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    Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

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    Big_Gazza

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:55 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Hole wrote:The United shipbuilding Company is state owned. The problem is the Russian Navy doesn´t have an infinite amount of money. And they got a lot of programmes running, all sorts of ships and submarines. More than 100 are being build, fitted out or tested. Most other countries have three or four programmes. Englang has build one carrier and a few destroyers in the last years. Nothing else. No frigates or submarines. In the next years they will spend most of their money on new SSBN´s.

    Well said, and it is this fact that accounts for much of the delays (along engine supply issues and a re-evaluation of priorities).  With so many irons in the fire, each project has a set cash flow under the national re-armament plan.  If the shipyard runs into issues, the solution is to extend the build to absorb delays and defer completion.  Russia refuses to combat problems by throwing money at it like we do in the West, reasoning correctly that such will only encourage corruption and do little to solve anything.

    Personally, I think this is a exactly the way an MIC should be run.  State-owned enterprises competing with each other in terms of price, quality and delivery, and mandated by the State to deliver at the best terms to the public need.  Workers get paid, execs get bonuses based on meeting KPIs (not based on profit but on efficiency and delivering to plan), and all profits are invested back into the enterprise (and supplemented by gov-appointed funds for specific upgrades).  Russia isn't there yet by a country mile, but the trajectory is promising.

    How has it tried to solve Almaz antey's shitshow other than throwing money at their lobbyists?

    You have any evidence that the Rus gov is "throwing money" at Almaz-Antei to solve the "shit-show" as you describe it (I presume you are referring to Poliment-Redut and the apparent issues with mid-course guidance updates with the long range missile variant)? Can't rule out that AA are getting extra payments, possibly for changes to scope/spec, but they will be expected to draw on their own financial resources to deliver on their obligations.

    BTW no-one throws money at "lobbyists" as by definition, they are paid by the enterprise they are representing.
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    Hole

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Hole on Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:29 am

    Almaz-Antey is state-owned so even in the worst case it would be one part of the russian state (Defence Ministry) throwing money to another part of the russian state.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  LMFS on Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:52 pm

    Very interesting interview with Sergei Nevksy from Nevsky Design Bureau about Kuznetsov and Ivan Gren

    Original:
    http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/5426463

    Translated:
    https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftass.ru%2Farmiya-i-opk
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  George1 on Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:59 pm

    Annual report of OAO "Shipbuilding Plant named after the October Revolution"

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3310548.html

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  hoom on Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 pm

    Official start of work for the drydock at Zvezda https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3340572.html
    (CGI)

    Apparently they're 3yrs ahead of schedule, already started work on first Aframax tanker & some supply vessels
    Google Translate wrote:
    To date, in the portfolio of SSC "Zvezda" orders 26 vessels:
    - four multifunctional supply vessels of the ice class;
    - ten Aframax tankers;
    - ten arctic shuttle tankers with a deadweight of 42,000 tons;
    - Arctic shuttle tanker with a deadweight of 69 thousand tons;
    - shallow icebreaker.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  Isos on Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:27 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1048890112623484928

    Fresh pics of warships being build in Zaliv shipbuilding yard.

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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  PTURBG on Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:30 pm

    Isos wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1048890112623484928

    Fresh pics of warships being build in Zaliv shipbuilding yard.
    Seems that there is very little progress since spring 2017.
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  LMFS on Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:51 pm

    Will Rosneft Boost Russian Naval Construction?

    https://russiandefpolicy.blog/2018/09/25/will-rosneft-boost-russian-naval-construction/

    Thoughts? Is this merely for improvement of civilian shipbuilding industry or will it maybe be capable of addressing big military projects too?
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    Re: Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:11 pm

    Dual purpose as it's said nuclear subs can or is supposed to undergo refit at Zvezda shipyard.

    The orders currently are all civillian vessels. But huge prospects for military.

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