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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:43 am

    Well they can claim anything they like... how can you prove them wrong?

    Of course the secret is in the title of the website... it is in their national interests to be the best... that way they can bludgeon others into submission and maintain their economic and political position.
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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:05 pm

    Sure, but... How can someone fool himself in such a way? The whole doctrin of the armed forces of Amiland is: drop a bomb on it! Than you go around and claim that your Army is the best? Ridiculous.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:25 pm

    Hole wrote:Sure, but... How can someone fool himself in such a way? The whole doctrin of the armed forces of Amiland is: drop a bomb on it! Than you go around and claim that your Army is the best? Ridiculous.

    Well, by including France they sort of discredit the whole list.

    At the end of the day it is NATO's nuclear weapons that make it a threat. It's conventional capability is grossly exaggerated based
    on propaganda adventures like the Iraq war. I fully expect NATO to use nuclear weapons first in any war on Russia since they know
    that there is no way they could win a conventional war against it. NATO is also composed of sheep who believe that it was the
    western alliance, i.e. the USA, that won the war against Nazi Germany. Little details like the fact that 80% of Germany's resources
    were spent on the eastern (i.e. Soviet) front are systematically ignored. The only war that the USA has won against a worthy opponent
    was the war against Japan and it had to use nuclear weapons to do it.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:46 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Hole wrote:Sure, but... How can someone fool himself in such a way? The whole doctrin of the armed forces of Amiland is: drop a bomb on it! Than you go around and claim that your Army is the best? Ridiculous.

    Well, by including France they sort of discredit the whole list.

    At the end of the day it is NATO's nuclear weapons that make it a threat.   It's conventional capability is grossly exaggerated based
    on propaganda adventures like the Iraq war.   I fully expect NATO to use nuclear weapons first in any war on Russia since they know
    that there is no way they could win a conventional war against it.   NATO is also composed of sheep who believe that it was the
    western alliance, i.e. the USA, that won the war against Nazi Germany.   Little details like the fact that 80% of Germany's resources
    were spent on the eastern (i.e. Soviet) front are systematically ignored.    The only war that the USA has won against a worthy opponent
    was the war against Japan and it had to use nuclear weapons to do it.

    Japan a worthy oponent lol! what next a 1950s style alien invasion?

    Just look at Jap equipment and how badly they lost in Manchuria.

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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:32 pm

    Using nucelar weapons is NATO tactic from the beginning.

    The fight against Japan was mostly air and sea battles. At the end of the war Russia was fighting more Japanese (in China) than Amiland had ever met in their battles.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:38 pm

    Hole wrote:Using nucelar weapons is NATO tactic from the beginning.

    The fight against Japan was mostly air and sea battles. At the end of the war Russia was fighting more Japanese (in China) than Amiland had ever met in their battles.

    Indeed. Soviet forces routed the 1 million strong Japanese Kwantung army. The USA had Iwo Jima and other such ground battles.

    As for "worthy", I am comparing to Iraq in 1990. And the USA was not all that back in 1940s. They had to adapt to fight Japan
    and did not just steam roll it.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:16 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Indeed.   Soviet forces routed the 1 million strong Japanese Kwantung army.    The USA had Iwo Jima and other such ground battles.

    As for "worthy", I am comparing to Iraq in 1990.   And the USA was not all that back in 1940s.   They had to adapt to fight Japan
    and did not just steam roll it.  

    The point being that the US took forever to make gains against the Jap army wheras the Soviets just rolled over it.
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    Post  Sprut-B on Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:40 pm

    Hole wrote:Did someone see this aritcle in National Idiots... ur, Interest about the best armies in 2030?
    Best five armies: Russia, China, India, France (Yes, the frog eaters. Their whole army has the size of one russian Division!) and the best of them all... wait for it, you guessed it, Amiland!!!!

    I mean... the russian army is superior in:

    Tanks
    Artillery
    Air defence
    EW
    NBC troops
    Engineer troops
    Logistics

    How could someone than claim the Ami Army is better? Cooler sun glasses or what?

    National Idiots are saints in comparison to sites like FoxtortAlpha. Just read this horseshit article about new Russian nuclear-powered cruise-missile from butthurt US veterans.
    https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/putins-nuclear-powered-cruise-missile-is-a-rehash-of-an-1823588286

    Also in YouTube there are some shitty military dick-measuring videos are been made by NATO fanboy channels like Binkov's Battleground. Even though in all of his dick-measuring videos Western military always wins, people still fall for his cherry picked stuffs & praise him for being neutral lol.
    https://youtu.be/gymiFY_efP4
    https://youtu.be/kONMKmWQyE8
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    Post  Hole on Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:13 pm

    If i watch something like this, my brain hurts.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:21 am

    Why do they do it?

