all those bullshit links. I never clicked a single one.

    What i mean with "african art" is shit like this:

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    worthless trash that cant be compared with french art

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:55 pm

    So you clipped France during flying over it? ..When you fly from Austria to Norway you clip Russia and fly over Russia in 22 minutes.
    I crossed a significant portion of France, south of Orleans, so don't compare ur flight across a small piece of Russia to that. My other flight in 2002 from Ulan Bator, Mongolia to Moscow on a Tu-154M lasted ~6 hrs, most of it over Siberia, at 900-950 km/hr. cruise speed. That distance over Russia is only 1/2 of distance from its W. border to Kamchatka; it takes eight hours to fly from Vladivostok to Moscow. If u fly at average speed of 900 km/hr from Moscow to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, it will take 7.5 hours.
    Why France is the land where the sun never setteles - Page 4 Direct-flights-to-mongolia-map
    http://www.airwar.ru/enc/craft/tu154m.html
    https://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from-moscow-to-petropavlovsk-kamchatsky-ru

    France is a small country of just 640,679 km² area and Russia has 17,098,242 km² area, it's 26 times larger than France.
    https://www.investment-in-russia.com/site/en?view=RUSSIA-IN-FIGURES

    To be fair, Brazil is larger than the continental USA. And btw, not all Brazilians r Negroid. Out of The [total] population of Brazil, as recorded by the 2008 PNAD..of approximately 190 million..
    According to the National Research by Household Sample (PNAD) of 2008, 48.43% of the population (about 92 million) described themselves as White; 43.80% (about 83 million) as Pardo (brown), 6.84% (about 13 million) as Black; 0.58% (about 1.1 million) as Asian; and 0.28% (about 536 thousand) as Amerindian (officially called indígena, Indigenous), while 0.07% (about 130 thousand) did not declare their race. ..
    From the 19th century, Brazil opened its borders to immigration. About five million people from over 60 countries migrated to Brazil between 1808 and 1972, most of them of Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, German, Ukrainian, Polish, Jewish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, and Arab origin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil#Demographics
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil#Race_and_ethnicity

    Perhaps the Algerians still dance to ur tune, but the Vietnamese don't. Only the French embassy & perhaps some nationals in Hanoi take orders from Paris. As for how important France is, it's all relative. France has 300 nuclear warheads of ~51.6 megatons total:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    China has at least ~260 of 294 megatons total:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    Her conventional military is larger than France's. If China decides to take the French Polynesia, there isn't much Paris alone can do to stop it from happening. Also, China's influence is expanding in Africa, incl. some former French colonies: http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2018-12-21/1_1027_africa.html?print=Y
    Egypt is not african since the people who made the artifacts then were genetic europeans.
    Even if true, the Ancient Egyptians have plenty of African & Semitic genes too, as Nubian, Libyan, Ethiopian, Hyksos, Assyrians & Arabs traded with &/ ruled them for many years; just because a Frenchmen deciphered their writing, it doesn't give u the right to appropriate their history & art. Some1 else would have done it eventually anyway. ..the Hyksos invasion changed the history of ancient Egypt in many ways. ..Ancient Egypt experienced a new wave of technological, cultural and religious developments, highly influenced from the Mitanni Kingdom, the Hittite Empire, and Mesopotamia. Foreign diplomats, merchants and craftsmen moved to ancient Egypt.
    http://www.ancientpages.com/2016/10/26/hyksos-invasion-ancient-egypt-changed-history/
    http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/nubia.htm
    https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/tipd/hd_tipd.htm
    http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/etime.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt#Egyptian_expeditions_to_Punt

