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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:49 am



    Interesting video of the new RUssian military headquaters ?
    THe building looks very high tech.. and its seems Putin takes very seroiusly the possibility of a
    war in Ukraine , and or a limited one against the west because of the militarization of the borders.





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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:42 pm

    Its nice to have from time to time confirmations of major purchases specialy after major geopolitical/political/economy events and in that regard Very Happy

    Ground forces of the Russian Federation until 2020 will receive more than 5,000 new and upgraded about 6,000 samples of armored military vehicles, as well as about 14 thousand units of modern automotive engineering samples.

    He added that for equipping military units and formations of the Ground Forces in addition to new equipment planned to buy the upgraded T-72B3, infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3, modernized BMP-2, BTR-82A. Commander in chief also noted that for the Army restored the BMP-3 and BTR-90.

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    5000 new armort
    6000 modernized armor
    14 000 trucks

    by 2020 russia
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:45 pm

    I think T-72B3s were preferred than new T-90s. To start BTR-90 production hasnt any sense for me since soon Boomerang series will enter service
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:49 pm

    George1 wrote:I think T-72B3s were preferred than new T-90s. To start BTR-90 production hasnt any sense for me since soon Boomerang series will enter service

    There are lots of T-72B already avaible that can be modernized to B3 standard and why notspare some money that can be than thrown on Armata if the machince is good enough.
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:26 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    George1 wrote:I think T-72B3s were preferred than new T-90s. To start BTR-90 production hasnt any sense for me since soon Boomerang series will enter service

    There are lots of T-72B already avaible that can be modernized to B3 standard and why notspare some money that can be than thrown on Armata if the machince is good enough.

    Since the last reports that Armata is overprized i think they are doing that on purpose, purchasing T-72B3/90 while overtime UVZ has to lower the price for Armata otherwise they won't sell it. High cost of modern equipment is most of the time the reason why always new modern technologies arrive in active service many years behind their completion and combat readiness, not all but very often.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:15 am

    Since the last reports that Armata is overprized i think they are doing that on purpose, purchasing T-72B3/90 while overtime UVZ has to lower the price for Armata

    UVZ upgrades the tanks and builds the new ones.

    Upgrading existing tanks with new systems developed for the Armata makes sense as larger production runs means cheaper production over time and getting new technology into service will improve training.

    New comms and systems in the upgraded vehicles means introduction of armata is less urgent, and soldier can train and get experience with night and all weather combat.

    also communicating with artillery and CAS aircraft (fixed wing and rotary) is a new skill they can learn down to tactical level.

    Hopefully with Ratnik - tanks and IFVs and UAVs and Havocs and Hokums and Frogfoot aircraft and rocket and tube artillery vehicles can all share a digital view of the target with the troops on the ground and the troops can highlight enemy positions and guide firepower much more accurately than before.

    With the digital communications in place they can practise now on T-90Ms and upgraded T-72s and BMP-3Ms and BMD-4Ms so that when the next gen vehicles are available they will be ready and the cost of the neat extras will have gone down a little with mass production.

    Remember the long range optics and radar and other equipment on the armata MBT will also be deployed on the Kurganets and Boomerang and Typhoon MBT too.
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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:13 am

    +1 Thanks

    Where the heck did you found those?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:01 am

    Werewolf wrote:+1 Thanks

    Where the heck did you found those?

    MP.net, in the Russian military photos thread...the only reason to ever check that site out...I stay no more than 3 minutes on the website at any given time.
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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:08 am

    Found this on the net a suppossed T-90 modification testbed.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:13 am

    Mp.net stole those photos from Otvaga.

    And yes, finally photos of long rumored "Trezubets" and the better known "Kerner".
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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:24 am

    TR1 wrote:Mp.net stole those photos from Otvaga.

    And yes, finally photos of long rumored "Trezubets" and the better known "Kerner".

    I thought 3UBR8 is Kerner or 11?
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:39 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Mp.net stole those photos from Otvaga.

    And yes, finally photos of long rumored "Trezubets" and the better known "Kerner".

    I thought 3UBR8 is Kerner or 11?

    Yes UBR8, UBR11 is Trezubets. Not a brand new round mind you....
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:32 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    Interesting video of the new RUssian military headquaters ?  
    THe building looks very high tech.. and its seems Putin takes very seroiusly the possibility of a
    war in Ukraine , and or a limited one against the west because of the militarization of the borders.






    After watching this video.. i was wondering..

    1)IF that building is the equivalent to Russia Pentagon?