    It is the full kool aide programme... we are powerful and when we are undemocratic and force other people to do what suits us it is because it is better for everyone for us to be in charge... imagine if China was in charge... or Russia...

    Ignoring the fact that they are not trying to take charge they are just trying to get equality with the west... the west does not share power however.

    If they had a hard critical look at their own actions... how would they be able to sleep at night?

    They can't change it... they have no power within the system they support.

    Diplomacy is too slow and requires concessions... violence is faster and easier when you spent all this time and money building up enormous forces... read my signature...
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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:22 am

    GarryB wrote:Why do they do it?

    It is the full kool aide programme... we are powerful and when we are undemocratic and force other people to do what suits us it is because it is better for everyone for us to be in charge... imagine if China was in charge... or Russia...

    Ignoring the fact that they are not trying to take charge they are just trying to get equality with the west... the west does not share power however.

    If they had a hard critical look at their own actions... how would they be able to sleep at night?

    They can't change it... they have no power within the system they support.

    Diplomacy is too slow and requires concessions... violence is faster and easier when you spent all this time and money building up enormous forces... read my signature...

    Aside from a small minority of rational thinkers who do not follow the fake stream media like sheep, the "west" (aka NATO) is
    composed of masses of brainwashed people who are raised from birth on a diet of national chauvinism. Even if it has PC characteristics
    it is still a nationalist variant based on "good us" vs. "bad them". This black and white image of the world is drilled into the heads
    of NATO citizens (aka 1984 proles) day in and day out in every relevant topic. Humans have mental weaknesses and are prone to
    training like Pavlov's dogs. Aside from the few de facto dissidents that think from themselves, the majority reacts spasmodically
    via conditioned reflexes.

    This training, makes NATO a menace to humanity. NATO is built on European colonial powers who still think that they have some
    sort of "white man's burden" to "civilize the savages". Of course this includes Russia, which was never really part of the European
    club. The club resented Russia for having access to vast resources which they had to sail around the world to grab themselves.
    You can see the current anti-Russian mentality mirrored back in the 1880s and earlier. They even produce the same retarded
    octopus caricature. Even if PC no longer lofts "whites" onto pedestals, the underlying template is there.

    This exceptionalism syndrome is related to colonial brutality. It allows the masses who benefit from colonial rape to feel good about
    themselves and have no doubts about their own virtue and good moral standing. This delusion is very grotesque. If you think
    I am being extreme, consider the Skripal hoax and the hate hysteria against Russia. No proof is ever needed, just "proof by accusation".
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:02 pm

    You people do realise that Eropeans are just barbarians pretending to be civilized just look back to the days of the Roman Empire the society wich they copied in order to advance past the tribal stage.

    And they could never abandon thier violent tribal tendencies Europeans only stopped killing themselvs over menial things once the Soviet Union showed up and it was band together or die.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:49 pm

    First public rehearsal in Alabino of 2018 Victory Day Parade

    Photo report from the first public rehearsal of 2018 Moscow Victory Day Parade in Alabino. The rehearsal took place on April 6th 2018 in Alabino training ground which is the exact model of the Red square.
    33 parade units from all branches of Russian Armed Forces and more than 130 vehicles take part in the Parade this year, the total number of servicemen involved is more than 12,500.
    The following vehicles will take part in 2018 Moscow parade for the first time: BMPT serial model, Typhoon K-53949, 9K331M Tor-M2, SBM VPK-233136, Patrol KAMAZ-435029, Ural-VV, snowmobile TTM-1901-40, Uran-6 and Uran-9 UGVs, ATV AM1 and UAZ-23632-148-64 Pickup.

    http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Rehearsal-in-Alabino-06April2018/

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    Post  Hole on Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:05 pm

    No Buk-M3.
    No new Pantsir version.
    No Uragan-1M.
    No T-90M/T-80BVM.
    cry

    But... first pictures of the rehearsal!
    cheers sunny Very Happy
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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:19 am

    Military vehicles for Victory Day parade have arrived in Moscow

    The column has been redeployed from the training site in the Moscow Region’s Alabino to the temporary site

    MOSCOW, April 21. /TASS/. The convoy of military vehicles that will take part in the Victory Day parade on Moscow’s Red Square on May 9, has arrived at a temporary site in Moscow, press service of Russia’s Defense Ministry said.

