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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:30 am

    Russia launches serial production of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jet


    Russian top brass refutes reports on redeploying Su-57 fighter jets to Syria


    MOSCOW, July 29. /TASS/. The Sukhoi Aircraft Company (part of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation) has started to implement its contract for the delivery of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jets to the country’s Aerospace Force, the office of Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told TASS on Monday.

    "A state contract was signed at the Army 2019 international arms exhibition between the Defense Ministry of Russia and the Sukhoi Company for the delivery of a batch of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jets. The Sukhoi has started to fulfil its contractual obligations," the vice-premier’s office reported.

    The state contract envisages the delivery of 76 Su-57 fighter jets to Russia’s Aerospace Force.

    As a result of the contract’s implementation, Russia’s Defense Ministry will get "the most advanced fifth-generation multirole fighter jet, which will boost the domestic Aerospace Force’s combat capabilities," the statement says.

    The vice-premier’s office also confirmed the earlier-stated timeframe of delivering the first Su-57 plane to the Aerospace Force. "The first plane will be delivered to the customer before the end of 2019."

    The Su-57 is a fifth-generation multirole fighter designed to destroy all types of air targets at long and short distances and hit enemy ground and naval targets, overcoming its air defense capabilities.

    The Su-57 took to the skies for the first time on January 29, 2010. Compared to its predecessors, the Su-57 combines the functions of an attack plane and a fighter jet while the use of composite materials and innovation technologies as well as the fighter’s aerodynamic configuration ensure the low level of radar and infrared signature.

    The plane’s armament will include, in particular, hypersonic missiles. The fifth-generation fighter jet has been successfully tested in combat conditions in Syria.


    https://tass.com/defense/1070884
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    Post  dino00 on Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:23 pm

    The Su-57 fighter will be shown for the first time at the MAKS-2019 static exposition

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201983257-T9xet.html
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:41 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Russia launches serial production of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jet




    Russian top brass refutes reports on redeploying Su-57 fighter jets to Syria


    MOSCOW, July 29. /TASS/. The Sukhoi Aircraft Company (part of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation) has started to implement its contract for the delivery of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jets to the country’s Aerospace Force, the office of Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told TASS on Monday.

    "A state contract was signed at the Army 2019 international arms exhibition between the Defense Ministry of Russia and the Sukhoi Company for the delivery of a batch of Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jets. The Sukhoi has started to fulfil its contractual obligations," the vice-premier’s office reported.

    The state contract envisages the delivery of 76 Su-57 fighter jets to Russia’s Aerospace Force.

    As a result of the contract’s implementation, Russia’s Defense Ministry will get "the most advanced fifth-generation multirole fighter jet, which will boost the domestic Aerospace Force’s combat capabilities," the statement says.

    The vice-premier’s office also confirmed the earlier-stated timeframe of delivering the first Su-57 plane to the Aerospace Force. "The first plane will be delivered to the customer before the end of 2019."

    The Su-57 is a fifth-generation multirole fighter designed to destroy all types of air targets at long and short distances and hit enemy ground and naval targets, overcoming its air defense capabilities.

    The Su-57 took to the skies for the first time on January 29, 2010. Compared to its predecessors, the Su-57 combines the functions of an attack plane and a fighter jet while the use of composite materials and innovation technologies as well as the fighter’s aerodynamic configuration ensure the low level of radar and infrared signature.

    The plane’s armament will include, in particular, hypersonic missiles. The fifth-generation fighter jet has been successfully tested in combat conditions in Syria.


    https://tass.com/defense/1070884

    this article gives this additional info on delivery. I hope they up production if not get 76 aircraft is going to take a looooooong time. lol

    "According to local reports external link, Russia has started serial production of the Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jets. Sukhoi began to implement its contract for the delivery of the jets to the Russian Air Force. The deal entails delivery of 76 Su-57 fighter jets to Russia’s Aerospace Force. The first plane is scheduled to be delivered by the end of the year. The Russian Air Force was expected to receive two Su-57s prototypes by the end of 2019 and two more aircraft in 2020. The Su-57 is designed to destroy all types of air targets at long and short distances and hit enemy ground and naval targets, overcoming its air defense capabilities.

    https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/alliant-techsystems-to-produce-aargm-russia-starts-serial-production-of-su-57-india-buys-r-27-missiles-042683/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_source=did&utm_medium=headline&utm_term=Alliant_Techsystems_To_Produce_AARGM_%7C_Russia_Starts_Serial_Production_of_Su-57_%7C_India_Buys_R-27_Missiles
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    Post  Isos on Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:52 pm

    dino00 wrote:The Su-57 fighter will be shown for the first time at the MAKS-2019 static exposition

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201983257-T9xet.html

    Serial build or prototype ?