    At the same time Egyptian civilization seems to have been African in its beginnings and in its main line of development, despite strong influences from all parts of Asia. Of what race, then, were the Egyptians? They certainly were not white in any sense of the modern use of that word--neither in color nor physical measurement, in hair nor countenance, in language nor social customs. They stood in relationship nearest the Negro race in earliest times, and then gradually through the infiltration of Mediterranean and Semitic elements became what would be described in America as a light mulatto stock of Octoroons or Quadroons. This stock was varied continually: now by new infiltration of Negro blood from the south, now by Negroid and Semitic blood from the east, now by Berber types from the north and west.
    Egyptian monuments show distinctly Negro and mulatto faces. Herodotus, in an incontrovertible passage, alludes to the Egyptians as "black and curly-haired" a peculiarly significant statement from
    one used to the brunette Mediterranean type; in another passage, concerning the fable of the Dodonian Oracle, he again alludes to the swarthy color of the Egyptians as exceedingly dark and even black. Æschylus, mentioning a boat seen from the shore, declares that its crew are Egyptians, because of their black complexions.
    Modern measurements, with all their admitted limitations, show that in the Thebaid from one-seventh to one-third of the Egyptian population were Negroes, and that of the predynastic Egyptians less than half could be classed as non-Negroid. Judging from measurements in the tombs of nobles as late as the eighteenth dynasty, Negroes form at least one-sixth of the higher class.
    Such measurements are by no means conclusive, but they are apt to be under rather than over statements of the prevalence of Negro blood. Head measurements of Negro Americans would probably place most of them in the category of whites. The evidence of language also connects Egypt with Africa and the Negro race rather than with Asia, while religious ceremonies and social customs all go to strengthen this evidence.
    The ethnic history of Northeast Africa would seem, therefore, to have been this: predynastic Egypt was settled by Negroes from Ethiopia. They were of varied type: the broad-nosed, woolly-haired type to which the word "Negro" is sometimes confined; the black, curly-haired, sharper featured type, which must be considered an equally Negroid variation. These Negroes met and mingled with the invading Mediterranean race from North Africa and Asia. Thus the blood of the sallower race spread south and that of the darker race north. Black priests appear in Crete three thousand years before Christ, and Arabia is to this day thoroughly permeated with Negro blood. Perhaps, as Chamberlain says, "one of the prime reasons why no civilization of the type of that of the Nile arose in other parts of the continent, if such a thing were at all possible, was that Egypt acted as a sort of channel by which the genius of Negro-land was drafted off into the service of Mediterranean and Asiatic culture." ..Blyden, the great modern black leader of West Africa, said of the Sphinx at Gizeh: "Her features are decidedly of the African or Negro type, with 'expanded nostrils.' If, then, the Sphinx was placed here--looking out in majestic and mysterious silence over the empty plain where once stood the great city of Memphis in all its pride and glory, as an 'emblematic representation of the king'--is not the inference clear as to the peculiar type or race to which that king belonged?"
    The middle empire arose 3064 B.C. and lasted nearly twenty-four centuries. Under Pharaohs whose Negro descent is plainly evident, like Amenemhat I and III and Usertesen I, the ancient glories of Egypt were restored and surpassed.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/dbn/dbn05.htm

    I spent 2 months in Egypt in 1995-96 & saw many locals there. They r a mix of races.
    FYI, the French art was also influenced by Africans:
    During the early 1900s, the aesthetics of traditional African sculpture became a powerful influence among European artists who formed an avant-garde in the development of modern art. In France, Henri Matisse, Pablo Picasso, and their School of Paris friends blended the highly stylized treatment of the human figure in African sculptures with painting styles derived from the post-Impressionist works of Edouard Manet, Paul Cézanne and Paul Gauguin. The resulting pictorial flatness, vivid color palette, and fragmented Cubist shapes helped to define early modernism. While these artists knew nothing of the original meaning and function of the West and Central African sculptures they encountered, they instantly recognized the spiritual aspect of the composition and adapted these qualities to their own efforts to move beyond the naturalism that had defined Western art since the Renaissance.
    As Henri Matisse exhibited his Blue Nude in 1907 and The Dance in 1909, Picasso countered with the work that become one of the cornerstones of his fame, which we now know as Les Demoiselles d'Avignon. In this work, he began to incorporate African influences into his work. .. Picasso based the faces of the two women on the right on the African totem art, that he had also collected. ..
    Picasso's African Period lasted from 1907 to 1909. This period, which followed his Blue Period and Rose Period, was also called the Negro Period or Black Period.
    Picasso acknowledged that a visit to the Trocadero museum changed him, but he didn't say why, he never gave African art the credit it deserves. Some pieces of African art in the Trocadero are as much "wonders of the world" as the pyramid of Giza or the works of Rembrandt, not technically of intellectually, but for their incredible emotional intensity. Throughout Picasso's work you can see references to some of the African masks he saw at the Trocadero, but rather as pale, timid caricatures, totally lacking the power of the originals - maybe that's why Picasso always was so secretive about his African influences. Picasso's unique gift to art was his unparallelled flexibility, that allowed him to identify, absorb and use in his own art, much of what the history of human art had to offer.
    After painting Les Demoiselles d'Avignon, Picasso began painting in a style influenced by the two figures on the right side of the painting, which were based on African art. Although the painting is seen as the first Cubist work, before beginning the Cubist phase of his painting, he spent several years exploring African art. During this time the French empire was expanding into Africa, and African artifacts were being brought back to Paris museums. The press was abuzz with exaggerated stories of cannibalism and exotic tales about the African kingdom of Dahomey. Also talked about was the mistreatment of Africans in the Belgian Congo with Joseph Conrad's popular book Heart of Darkness. It was natural therefore in this climate of African interest that Picasso would look towards African artifacts as inspiration for some of his work.
    Picasso's African influenced period was followed with the style known as Analytic Cubism, which had also developed from Les Mademoiselle Mignonne's. Specifically Picasso's interest was sparked by Henri Matisse who showed him a mask from the Dan region of Africa. Scholars maintain that Matisse purchased this piece from Emile Heymenn's shop of non-western artifacts in Paris.