    "The column convoy that is going to take part in the Victory Day parade on Red Square on May 9, has been redeployed from the training site in the Moscow Region’s Alabino to the temporary site in Moscow," the ministry said.

    The convoy of more than 100 wheeled military vehicles includes Tigr infantry mobility vehicles, BTR-82A armored infantry fighting vehicles, Iskander-M mobile short-range ballistic missile systems and YARS intercontinental ballistic missile systems, Pantsir-S and S-400 air defense systems and Typhoon Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) armored vehicles.

    The column of track machines has T-34-85 and T-72BZ tanks, BMP-3, BMD-4M and BMD-MDM amphibious infantry fighting vehicles, Msta-S and Koalitsiya self-propelled howitzers and Buk-M2 and Tor-M2 surface-to-air missile systems.


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    Post  franco on Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:03 pm

    Artillery upgrades

    https://russiandefpolicy.blog/2018/04/29/upgunning-artillery/
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    Post  GarryB on Tue May 01, 2018 3:00 am

    The range given for Rockets is wrong...

    122mm Grad rockets reach about 40km, as do the 220mm Uragan... though with much heavier payloads, while the 300mm Smerch rockets of original production reached the 70km mentioned (and weighed 800kg) while the later models weighed 815kgs and could reach 90km.

    There is plenty of talk about wings being used to extend range to 120-150km and beyond...
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:28 am

    Russia beefs up western border with 70 new military units

    More than 350 surprise checks have been held in the Western Military District since 2016

    MOSCOW, July 24. /TASS/. Over 70 military units and formations have been set up in Russia’s Western Military District since 2016 and the troops have received about 5,000 new and upgraded weapon systems, Defense Minister Army General Sergei Shoigu said on Tuesday.

    "The situation developing in the western strategic direction requires us to constantly improve the troops’ combat structure and the system of their stationing. For these purposes, over 70 large units and military formations have been set up, including two divisions and three brigades," Shoigu told the Defense Ministry’s board meeting.

    "About 5,000 new and modernized weapon systems have been delivered to the troops, which has helped to increase their provision with modern armament from 39% to 54%," the defense minister said.

    The necessary infrastructure is being created to accommodate troops and more than 350 facilities are expected to be put into operation until the end of the year, he noted.

    More than 350 surprise checks have been held in the Western Military District since 2016, which have shown "the qualitative growth of the troops’ preparedness level and confirmed their readiness for accomplishing assigned missions," the defense minister stressed.


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    Post  franco on Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:25 am

    One person was killed and three were wounded on the night of August 27 after a conflict between servicemen and local residents in a cafe at Petrovsky Zavod Zabaikalsky Krai station, the head of Petrovsk-Zabaikalsky, Alexander Taranov, told the Chita.ru correspondent on August 27.
    "A military train arrived, and the soldiers ran to the cafe near the station. And there the local guys celebrated their birthday. It turned out a quarrel, two soldiers were cut, they ran back, jumped into the hospital wagon. Local behind them, and there is a sentry. Up shot, but they did not believe, apparently, that they would shoot, and jerked farther to the car. A sentinel is one corpse, one wounded, "said Taranov.
    The head of the city specified that the murdered citizen was connected with the convicted persons. After the incident, the echelon with the military moved on.

    Those who attacked the military train at the Petrovsky Zavod railway station in Transbaikalia had connections with the criminal world, Interfax was told in the Petrovsk-Zabaikalsky district uniform dispatch service (EDDS).
    "Zhdanchik, who was killed by the nickname of 1989, was an" inspector "(coordinator of criminal groups - IF) in the district, he celebrated his birthday with his friends at the cafe near the station.The company had a conflict with the military, who went into the store, break through to the echelon, because of what the sentry opened fire, "- said the agency interlocutor.
    According to him, as a result of the incident, the birthday boy was killed, another person was wounded.

    I hope the watchman did everything according to the rules, and everything will be fine with him.

    UPD. The main military investigation department reports :

    It was preliminary established that the personnel and military equipment of military unit 28331 in the military echelon followed the training ground "Tsugol" to participate in the exercise. About 22 hours the train stopped at Petrovsky Plant Petrovsk-Zabaikalsky District, Transbaikal Region. In accordance with the requirements of the charter, a guard is set up to guard the military echelon.
    At about 1 o'clock in the morning about 10 people approached the military echelon and began throwing watchmen with stones. Despite the fact that the servicemen in voice and warning shots told the attackers that if they continue to advance to the protected facility they will be forced to open fire, the unknowns continue their unlawful actions.
    As a result of the use of weapons, one of the attackers was injured, from which he died. It is established that the deceased, previously convicted, was in a state of intoxication.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:41 am

    Story I read was that the son of the local crime boss was celebrating his 29th birthday and decided to go and inspect the new loot train entering his territory... he didn't follow instructions from the guard and go shot...
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:50 pm

    Troops in west Russia to use advanced air reconnaissance drone for first time in drills

    The control check of UAV units of a Special Operations brigade from the Western Military District involves over 15 unmanned aerial vehicles

    MOSCOW, October 22. /TASS/. Teams of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) from Special Operations Forces of Russia’s Western Military District will use the advanced Granat-4 air reconnaissance drone in drills in the Tambov Region for the first time, the District’s press office reported on Monday.