    We may have a surprise for the first su-57 because su-27 was different from prototypes and pak fa were all different. The experiece in syria may have pushed them to improve some points. The su-57 may be a new design (well not different from pak fa but some changes can be expected).
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    Post  Gazputin on Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:48 am

    I said months ago … the Su-57 was in pilot build
    when you choose a "model no."
    you are freezing a spec ….

    so the initial production variant as I said
    is in reality "Su-57-a0001"

    it is an "A" …. no doubt
    A = current engine

    this crap the Americans peddle is exactly that …

    do you honestly believe that the F-35 being built now is a "-A0001" ? …. if you do …. sorry …. you are an idiot

    every time you take your car in for service …. your model no. changes …. yes …. it does
    your BMW 1-series after electronic updates becomes a 1-00002 …. etc

    same re planes …. do you really in your craziest thoughts think that every single F-15 in USA service are identical ?
    not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvven close ….. they are all ….. "engineering variants"
    forget about F-15A …. versus F-15C ….. I'd say very few F-15Cs are "identical"

    this is the crap the USA Milplex produces …. its total crap ….

    same re Su-57 …. first 15 can't launch hypersonic missiles
    first service … after 18 months …. yep updated …. can now do it … they will henceforth be called (in the workshop) … Su-57- A0002 ….
    you guys get it ?

    I'll give you a rundown on the USA bullshit
    fighters were called "pursuit" P …. P-51
    "P" morphed into "F" for fighter
    Bombers = B
    blah blah

    then they invented "A" attack …. light bomber

    but when they invented the "stealth fighter" F-117
    yes … a "fighter" that had no air-to -air weapons
    why ? to make it sound sexy
    yes it should have been an A-117 ….

    so if you translated …
    F-22 … yes it is an F-22 …. a fighter …. useless for bombing
    F-35 …. utter bullshit …. it is in fact an A-35 ….. a light bomber … yes it is

    and if the Su-57 was American
    it would be an FA-57 …. fighter and attack plane ….

    my point ? don't fall for the American bullshit …. they are terrified of this plane
    why do you think its been labelled 57 ? = "22 +35 = 57"
    FA = 22+35 = 57



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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:50 am

    Apologies if this was already linked but an interesting article from back in April on some of the unique aspects of the Su-57.

    https://defencearena.com/how-good-is-sukhoi-su-57/
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    Post  ATLASCUB on Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:18 pm

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    Purpose of intake?

    I rather not guess.
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    Post  tomazy on Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:59 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:

    Purpose of intake?

    I rather not guess.

    My guess would be cannon cooling.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:31 am

    It vents the gasses from unburnt powder when the guns fire... if they accumulate inside the airframe they can build to a level where they can cause internal explosions and fires.

    With this area open and the area around the muzzle open when the gun fires the airflow also allows the gun to be cooled between bursts of fire...
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    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:It vents the gasses from unburnt powder when the guns fire... if they accumulate inside the airframe they can build to a level where they can cause internal explosions and fires.

    With this area open and the area around the muzzle open when the gun fires the airflow also allows the gun to be cooled between bursts of fire...

    I assumed so but some earlier prototypes didn't have it.

    Thanks to both.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:34 pm

    I assumed so but some earlier prototypes didn't have it.

    Thanks to both.

    I suspect they probably didn't have a gun either.
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    Post  PhSt on Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:31 am

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    Post  hoom on Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:32 pm

    Not specifically Su-57 related but US sent an F-22 to a recent airshow looking like an absolute rust-bucket
    truly amazing material and construction science that appears downright alien when compared to that of non-stealthy fighters.
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29218/these-images-of-an-f-22-raptors-crumbling-radar-absorbent-skin-are-fascinating
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    Pretty sure this is an F-22 with (nearly) all its RAM coatings removed.

    Not too surprising to find its got rough rivets/screws & non-precision panel gaps all over the place.
    What is shocking is the cracks & rust-stains  Shocked

    Its probably just cracks in a surface coating but I almost want to believe its an intentional 'rat rod' type paint-job for the show rather than the true state of the airframe.
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    Post  Hole on Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:12 pm

    If an Su-57 would look like this...
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    Post  kumbor on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:10 am

    hoom wrote:Not specifically Su-57 related but US sent an F-22 to a recent airshow looking like an absolute rust-bucket
    truly amazing material and construction science that appears downright alien when compared to that of non-stealthy fighters.
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29218/these-images-of-an-f-22-raptors-crumbling-radar-absorbent-skin-are-fascinating
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    Pretty sure this is an F-22 with (nearly) all its RAM coatings removed.