    https://www.pablopicasso.org/africanperiod.jsp
    https://www.pablo-ruiz-picasso.net/period-african.php

    It was during a visit to the Musée d’Ethnographie in Paris that Pablo Picasso became so moved by the shapes, lines, and angles of the African masks that he famously declared that he learned what painting is really about. https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/foreign-gods-leopold-museum-vienna

    So now, to be true to urself, u may decide to dislike Egyptian & some of the French art since it's based to a large extent on its Black African roots!
    Those artifacts are not safe in Egypt. Its a shithole and evry object taken out there is safe.
    Classical protection racket spin! The Egyptians want them back as it's their heritage & ancestral mummies they want to protect from cultural thiefs like u.
    Too bad that Egypt today is settled by smelly, dirty monkeys. They cities were horrible, the people are all poor and smelly beggars
    No, not all of them! For those who r poor, u can blame the French & British imperialism that made them that way!
    U see a speck in the other's eye, but don't see a log in ur own!
    U been shown to be wrong again, on all counts!
    Stop making a fool of urself!


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:10 am

    So, u been shown wrong again on all counts! Stop making fool of urself!

    Think about what you are trying to do...

    If you succeed in making this dick more human you will crush his world outlook... he would probably commit suicide rather than continue the way he is.

    More likely though it will just make you realise some people on this planet can't be saved and don't want to be saved so they can continue to function the way they do.

    There are plenty like him around and common sense and reason wont change that... they are happy with their world view... it is surprising coming from a frenchman, normally you get it from American teenagers or Israelis... but I guess it can happen anywhere.

    Not saying you should stop of course, but just be realistic in your expectations... in terms of our cheese eating surrender monkey friend here becoming enlightened and stepping away from the selfish self centred censored he is to becoming a much better human being... not every one can do it... most manage it in their teens when they realise mummy wont be there to wipe their asses all the time and they need to cooperate and communicate with others to get on in this world...

    Normally international travel does it, but it has clearly actually made him worse.
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:57 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:autistic screeching

    amigo...it takes at least 28h to fly from Paris to Nouméa.

    The rest of your bullshit is rubbish as well. It would be interesting to see the pancake faces try take Polynesia. French Polynesia is one of the most far right french regions. They follow a extreme form of patriotism there.

    China is not even able to get the Senkaku islands infront its own coast from Japan.

    I doubt the chinese would attack french area. Its not their kind of way. 56 MT nuclear bombs could erase China, even more so that their cultural centers are on a very concentrated area.

    Add the fact that the chinese are hated in Polynesia as well as New Caledonia and you see how much rubbish you talk.

    As for the rest f your bullshit, i posted you the egenetic data. The old egyptians were of european ancestry. Nobody denied that they got down breeded later to the scum they are today.

    Old egypt was incredible racts. Pharao Khufu called blacks "animals" and unworthy. The more Egypt lost this attitude, the more it collapsed into the shithole it is today.

    Their filth, poverty and low status disgusted me. I believe some of them should ask themself the question if it would not be betetr to die and not carry on and be a burden.

    The artifacts France found there are our artifacts. We translated the language. Evryone else was to dumb to do it.

    As for the artifacts...the egyptians are too primitive to care for them.

    Last year they damaged the mask of Tut Anch Amun, which had to be repaired by german experts.

    efore that they damaged the mummy of Pharaoh Ramses II and it was repaired in Paris.

    They are dumb and filthy and all this stuff is not secure there. Here it is.

    And for my Kiwi friend Gary, what makes you think i cant cooperate and communicate? How you think i manage to win?

    When in foreign country i´m rather friendly and nice as long it gives me what i want.

    On our flight to Australia we had a black flight attendent. She obviously was from some former french colony. She appeared to have found me attractive and i even flirted a bit with her before take off and voilà...i got an upgrade.

    I´m attractive and i know how to look and act like to get what i want.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:22 pm

    .it takes at least 28h to fly from Paris to Nouméa.
    Over many other countries & in the international airspace!
    French Polynesia is one of the most far right french regions. They follow a extreme form of patriotism there.
    The patriots could be all killed off/exiled & the rest subjugated like the French, Dutch, British, Portuguese, Spanish & American colonizers succeed in doing elsewhere since 1492.
    China is not even able to get the Senkaku islands infront its own coast from Japan.
    They haven't pushed the issue hard enough & hope to get it back w/o going to war.
    56 MT nuclear bombs could erase China, even more so that their cultural centers are on a very concentrated area.
    They were getting ready to be nuked by the US & USSR since the Korean War & 1968 border war, & over the Taiwan issue. They can afford to loose all big cities & still survive as a nation:
    Echoing threats last made in 1995, Mr Zhu, who has a reputation as a hawk in Chinese military circles, said his country was ready to sustain heavy casualties in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and other heavily populated areas.
    "We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian," he said. "Of course, the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese."
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/16/china.jonathanwatts
    In total Military Strength, China is #3:
    https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=china