    "The servicemen will move as part of combat groups to the designated areas and accomplish the required standards for preparing the drone for its launch, loading electronic maps, providing target acquisition and guidance. During the air reconnaissance, the servicemen will search for engineering fortifications and combat hardware of a notional enemy whose actions will be simulated by reconnaissance units," the District’s press office said.

    Overall, the control check of UAV units of a Special Operations brigade from the Western Military District involves more than 15 unmanned aerial vehicles, including Eleron, Grusha and Orlan-10 drones.

    The Granat-4 is a Russian multipurpose drone designed to conduct tactical reconnaissance of the terrain, carry out patrol and observation flights, search and rescue operations. The drone is equipped with optical and infrared cameras and can be furnished with electronic warfare equipment. The drone can fly for six hours at a speed of up to 140 km/h.


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    Post  George1 on Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:59 pm

    Sunday morning didn't start equally calm for everyone. The military stationed in the Volgograd and Rostov regions were alarmed. ...

    From the ground and from the air: on Prudboi, the battalions of the Southern Military District were up against each other (sorry Google translate).

    More than two thousand soldiers gathered at the Prudboy training ground in the Volgograd region to work out the skills of combat with the enemy. Today’s exercises have become unique in their own way - for the first time at the training grounds, the battalions of the Southern Military District trained on each other.

    Motorized riflemen in conjunction with tank and artillery units destroyed a total of about two thousand targets imitating aircraft, armored vehicles and the living force of a conditional enemy.

    According to Vadim Astafyev, the exercises at Prudboi will continue until the end of this week. They employ four thousand soldiers, a thousand weapons, combat and special equipment, including infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3, T-90A tanks, self-propelled artillery guns 2S19-M1, and armored personnel carriers BTR-80, as well as Su-24M front-line bombers and Mi-8 AMTSh and Mi-28 “Night Hunters” transport and assault helicopters.

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    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:42 pm

    "Steel Monster".150th Idritsa-Berlin Motorized Rifle Division.

    The division is part of the 8th Combined Arms Army of South.Mil.Dist. (REACTIVATED in 2017). Russia finishes the re-activation of the legendary 150th "Idritsa-Berlin" Motorized Rifle Division with almost 300 tanks instead of the usual 190 tanks.

    Usual Russian motorized-rifle division has three motorized rifle 'polks' with 40 tanks each and one tank 'polk' (94 tanks). However, newly re-activated 150th 'Idritsa-Berlin' motor-rifle division will have TWO tank polks and two 'motostrelkovyy polks' with enforced tank battalion (around 50 tanks each instead of usual 40). Main tank: T-72B3. The total amount of tanks of the division: at least 268-288 tanks.
    Of course, the division will also have artillery and air defense polks (regiment), reconnaissance and communications battalions. Main air defense: mobile Tor-M2U.
    The flag of this division was put on Reichstag building in April 1945 and appears on each Victory Day military parade (a copy of it).

    Along with the recently reactivated "Black Knife Division" (off.name "10th Guards Uralsko-Lvovskaya Volunteer Tank Division"), the 150th Idritsa-Berlin should assist the DPR and LPR Republics in case of Ukraine's attack.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:45 am

    The flag raising over Berlin unit.....I wonder if there's a message Smile
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    Post  dino00 on Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:52 pm

    Russian Army Receives First 6 Next-Generation Mine Clearing Vehicles - Defense Ministry


    The Russian Army on Tuesday received the first six BMR-3MA next-generation mine clearing vehicles, Russia's Defense Ministry said.
    "The vehicle is designed on the basis of the T-90A tank.

    As part of the state defense order, the manufacturer handed six vehicles over to the Russian Defense Ministry," the statement read.

    The new vehicle is mainly used to clear roads from mines while escorting convoys. It is equipped with TMT-S mine plows as well as mine detection sets, according to the ministry.

    BMR-3MA can accommodate two members of the crew as well as three paratroopers

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