    2)Also wondering if Russia have "Secret BUnkers"/locations/ alternative facilities underground that
    Russia can use in case of a war that few people is aware ?





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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:27 am

    New 30 000 Grunts/per year simulatiir will be completed in two moths thumbsup

    Russia will complete combat training center in Mulino without Rheinmetall
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:55 am

    A contribution from our very own Cap'n Caz:



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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:16 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:

    Interesting video of the new RUssian military headquaters ?  
    THe building looks very high tech.. and its seems Putin takes very seroiusly the possibility of a
    war in Ukraine , and or a limited one against the west because of the militarization of the borders.






    After watching this video.. i was wondering..

    1)IF that building is the equivalent to Russia Pentagon?

    2)Also wondering if Russia have "Secret BUnkers"/locations/ alternative facilities underground that
    Russia can use in case of a war that few people is aware ?  


    If we knew of secret bunkers, it wouldn't be so secret, now would it? pirat

    That said, I imagine they do as there were plenty "discovered" by population after end of cold war. Technically, the metro stations would act as bunkers. There is still rumor of Metro 2 station (where the creators of Metro 2033 got idea from) exist and it wouldn't faze me if there are underground military complexes built into the mountains of various locations through out Russia. Pakistan has an airforce base built into some mountains, Nazi Germany built the V2 Rockets in a mountain complex, that even had a train line going to it, USA has Cheyenne Mountain (Where my father got his orders from when he worked for the airforce). Rumors fly since the 90's of Mount Yamantau in Russia being military bases holding couple of garrisons and being a military closed town for 30,000 people.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:51 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    If we knew of secret bunkers, it wouldn't be so secret, now would it? pirat

    That said, I imagine they do as there were plenty "discovered" by population after end of cold war.  Technically, the metro stations would act as bunkers.  There is still rumor of Metro 2 station (where the creators of Metro 2033 got idea from) exist and it wouldn't faze me if there are underground military complexes built into the mountains of various locations through out Russia.  Pakistan has an airforce base built into some mountains, Nazi Germany built the V2 Rockets in a mountain complex, that even had a train line going to it, USA has Cheyenne Mountain (Where my father got his orders from when he worked for the airforce).  Rumors fly since the 90's of Mount Yamantau in Russia being military bases holding couple of garrisons and being a military closed town for 30,000 people.

    SHould be fun to visit one bunker of those.. specially in Russia what they have hidden there.. Smile
    And yes you are right.. the Subway can effectively operate as a bunker for civilians..if they are deep enough and it will protect them. since nukes are usually detonated a hundreds meters above air.. to cover a bigger area. Will be very powerful if Russia could expand its subway and create one in all major cities.. that will definitively guarantee that
    most people will survive in case a lunatic NATION choose to drop nukes at Russia.. One have to be prepared for the worst even if never happens.

    The only thing i found in youtube was Kapustin Yar ,that apparently is a Soviet secret base with underground
    bunkers and some believe that they still use today.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Cpt Caz on Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:04 am

    Viktor wrote:New 30 000 Grunts/per year simulatiir will be completed in two moths thumbsup

    Russia will complete combat training center in Mulino without Rheinmetall

    Great news! Honestly, I have to hand it to Tranzas, they really picked up the slack quickly after Rheinmetall pulled out. Very impressive!

    Now if you don't mind Viktor, I'm going to steal this and post it over on MP.Net. Very Happy

    magnumcromagnon wrote:A contribution from our very own Cap'n Caz:

    Credit for the photos goes to user "cochevnik" from the Otvaga2004 forums. The weapons are from his units own collection.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:34 am

    Russia’s Military Modernization Under President Putin

    Russia’s ongoing military transformation became apparent in 2014

    Jan 15, 2015 Maxim Pyadushkin | Aviation Week & Space Technology
    http://aviationweek.com/defense/russia-s-military-modernization-under-president-putin

    Although the threat of global conflict seemed to dissipate with the end of the Cold War, the restoration of Russia’s military might have been on Vladimir Putin’s agenda from the very beginning. He came to power in 2000, when the armed forces relied on the remnants of Soviet arsenals due to the sharp decrease in military expenditures in the 1990s.

    But Russia faced regional threats to its national interests in the post-Soviet era as well as challenges from insurgents on the North Caucasus. The successful second Chechen War in the early 2000s lent vast public support for Putin’s rule.

    At the same time, it showed that the country’s armed forces—a Cold War-era mobilization giant—could not respond quickly to local threats. The initial plan called for two different forces—troops constantly at the ready along with traditional mobilization units. But in 2008, the mixed results of the five-day war with Georgia over the breakaway republics Abkhazia and South Ossetia triggered the more radical transformation of the Russian military into a smaller, but more effective force.