    While France is only #5:
    https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=france

    With her overall superiority, China may crush u in the Pacific: https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_France_vs_China
    The old egyptians were of european ancestry.
    U use a selective source so it fits ur view, but the reality is a lot different:
    In their paper, the researchers acknowledged that “all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt.” In the south of Egypt, the authors wrote, sub-Saharan influences may have been stronger.
    This study left two gaps in the Egyptian timeline that Krause wants to fill, he said. It is not clear when the African gene flow, present in modern Egyptians, occurred. Nor could the study determine the origin of the Egyptians. “The other big question is, 'Where did the ancient Egyptians come from?' ” Krause said. To answer that, scientists will have to find genomes “back further in time, in prehistory.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/05/30/dna-from-ancient-egyptian-mummies-reveals-their-ancestry/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.566fbca07e43

    Mainstream scholars reject the notion that Egypt was a white or black civilization; they maintain that, despite the phenotypic diversity of Ancient and present day Egyptians, applying modern notions of black or white races to ancient Egypt is anachronistic. In addition, scholars reject the notion, implicit in the notion of a black or white Egypt hypothesis, that Ancient Egypt was racially homogeneous; instead, skin color varied between the peoples of Lower Egypt, Upper Egypt, and Nubia, who in various eras rose to power in Ancient Egypt.
    In the last few years, the first credible, peer-reviewed genetic studies on Ancient Egyptians have been conducted, which show that a small but significant and consistent percentage of Ancient Egyptian ancestry came from sub-Saharan Africa. This ancestry is lowest in northern Egypt, and becomes increasingly large as one proceeds south through the populations of Middle and Upper (southern) Egypt. A 2017 genetic study of 83 mummies from northern Egypt (buried near modern-day Cairo), which constituted "the first reliable data set obtained from ancient Egyptians using high-throughput DNA sequencing methods," showed that these persons were most closely related to the diverse modern populations of what is now the Arab world, particularly the southern Levant and Arabia, while also indicating smaller affinities to the neighboring southeastern European and sub-Saharan African (Nubian) populations. Though the mummies were much more closely related to Arab populations than European, they were actually slightly more closely related to southeastern Europeans than modern Egyptians, a fact publicized in the press coverage of the study; the genetic distance between Ancient and modern Egyptians reflects the much greater level of sub-Saharan African ancestry in modern Egyptians, who are heavily mixed with sub-Saharan Africans, and may also stem from a faulty comparison on the part of the study's authors, who compared Lower (northern) Egyptian mummies to the average genetic composition of all contemporary Egyptians (from both Upper and Lower Egypt).
    Nevertheless, all 83 mummies tested had significant levels of sub-Saharan African ancestry, although this ancestry was relatively distant. Specifically, the mummies contained between 6% and 15% sub-Saharan African ancestry, with this component getting increasingly large in the later eras of Ancient Egypt. ..The authors also cautioned that their findings might be unrepresentative of Ancient Egypt as a whole, anticipating that mummies from Upper (southern) Egypt would contain considerably greater levels of sub-Saharan African ancestry than the Lower Egyptian mummies they examined, and calling for more future research on the matter.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

    Egypt has a long and involved demographic history. This is partly due to the territory's geographical location at the crossroads of several major cultural areas: North Africa, the Middle East, the Mediterranean and Sub-Saharan Africa. In addition, Egypt has experienced several invasions during its long history, including by the Canaanites, the Ancient Libyans, the Assyrians, the Kushites (a Nubian civilization), the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, and the Arabs. ..
    "There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sub Sahara and tropical Africa.
    ..the samples available for study are "microscopically small", and "are only a tiny, sad and unrepresentative remnant" of the approximately 200,000,000 people who lived in Egypt over the 4,000 years of that civilization’s history. ..the physical anthropological evidence indicates that early Nile Valley populations can be identified as part of an African lineage, but exhibiting local variation. ..
    In 2008 Keita found that the early predynastic groups in Southern Egypt were similar craniometrically to Nile valley groups of Ethiopid extraction, and as a whole the dynastic Egyptians (includes both Upper and Lower Egyptians) show much closer affinities with these particular Northeast African populations.
    In 2013, Terrazas et al. conducted a comparative craniometric analysis of Dynastic Egyptian skulls with ancient and recent crania from other parts of Africa, and found that the ancient Egyptians were morphologically closest to modern Afroasiatic-speaking populations from the Horn of Africa. ..
    Zakrzewski (2003) studied skeletal samples from the Badarian period to the Middle Kingdom. She confirmed the results of Robins and Shute that Ancient Egyptians in general had "tropical body plans" but that their proportions were actually "super-negroid".
    Trikhanus (1981) found Egyptians to plot closest to tropical Africans and not Mediterranean Europeans residing in a roughly similar climatic area. A more recent study compared ancient Egyptian osteology to that of African-Americans and White Americans, and found that the stature of the Ancient Egyptians was more similar to the stature of African-Americans, although it was not identical..
    The Ancient Egyptian language has been classified as a member of the Afroasiatic language family. There is no agreement on when and where these languages originated, though the language is generally believed to have originated somewhere in or near the region stretching from the Levant in the Near East to northern Kenya, and from the Eastern Sahara in North Africa to the Red Sea, or Southern Arabia, Ethiopia and Sudan.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_Egypt

