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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:33 pm

    U r not the only 1 asking this. The mods think that he's worthy enough to be here & won't hurt this forum or any1's feelings.
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:39 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    MiamiMachineShop wrote:EU sanctions are nothing, Airbus made 40 billion euro last year, Boeing made 100 billion. We do not feel a thing from EU. Miami alone has Miami Beach, Golden Beach, South Beach, those three beaches alone have real estate worth more than all of France lol. You probably could not even afford an air bnb here. Honestly we do not see anyone as Gods, we make too much money, Royal Carribean, Carnival, Norwegian and all other Intl cruise lines are based from here. Also civilian shipbuilding in South Florida is far and away from anything France has. We own boats here, French could only dream. Do you even have houses there? It looks like prison apartments with people walking or biking below because they cannot afford cars. America and France have no equivalency as far as wealth

    You messed that one up.  Airbus has $83 billion in revenue for 2018 and the vast majority of that was delivering a record number of airliners.  Boeing gets way more public welfare in defence orders which puts their airliner sales far below Airbus.  The problem with Trump's strategy is that Boeing sells twice as many airliners in the EU as Airbus sells to the US so if both ban each other, Boeing is by far the loser.

    Considering the fact that many airlines cancel Boeings and Airbus already leads the market, we see more and more hoe Boeing is pushed out of the market.
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    Post  MiamiMachineShop on Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:00 pm

    In France, there is an alternative geopolitical trend, going back to the continental line of Napoleon (whom Goethe perceived as the leader of the land integration of Europe) and vividly embodied in de Gaulle's European policy, who was looking for an alliance with Germany and creating an independent European confederation from the USA. In part, the same line inspired the Franco-German projects of Mitterrand. Be that as it may, it is hypothetically possible to imagine such a turn of events that France recognizes the supremacy of the factor of Central Europe and voluntarily accepts complicity in the geopolitical European bloc with anti-American and continental orientation. The Franco-German alliance, in any case, is the main link of Eurasian geopolitics in the continental West, provided that the interests of Central Europe, namely its autarky and geopolitical independence, are priorities here. Such a project is known as the "European Empire". The integration of Europe under the auspices of Germany as the basis of such a European Empire ideally fits into the Eurasian project and is the most desirable process in more global continental integration.

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    Post  MiamiMachineShop on Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:03 pm

    Condolences to France today after the Notre Dame burned down. It is tragic and evidence of the destruction of French culture. Following months of arson and vandalism against catholic churches, they have burned down a landmark of traditional France. Mr. Macron said today, that a part of France burned with the Notre Dame, very sad indeed. Apologies to Vladimir79, Aristide, and Isos, it is a difficult time.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:11 pm

    I hope it wasn't intentional- reportedly there was some renovation being done on the upper levels before it happened.






    Hopefully they'll rebuild it.


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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:38 pm

    Condolences to France.

    A bad omen.
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    Post  jhelb on Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:04 am

    The dolts out there can't even carry out restoration without blowing the whole joint up.

    In the past French, European media, has on a regular basis ridiculed Russia, every time such mishaps took place in Russia.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:22 pm

    Notre-Dame workers questioned as cash pours in

    On the Universalism of Notre Dame, from Muslim Arches to the Goddess of Reason


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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:17 am

    MiamiMachineShop wrote: Apologies to Vladimir79,

    Why to him I understand that damage to a great cathedral is a terrible thing regardless of its location but why apologise to Vlad specifically?

    Regardless I hope they find the filthy liberal scum responsible and make a bloody good example of them!
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:04 am

    In the past French, European media, has on a regular basis ridiculed Russia, every time such mishaps took place in Russia.

    Particularly remember that rag paper they have charly hebdo or something with the cartoon showing those Russian military band members killed when their plane crashed... makes it hard to care... especially as I am a heathen Athiest who is going to hell...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:30 am

    French Chernobyl and the fate of Byzantium
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2613256.html

    https://iz.ru/868343/vladislav-krylov/pozhar-evropy-chto-simvoliziruet-sogrevshii-sobor-parizhskoi-bogomateri

    https://iz.ru/868675/izvestiia/epokha-restavratcii-kak-rossiia-mozhet-pomoch-v-vosstanovlenii-notr-dama

    Good luck to France in recovering from this blow!
    If she couldn't safely conduct restoration of her main cathedral & prevent fire, what moral right does she have to tell others how to live?


