France and Germany are not partners as far as I know and Turkey has not yet left.magnumcromagnon wrote:But does the cost factor in France, Germany, and effectively Turkey leaving the program?
The cost estimates for all the program would be affected by increase or reduction of total number of orders, but there have been new customers as well so I am not sure what is the currently expected number of aircraft.
My feeling is that Trump came with his "deal mastery" threatening to cut the program and then lower prices were forced on Lockheed and P&W, which had been probably ripping off the DoD in previous LRIPs. So much for free market economy...GarryB wrote:
I suspect the cost of operational use and continued problems with the aircraft has led to them reducing their profit margin, and more important those charts show projected prices... when countries reduce their order numbers that will normally have the reverse effect.
So with the price going down and orders going down... better watch out for material substitution and simple fraud.
The Airframe life was supposed to be 8,000 hours and is actually only about 2,000 hours, which is going to effect lifetime costs, because these birds are going to die young.
APUC and PAUC are projected prices, LRIP prices are not.
Airframe life issues were with some of the early manufactured units, not with the current ones AFAIK