    Reactionaries, meanwhile, say that there’s never been any significant black civilizations—an utter falsehood, of course. There were several in fact, highly advanced African empires and kingdoms throughout history. Curiously, some extreme Right groups have even used blood group data to proclaim a Nordic origin to King Tutankhamun and his brethren.
    The problem, it was thought, is that mummy DNA couldn’t be sequenced. But a group of international researchers, using unique methods, have overcome the barriers to do just that. They found that the ancient Egyptians were most closely related to the peoples of the Near East, particularly from the Levant. This is the Eastern Mediterranean which today includes the countries of Turkey, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. The mummies used were from the New Kingdom and a later period, (a period later than the Middle Kingdom) when Egypt was under Roman rule.

    https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/were-the-ancient-egyptians-black-or-white-scientists-now-know
    Pharaoh Khufu called blacks "animals" and unworthy.
    They called as such all their enemies, regardless of race or skin color.
    Egyptians & Nubians been fighting each other, but FYI, certain Nubian tribes provided mercenaries & served in the Egyptian police force, just like the Greeks who also fought for the Egyptians & Persians.
    The artifacts France found there are our artifacts. We translated the language. Evryone else was to dumb to do it.
    As for the artifacts...the egyptians are too primitive to care for them.
    Last year they damaged the mask of Tut Anch Amun, which had to be repaired by german experts.
    before that they damaged the mummy of Pharaoh Ramses II and it was repaired in Paris.
    They are dumb and filthy and all this stuff is not secure there. Here it is.
    If u r so good at caring for those artifacts, then send ur experts out & train them to do it better, instead justifying holding on to their looted treasure!
    It's like if Germans loot French art from the Louvre,etc. & keep it, claiming that they could take care of it better.
    When in foreign country i´m rather friendly and nice as long it gives me what i want.
    And if they don't "give u what u want", & u in turn violate their laws, expect to get in trouble! The same in international law: don't violate the rights of others; that includes justifying aggression & plunder while blaming the victims of their inferiority vs a vis the European so-called sophistication!
    A case in point: Egyptians & Panamanians manage their strategically vital canals for decades now, despite all those French & American skepticism & doubts that they could do it.


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    Post  Aristide on Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:37 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:blubb

    Its so funny, you talk about them as if they were real humans. Very Happy

    Your entire bullshit is even more laughable when you see that you say french military is "only" nr. 5 in the world. Do you realize what this means? Anyone in the top 10 virtually has the power to destroy the world. Each one in the top
    10 is untouchable.

    As for egypt. The old Kingdom in 4th dynasty was ruled from Memphis. In North Egypt. All of their statues show that they were european.

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    Nobody denies that Egyptians later on mixed more and more with negroids and became the genetic trash they are today.

    Yes all artifacts brought to France are save here and our property and the more we get, the better. Those monkeys could never care for it. No matter what they get teached.

    They are too primitive and have very low IQ.

    We also can teach chimps. Why waste our experts to send to those shithole. Can they pay for our teachings and lessons? What can they give us in return?


    There is no law to be friendly. What i do once i got what i want or if i dont get it the way i want it? I drop the savages like a hot potato.

    They are mostly poor scum. There are harsh laws in Egypt as for which tomb are open for visit. In the valley of the queens the tomb Nefeertiri was closed for visitors.