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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:45 pm

    If she couldn't safely conduct restoration of her main cathedral & prevent fire, what moral right does she have to tell others how to live?

    What does moral have to do with it... she has a couple of robot colonial countries she controls, which is the limit of who she can tell what to do... otherwise it is dogs barking.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:49 am

    This was a world inheritage site. You are very much in foul here.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:18 am

    This was a world heritage site.
    It still is, & that's why they should've been even more careful. Negligence there is a crime, just like blowing up the Banyan Buddha statue in Afghanistan & looting/destruction of ancient art & buildings in Iraq & Syria.
    It's an omen of worse things to come, I'm afraid. Europe is losing her Christian & traditional identity, & she had it coming, after centuries of Crusades, Inquisition, colonization, & antisemitism. Bad karma!
    I'm surprised that the French Muslims &/ Jews weren't blamed for it yet by the far right.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:51 pm

    This was a world inheritage site. You are very much in foul here.

    Yeah like all the much older temples and buildings and cultures around the world european colonial powers have destroyed over the last few centuries... history lost...

    But a culture, a religion that hates me because I am a non believer... I will shed no tears for such a monument to human moral corruption.

    World heritage site... that is just a thing to get tax exemption isn't it?

    It's an omen of worse things to come, I'm afraid. Europe is losing her Christian & traditional identity, & she had it coming, after centuries of Crusades, Inquisition, colonization, & antisemitism. Bad karma!

    Indeed, they have been doing that for centuries by force intentionally around the world but now it is serious...

    No body died.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:32 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    This was a world heritage site.
    It still is, & that's why they should've been even more careful. Negligence there is a crime

    The crime was not installing a sprinkler system.
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:34 am

    Some facts here.

    Notre Dame is not just a cathedral. It is the heart of our nation and plays a central role not just in french history but in Europe in general.

    Coronation church of our kings, later place of the revolution and even in the revolution, when many churches suffered, Notre Dame survived. Later on it was coronation church
    of Napoleon.

    It stand through the I. and II. Worldwar.

    Its the center of french identity and history and a titanic symbol for western culture.

    When i heared it is on fire at monday i was in shock, so was my family. We watched all news. All people were in shock here. In Paris hundredthousands did stand and watched in horror. You
    should see teh videos when the central tower falls, how people scream.

    A day later all churches in France and our oversea regions ringed their bells in support for Notre Dame.

    But as bad as this tragedy is, we had luck. Notre Dame is on her knees, but she has not fallen.

    Her structure is largely intact. Her windows undamaged, The art and reliquia inside are also saved.

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    Over one billion € was collected for her restauration.

    Our firefighters are celebrated as heroes. Its said that 15 minutes decided about her future. Gothic cathedrals are very fragile things. They are incredible complex and as strong as they appear...a small push at wrong part and all can collapse.

    The big problem now is, that we will need many experts to repair her. In France each cathedral has her own repair team. And only very few experts exist.

    So far Germany, Russia and USA have said they will send experts in that field to support our own experts.

    I want say one thing to the russians here. I thank Russia for their support. Our nations have good and bad times...but in TV here they showed many russians placed flowers infront french embassy
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:35 pm

    The Hebrews/Jews lost their Temple twice, on the same day- 1st to the Babylonians & 2nd to the Romans; only the Western (Weeping) Wall still stands. But they survived by building synagogues everywhere they settled.
    I'm not French, but was too very upset upon hearing of the fire & hoped the damage won't be that extensive. If it was lost, the whole Western Civilization would suffer greatly. I wonder if an exact replica could be rebuilt today to stand for another 850 years.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:42 pm

    I am glad to see that the fire was mostly confined to the roof and that not all the stained-glass windows have been destroyed. I hope
    that the removal operation succeeded in getting most of the non replaceable artifacts out in the early stages of the fire.
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:18 pm

    I doubt a replica could be build. This building is art at its absolute limit.

    words cant describe it

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    What must be decided now is how to repair the damage. The roof must made new. And i think they will now use a steel roof.

    There are also many questions for what happened. There are some mysterious aspects.

    At 18:20 was a first fire alarm.

    The staff checked the roof but found no fire. The system was set on reset.

    Then 18:45 a 2nd fire alarm started and then the detected a fire in the roof. It spread quickly and within minutes it was out of control.

    Notre Dame was evacuated.