    The reform of Russia’s military, officially launched in October 2008, downsized the armed forces. The structure shifted from four tiers to three. In 2010, Russia reduced the number of military districts to four from six, with their planned transformation into strategic commands: west, south, central and east. And lean units, intended to be fully deployed only during wartime, were merged into full-size constant-readiness formations. Concurrently, Russia’s major rapid deployment force—airborne troops—were strengthened both in numbers and with new equipment. They were complemented by a special operation forces command founded in 2012.

    The new look of Russia’s military might became visible in spring 2014 when the armed forces managed to very quickly and secretly move troops to Crimea; later they would concentrate about 80,000 troops on the border with Ukraine. Another example of quick operational deployment is in the Arctic, where Russia has restored a military base. Its air force has also undertaken worldwide strategic deterrence missions, flying over the North, Norwegian, Mediterranean, Baltic and Black seas as well as over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans.

    Increased military spending accompanied the organizational transformation. Profits from oil prices enabled the Russian government to quickly increase the military budget in the second half of the 2000s. The defense ministry budget increased nearly four-fold—from 574 billion rubles ($9.1 billion) in 2007 to 2.1 trillion rubles in 2013.

    Russia’s 10-year rearmament program through 2010 was estimated at 2.4 trillion rubles; the current procurement plan for 2011-20 has a budget of 19 trillion rubles. The defense ministry is asking for 30 billion rubles for rearmament through 2025, a plan expected to be approved this year.

    Along with improved training and remuneration, the expanded budgets allowed the military to replenish their arsenals. As a result, the Russian defense industry began to concentrate on deliveries for the national armed forces, in contrast with the 1990s and early 2000s, when export contracts provided the major source of income for the defense manufacturers here.

    Strategic forces are a major focus area. In 2014, they received 38 intercontinental ballistic missiles, including 22 submarine-launched types. The defense ministry deployed three new regiments armed with Yars mobile ICBMs, one Borei-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine and seven modernized Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95MS strategic bombers.

    The air force received 142 new fixed-wing aircraft in 2014, reports the defense ministry. This figure includes 53 Sukhoi Su-30 and Su-35 multirole fighters, 16 Su-34 bombers, 28 transport and training aircraft and 18 upgraded MiG-31BM interceptors. The force also received 135 rotorcraft including 46 attack helicopters and 72 transports as well as seven S-400 long-range air defense systems. The ministry also reported deliveries of 179 unmanned aircraft.

    Development of future weapons that can bring the armed forces to a new level of quality is being financed. This includes the new Sarmat heavy ballistic missile, a future strategic bomber designed under the PAK DA program, new transport aircraft and airborne weapons. This year the air force has started evaluation tests of the fifth-generation Sukhoi T-50 fighter developed under the PAK FA program. The first order for this type is expected to be placed this year after procurement plans through 2025 are approved. By 2020, air defense is expected to incorporate an S-500 surface-to-air missile system that will have anti-ballistic defense capabilities.

    A version of this article appears in the January 15-February 1, 2015 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:08 am

    Transas is going to complete the training centres and supply the lasers needed for the simulation system.

    Apparently they also want at least three more simulation centres... one for each military district and they want to link them together so they can work as one big super combat sim for the Russian military...

    I wonder if they will open a civilian centre and sell tickets to play... you can play op forces... Smile

    It is likely that special units like the VDV might get their own systems and I suspect aviation and naval systems could be on the cards as well as that would promote cooperation between the branches... and make the sims more realistic.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:17 pm

    Nice thumbsup

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Kimppis on Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:25 am

    Austin wrote:Russia’s Military Modernization Under President Putin

    Russia’s ongoing military transformation became apparent in 2014

    Jan 15, 2015 Maxim Pyadushkin | Aviation Week & Space Technology
    http://aviationweek.com/defense/russia-s-military-modernization-under-president-putin

    OMFG those comments... Some of the worst ones I've seen and that's a MAJOR accomplishment.

    "The Russian economy was toast long before western sanctions and the collapse in oil revenues began to bite. Very, very, little of the annual investments in new military assets announced by Putin were delivered. Forget new fighters - he can't even afford to fill up the tanks of the old ones."

    Readers of aviationweek are clearly experts on the Russian military. Rolling Eyes How can you be so clueless!? "Forget new fighters" - over 100 new aircraft delivered last year...


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:58 pm

    fairly good article


    Capabilities of the Russian ground forces
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