    One of their beggar shithole officers was guarding there at dawn, we gave him a few bucks and could go in take pics. They do evrything when you throw a few cins infront their feet. Really pathetic
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:18 pm

    Anyone in the top 10 virtually has the power to destroy the world. Each one in the top 10 is untouchable.
    Not true! Remember what happened in USA on 9/11/2001?
    The UK has nukes but Argentina still invaded the Falklands which she would've kept, had her navy been stronger.
    China has a lot more strategic depth then Argentina & is stronger than France, esp. in Asia-Pacific. Ur former colony Cambodia is now de-facto her protectorate.
    Europeans don't have African style braids/wigs. The genetic studies I quoted showed that they were related to ME & N/E. African populations from the earliest times. Those faces being similar to European types means nothing as the Egyptians were mixed people even in the pre-dynastic period. They r even more similar to E. Mediterranean types. Compare these
    http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Race_Face_Plates.htm
    with these ancient Egyptians faces

    Mr. Sarkosy taking bribes from Qaddafi, a Libyan, to help his election isn't any better than begging!
    Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy was taken into police custody Tuesday over allegations he illegally accepted 50 million euros ($68.5 million) from the government of the late Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi to finance his successful 2007 presidential campaign. https://www.washingtonpost.com/

    Can they pay for our teachings and lessons? What can they give us in return?
    This attitude stinks! 1st, u rob them, claim that it's now urs, then u accuse them of not being able to care of the art they still have, & expect them to pay u to share ur expertise in doing it better. If ur an art lover, u shouldn't keep the looted art & demand compensation as it belongs to the country it was taken from & all of humanity, not France! That's why we have UNESCO, an organisation based in Paris. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO


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    Post  Aristide on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:01 pm

    No, now it is all our french property. By french law it is part of our history. We found it. We cared for it, we repaired it, we explored it. The egyptians did not care for it, let it rott away. Now that we invested in it you want we give it away. We invested resvources in it. So they either pay or fuck off.

    Of course you believe we are idiotic and throw away what we invested in.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:36 pm

    Is that all u can say? Those laws can be changed. If some1 doesn't take care of their property the way u believe they should, it's still illegal to take it away w/o compensation. They r not idiotic not to demand it back.
    France & the UK profited from them in other ways with the Suez Canal:
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2118665?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Canal#Company_rule_after_opening
    https://www.history.com/news/9-fascinating-facts-about-the-suez-canal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#History_of_the_Suez_Canal
    The volume of trade exchange between Egypt and France during the first eight months of this year amounted to $1.459bn, Minister of Trade and Industry Amr Nassar revealed during his meeting with the French Ambassador to Egypt Stefan Roumtier. Of this amount, $460m represents Egyptian exports and the remaining $999m represents imports. https://dailynewsegypt.com/2018/10/13/1-459bn-volume-of-trade-exchange-between-egypt-france-in-8-months-nassar/

    That's a $539M trade deficit in France's favor!
    https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/country-files/egypt/france-and-egypt/
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:46 pm

    Which is peanuts.

    As for the rest of your bullshit, if we found something, repaired it ect. Egypt is free to compensate us for the money it cost us to repair it.

    History is not static, by bringing those things back into light, by repairing it, by translating the language, our history is connected with it as well.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:54 pm

    Which is peanuts.
    Maybe to u, but not to them!
    Egypt is free to compensate us for the money it cost us to repair it.
    It's their choice to pay if u agree to return those artifacts. But demanding $ so they r returned is wrong. U profited from displaying & studying them.
    .. our history is connected with it as well.
    "Connected" isn't = it's ur history.
    China has more high speed rail lines than France:
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:59 pm

    Chinas railway is slower thqn TGV and bad quality. Several gargantuan crashs already.

    As for the artifacts, of course you would take what we restored. Too bad thats not going to happen. Those filthy animals have nothing in return.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:27 am

    Chinas railway is slower thqn TGV and bad quality. Several gargantuan crashs already.
    still they move Ms across greater distances & helps their economy.

    As for the artifacts, of course you would take what we restored. Too bad thats not going to happen. Those filthy animals have nothing in return.
    They didn't ask u then nor later to restore them in the 1st place after u  appropriated them w/o asking for permission to do so & still refuse to return them. It's just like if I steal ur car or boat because I could & it wasn't in good shape, renovate/maintain it, use & profit from it, & then ask u to pay me to reimburse my investment &/ still refuse to return it. That in itself stinky & filthy logic! So again, don't be blaming the victim.
    If the former colonies still pay France, she also pays USA in the form of fines: http://www.iarex.ru/articles/62917.html

    Welcome to the small world!


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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:07 am

    I cant read klingon.

