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    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:52 am

    LMFS wrote:The higher VLS cells (the ones close to the bridged) are for Kalibr IMHO

    Hmm... on second thoughts you're right, but why haven't the model builders used hatch covers that resemble the UKSK? A little sloppy for what should be a promotional model....
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:32 am

    Hole wrote:Grave Stone is fire control radar.
    Big Bird is early warning radar.

    Yes, i was assuming that the radars on the superstructure is the search radar, while Gravestone handles the targeting, else its the 96L6, which i doubt.
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  LMFS on Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:01 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    LMFS wrote:The higher VLS cells (the ones close to the bridged) are for Kalibr IMHO

    Hmm...  on second thoughts you're right, but why haven't the model builders used hatch covers that resemble the UKSK? A little sloppy for what should be a promotional model....
    We are talking about these right?



    They are not very detailed but otherwise similar to the UKSK in other 22350s:



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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:27 am

    LMFS wrote:We are talking about these right?
    Yep. What I don't get is why the modeller used accurately styled VLS covers for the SAMs but some BS generic ones for the UKSK. Its inaccurate and causes confusion. Oh well, such is life.

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:12 am

    Apparently Gorshkov left for the North on 1st Sept.

    And a beautyshot I love you

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  hoom on Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:26 am

    Arrived at Severomorsk https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3335152.html


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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:28 pm

    Frigate Admiral Gorshkov Arrived at Northern Fleet to Continue Air Defense Trials

    http://mil.today/2018/23145/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=rss&utm_campaign=miltoday
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:42 pm

    George1 wrote:Frigate Admiral Gorshkov Arrived at Northern Fleet to Continue Air Defense Trials

    http://mil.today/2018/23145/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=rss&utm_campaign=miltoday

    Good luck at this.

    Hopefully, The success of this would means ground based Vityaz's success too.
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  Isos on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:22 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    George1 wrote:Frigate Admiral Gorshkov Arrived at Northern Fleet to Continue Air Defense Trials

    http://mil.today/2018/23145/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=rss&utm_campaign=miltoday

    Good luck at this.

    Hopefully, The success of this would means ground based Vityaz's success too.

    Ground based version and sea based are very different. Ground based should be easier to finish.

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  hoom on Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:25 pm

    Kasatonov

    It looks pretty close to finished there.
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  verkhoturye51 on Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:12 pm

    hoom wrote:Kasatonov

    It looks pretty close to finished there.

    You mean Golovko? Kasatonov was finished in December 2014. It should be running trials for 4 years now and should be commisioned next year. On the other photos it's in grey colour, like other ships, not this light blue thing.
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:50 pm

    Gorshkov was finished. Not Kasatonov.
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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  verkhoturye51 on Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:08 pm

    Gorshkov was commissioned, but Kasatonov was finished in the sense of being laid on a water, which is the same as starting trials, if I understand it correctly.

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  miroslav on Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:28 am

    verkhoturye51 wrote:Gorshkov was commissioned, but Kasatonov was finished in the sense of being laid on a water, which is the same as starting trials, if I understand it correctly.

    The other two ship in this class are not out of the factory yet. This is Kasatonov. Most of the superstructure on the last two ships still need a year of work (for the third ship at least), let alone having weapons, electronics etc.

    I hope that the reason why we never sea the barrels on the Palash modules is because they do not want them exposed to the elements for no reason.

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  hoom on Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:48 am

    Kasatonov was finished in the sense of being laid on a water, which is the same as starting trials
    Traditional shipbuilding you launch when the hull is completed then you add on all the other stuff in the water.

    Modern fully modular system where modules are heavily fitted out before being linked together require much less (or no) finishing once launched but Russia isn't building that way & I'm not sure anyone else is doing it with combat ships either.

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    Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

    Post  hoom on Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:44 pm

    Has been pointed out at Balancer this pic shows Kasatonov in drydock -> presumably inspection/defouling for starting sea trials soon.

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