    Police and firefighter forces arrived. The area around the cathedral was locked down. Some firefighters went in and evacuated the most valuable art and reliqia.

    There are plans for such cases and tehy train that. Where is something, how get it out quickly in an emergency. The thorn crown of Jesus for example was evacuated

    Firefighters needed some time to prepare and plan the start of fighting the fire. The main goal was to protect the bell towers, if those collapsed, the entire cathedral would have fallen.

    They did an excellent job and that the building still stands is their achievement.

    But many here are very angry...Macron pays 150.000 for his private swimming pool and new luxury dishs but has no money for a sprinkler system for Notre Dame?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:46 pm

    There is already a smaller scale replica: https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/04/article/still-want-to-see-notre-dame-go-to-china/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6931573/Web-users-China-tell-people-replicated-cathedral.html
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    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:19 pm

    It is made of stones that haven't be destroyed by the fire, unless there was magma.

    The damage parts can be rebuild in 1 or 2 years if they really wanted but they want first to take money from poor poeple.

    They already colected 1 billion euros from ruch families that don't even pay their taxes in France.

    https://www.lemonde.fr/evasion-fiscale/article/2018/03/16/le-groupe-francais-de-luxe-kering-aurait-soustrait-2-5-milliards-d-euros-d-impots-selon-mediapart_5272324_4862750.html

    Pinot family haven't payed 2.5 billions of taxes to France and now playing holly guys with 100 million like we will forget.

    And now they want to collect from poor christian poeple and no one will know where this money goes. It's like Putin's datchas and the renovation of Kremlin that costed billion to russian poeple.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:45 pm

    Isos wrote:It is made of stones that haven't be destroyed by the fire, unless there was magma.

    The damage parts can be rebuild in 1 or 2 years if they really wanted but they want first to take money from poor poeple.

    They already colected 1 billion euros from ruch families that don't even pay their taxes in France.

    https://www.lemonde.fr/evasion-fiscale/article/2018/03/16/le-groupe-francais-de-luxe-kering-aurait-soustrait-2-5-milliards-d-euros-d-impots-selon-mediapart_5272324_4862750.html

    Pinot family haven't payed 2.5 billions of taxes to France and now playing holly guys with 100 million like we will forget.

    And now they want to collect from poor christian poeple and no one will know where this money goes. It's like Putin's datchas and the renovation of Kremlin that costed billion to russian poeple.

    OMG. You really believe that blood libel about "Putin's dachas". This just confirms my first hand observations on
    NATO denizens. You are all brainwashed from birth by your precious "free media" and can't engage in rational
    thought.

    I applaud the effort of the Putin administration to restore Russia's rich architectural heritage destroyed by the commie vermin.
    Every church, mansion and palace rebuilt to its former glory is at least a partial compensation for the all time historical
    crimes of these butchers. It is butcher apologists and Russia haters who try to paint this restoration as "Putin's vanity".

    Go and get F*CKED, NATO-tards. Cultural-Trotskyist useful idiots.

    Putin does not own any of those "dachas" (I guess you chauvinist c*nts think that Russian palaces are mere trifles compared
    to your "superior" shite) and will not keep them once he retires from office. The UK has plenty of provincial manors as its
    government residence houses. Where are all you hateful bleaterrs with your condemnation, eh?



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    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:26 pm

    Where are all you hateful bleaterrs with your condemnation, eh?

    Just above asshole.

    I applaud the effort of the Putin administration to restore Russia's rich architectural heritage destroyed by the commie vermin.

    I was talking about some work made inside Kremlin where some italian companies were paid more than they should have.

    Russian admistration is full of corrupted people. Even your mighty and lovely Putin said so.

    Putin does not own any of those "dachas" (I guess you chauvinist c*nts think that Russian palaces are mere trifles compared

    Well since he sleeps in those datchas and in kremlin for now 20 years and is about 70 years, we can say he owned them for a big time.

    Same for UK and french gov who get beautifull houses/flats paid by us.  Left and right are always at power and switch often so that they always have a nice life for doing nothing.

    You are all brainwashed from birth by your precious "free media" and can't engage in rational
    thought.

    I think my comments in this forum prove that I can be more rational and critical than your stupid pro russian opinion.

    You should stop sputnik.com for a time.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:47 am

    Perhaps they will flatten it completely and put something modern up... all glass and concrete... and no soul... that would better reflect the EU and western civilisation... and for more realism they could make poor people in Africa pay for it...

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