    USA also pay us fines

    https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/19/apple-started-paying-15-billion-european-tax-fine/?guccounter=1
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:19 am

    Use google translator: https://translate.google.com/
    Next time, u can right click & chose translate to French/English if ur software is set up for it.
    HOW EUROPE PAYS US TRIBUTE

    That's what Americans do not take away, this talent to quickly turn a successful one-time solution into a consistently effective technology. After the United States Department of Justice managed to “squeeze the $ 18 billion Volkswagen auto concern in 2015 and later $ 425 million for Deutsche Bank, protection of legality in international transactions turned into a streamlined conveyor. Total, Alcatel, Alstom, Société générale were promoted to different, but always substantial, amounts of fines, from 338 million to 8.9 billion each. With the British Rolls-Royce, the Americans ousted more than $ 800 million.
    And no one in America is embarrassed by the fact that violations are uncovered in countries that are not subject to US jurisdiction, while for some reason the fines are transferred to the accounts of the American Justice Ministry. For example, the same Deutsche Bank was punished for the so-called mirror transactions , when certain Russian businessmen bought DB securities in rubles at its Moscow office for rubles, and almost the same day he bought the same papers from London for them in currency. The attempt of illegal withdrawal of capital abroad, bypassing the financial control of Russia is obvious, but the US Department of Justice at what?
    But since the system works, why not use it further? Moreover, business is such an ambiguous thing. Especially when you really want to win and really big money is at stake. And certainly the struggle with all sorts of illegal attracts, if the result is good for "his". The current history of the lawsuit against the European aircraft consortium Airbus is a clear confirmation of this.
    Formally, violations there really took place. From 2009 to 2013, Airbus "forgot to specify" in its official statements the services of intermediaries who ensured the conclusion of several large contracts. It is not that such activity is prohibited by law, but it is required to give their names and reflect the movement of funds paid in the form of remuneration.
    In a number of cases when various officials turned out to be intermediaries, including state officials (as, for example, in the history of Kazakhgate), it was not possible to reflect the fact and amount of bribes in tax documents. But do not leave the market for such a ridiculous reason! To "address such issues" in the structure of the consortium created the Organization for Strategy and Marketing with an annual budget of 300 million euros.
    However, according to Airbus President Tom Enders, the company stopped this practice in 2017 after an internal audit, the unit disbanded, key employees were generally dismissed, but something went wrong somewhere.
    The British Division of Anti-Fraud (SFO) and the French National Financial Prosecutor’s Office (PNF) were able to find fault with something “tax”. You can understand them, the consortium unites many legal entities in all major EU countries, making the issue of "non-reflected amounts" an internal affair of the EU investigative bodies.
    But the US Justice Department got here, as they say, just because of the arrogance of the soul. On the grounds that one of the Airbus factories is also "located" in America. But the American law enforcers literally grabbed a bulldog grip. They began to investigate in 2017, and officially notified the company about it only in the fall of 2018. Most likely, the case also ends in a fine. Its size has not yet been announced, but on the sidelines of the airline say about "several billion euros."
    As we can see, the United States pushed off an excellent conveyor to collect tribute from the European colonies. And Europe pays this tribute. Every year. And not outraged.
    It would seem that this is an everyday thing, from the category of purely economic disputes and the suppression of corruption, but in reality history has a second bottom of substantial size. If you look closely at the countries covered by the "struggle of the US Department of Justice for honest business," it turns out that for the most part European companies had prospects for them.
    In particular, for Airbus, the case has already turned into a breakdown of a number of promising deals and recall, according to various sources, from a quarter to a third of pre-orders for deliveries in future periods. Because of what the current order book of the consortium is already a quarter inferior to the size of the pre-orders from its sole and main competitor - the American Boeing. The multi-billion dollar fine will further reduce the financial capacity to improve the model range, and therefore, provide the Americans with a tangible competitive advantage.
    And so, yes, the fight against illegal financial transactions and nothing more. Absolutely invisible hand of the market. What happened to the plans of the American economic colonization of Europe, well, simply has nothing to do with it. Honestly. Mom swear.

    Publication date: 12/24/2018 15:00
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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:46 am

    I know how use google translator. I just dont bore myself with your rubbish posts old man.

    That said, we took 15 billion from apple.

    5 billion from google amd currently started the process against Amazon.

    Thats 20 billion € we got as tributes from USA just in 2018 alone.

    https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/18/apple-has-finished-paying-15-billion-european-fine/

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:02 pm

    And the USA MIC profited handsomely from ur defeats in Europe, with the Marshall Plan, & in Vietnam as our mil. intervention was conducted in those theaters: The French .. diverted the overwhelming part of their economic aid from 1948 to 1954 to their futile wars in Indochina, while the military aid Washington lavished upon Paris was also used in their equally useless and costly effort to hold on to Algeria.
    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-349-62748-6_10
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
    https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/jfks-conversion-war-why-and-how-military-industrial-complex-had-jfk-killed#close
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/12/11/war-profiteering-from-vietnam-to-iraq/
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/01/big-money-behind-war-military-industrial-complex-20141473026736533.html

    Also they used French assassins to kill JFK.
    In 2016, France exported $498B and imported $550B, resulting in a negative trade balance of $52.3B. https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/fra/

    Recently, France had a total export of $488,885,072.44 and total imports of $560,554,862.70 leading to a negative trade balance of -$71,669,790.26.  https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/FRA

    Russia benefited on the US imposed cancellation of Mistral deal as France had to return the money & pay for the breach of contract.
    Previous reports in the Russian news media put the sum at about $1.3 billion. “France has already transferred these funds,” the Kremlin news service said in a statement on its website.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/europe/france-reimburses-russia-for-warships-as-deal-becomes-casualty-of-ukraine-sanctions.html
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29060398
    https://www.ibtimes.com/failed-russian-mistral-ship-deal-will-cost-france-twice-much-paris-spent-build-2054491

    France's Le Monde estimated that value of the design documentation handed over to Moscow in the Mistral deal amounted to €220 million. The issue of technology transfer was considered an integral part of the Mistral deal for Russia from the beginning.
    ..To be frank, Moscow has received the documentation for the Mistral for free. More precisely, it received it for Cairo's money."

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201705131053576173-russia-egypt-win-out-on-mistral/

    Egypt took delivery of a second French Mistral helicopter carrier on Friday, part of a $1 billion deal signed last year.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-egypt-deals/egypt-takes-delivery-of-second-french-mistral-warship-idUSKCN11M153

    So, France lost at least $1.3B-$1B=$.3B, or $300M on it; the US won't cover this loss AFAIK.
    Others, least of all India, the largest arms importer, now know that for the most part, France is the US lap dog & can't be relied on; that will cost her future orders. And that's a fact!
    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201701281050098001-france-poland-deal-submarines/


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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:48 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:And the USA MIC profited handsomely from ur defeats in Europe, with the Marshall Plan, & in Vietnam as our mil. intervention was conducted in those theaters: The French .. diverted the overwhelming part of their economic aid from 1948 to 1954 to their futile wars in Indochina, while the military aid Washington lavished upon Paris was also used in their equally useless and costly effort to hold on to Algeria.
    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-349-62748-6_10
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
    https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/jfks-conversion-war-why-and-how-military-industrial-complex-had-jfk-killed#close
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/12/11/war-profiteering-from-vietnam-to-iraq/
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/01/big-money-behind-war-military-industrial-complex-20141473026736533.html

    Also they used French assassins to kill JFK.
    In 2016, France exported $498B and imported $550B, resulting in a negative trade balance of $52.3B. https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/fra/

    Recently, France had a total export of $488,885,072.44 and total imports of $560,554,862.70 leading to a negative trade balance of -$71,669,790.26.  https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/FRA

    Russia benefited on the US imposed cancellation of Mistral deal as France had to return the money & pay for the breach of contract.
    Previous reports in the Russian news media put the sum at about $1.3 billion. “France has already transferred these funds,” the Kremlin news service said in a statement on its website.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/europe/france-reimburses-russia-for-warships-as-deal-becomes-casualty-of-ukraine-sanctions.html
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29060398
    https://www.ibtimes.com/failed-russian-mistral-ship-deal-will-cost-france-twice-much-paris-spent-build-2054491

    Egypt took delivery of a second French Mistral helicopter carrier on Friday, part of a $1 billion deal signed last year.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-egypt-deals/egypt-takes-delivery-of-second-french-mistral-warship-idUSKCN11M153

    So, France lost at least $1.3B-$1B=$.3B, or $300M on it; the US won't cover this loss AFAIK.
    Others, least of all India, the largest arms importer, now know that for the most part, France is the US lap dog & can't be relied on; that will cost her future orders. And that's a fact!

    I think arms deals with dubious shitholes like India are questionable per se.

    We made a sweet deal with Australia worth 50 billion and you bring up such peanuts? What else will you bring up? That we dropped a potato at the supermarket?

    and what? Now we killed JFK? o.O
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:05 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Sarti#Allegations_of_involvement_in_the_assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:47 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Sarti#Allegations_of_involvement_in_the_assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

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    cool if true ha ha ha
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:10 pm

    We made a sweet deal with Australia worth 50 billion and you bring up such peanuts?
    Don't count chicks before they hatch!
    Future submarine project deadlocked as French shipbuilder digs in on $50B contract

    http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2018/09/impasse-between-france-and-australia-on.html

    Japan Offers to Build Australia’s $50 Billion Submarine Fleet If French Deal Falls Through
    http://idrw.org/will-japan-gatecrash-into-france-german-russian-party-for-indian-submarine-contract/

    Australia awards $35 billion warship deal to Britain's BAE, not France who sold FFGs to others! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FREMM_multipurpose_frigate#Export

    Also, the US sanctions on Iran r making the Airbus the Biggest Loser in that plane deal, a loss of estimated $27B!
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2017/12/14/iran-air-funding-44bn-aircraft-boeing-airbus/#34a190a34252


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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:12 pm

    Why France should sell aircrafts to an enemy country like iran is beyond me.

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