    Not too surprising to find its got rough rivets/screws & non-precision panel gaps all over the place.
    What is shocking is the cracks & rust-stains  Shocked

    Its probably just cracks in a surface coating but I almost want to believe its an intentional 'rat rod' type paint-job for the show rather than the true state of the airframe.

    F-22 evidently. If it is not a photoshop or "make up" for some special purpose, then I assume state of this aircraft appaling!
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:31 am

    No wonder they stopped at 189...
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:21 am


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    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29218/these-images-of-an-f-22-raptors-crumbling-radar-absorbent-skin-are-fascinating
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:38 am

    The photos are a reminder of just how much work goes into keeping the F-22's skin ready for combat and the amazing science behind its stealthy design.

    That poor reporter... he obviously doesn't have a mother or a wife... it is called foundation you dick and women have been hiding cracks and wrinkles with if for the last few centuries already...
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    Post  ATLASCUB on Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
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    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29218/these-images-of-an-f-22-raptors-crumbling-radar-absorbent-skin-are-fascinating

    The famous rain damage problem right there.

    The coating possibly absorbing water rusting the frame beneath or eating the coating itself in some weird chem reaction... but obviously not just rain, mist (more common) as well. One of the many reasons it needs all that special maintenance and special housing for these planes. Humidity must be a pain to them.

    They had a lot of problems with this for a reason. Their wunderwaffe "material solutions" probably had a lot of untested and critical chemical reactions when exposed to the elements in all of its forms for prolonged periods of time.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:16 pm

    Judging by the exposed rivets this F-22 had all of its RAM stripped. It looks like the RAM formula developed by some corrupt
    subcontractor is corrosive when mixed with water. I bet the Russian RAM won't have this problem. Those drunks living in
    mud huts actually understand chemistry and physics. Not just dollars like their US counterparts.

    It also nice to see how rough those rivets are. (BTW it makes no difference if they are recessed or protruding to EM
    scatter). All the fanboi wanking over the "obviously" inferior Su-57 are a total joke.



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    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:26 am

    http://redstar.ru/podyomnaya-sila-krylev-rossii/

    Seems from RuAF Deputy chief statement PAK-FA has supercruise capability with current engine

    - You have already mentioned in our conversation the aircraft of generation 4 ++ MiG-35 and 5th generation Su-57, which are now being tested. Tell us what opportunities do they have? How are the tests and when can they be expected in the army?

    - The main difference between the MiG-35 and the multifunctional aircraft of the 4 ++ Su-30SM and Su-35S generations already in service is efficiency. The cost of its flight hour is about one and a half times lower than that of modern aircraft of the Sukhoi family.

    The Su-57 is distinguished by multifunctionality, super maneuverability, a mode of long supersonic cruising flight, maximum automation of aircraft control processes and the use of weapons. In its capabilities, it surpasses the 5th generation aircraft of foreign air forces.

    It is planned to complete state tests of the MiG-35 at the end of 2021, and the Su-57 this year. Upon completion, serial purchases are provided. I want to remind you: according to the results of the meetings in Sochi, the Supreme Commander was tasked with re-equipping three regiments on Su-57 aircraft.
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    Post  Gazputin on Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:40 am

    I have to admit I saw the YF-23 in SanFran …. 7 yrs ago
    what an awesome plane … Northrop Museum

    F-22 is not even close
    the F-22 is just a hybrid of the F-15 and F-117 ….
    it isn't the YF-23's arsehole ….

    the YF-23 that I saw was just incredible ….

    F-22 to me was always a myth ….
    its a piece of over-hyped junk …..

    I mean seriously …. look at the size of those enormous vertical tails ……
    a myth ….. but extremely expensive …. and lets face it …. that is the most important thing to the Pentagon milplex … profit

    and is it just me ? …. but the B-2 has to be parked in an air-conditioned hangar ?
    wtf ?

    and F-35 ….. it needs an air-con hangar too …. as the fuel is used to cool the electronics
    and if its too hot the "wonder plane" can't take off ….

    YF-23 … best plane never built …

    and it interests me that the Su-57 looks a lot like the YF-23 in profile …..
    it just looks "right" … a pragmatic YF-23 ….


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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:49 am

    Report on OKB Sukhoi...some interesting info on the Su-57 as well...



    Starting at around 12:35 they talk about the method of "topological optimisation" where components are produced via computer and 3D printer I guess

    an example....the right hand part can withstand the same pressures as the one on the left (produced the old way) but is 30% lighter
    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #5 - Page 34 57-X3

    In the future, the whole body of the aircraft can be produced using the same method...

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    Post  dino00 on Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:25 pm

    Russia to feature export version of 5th-generation Su-57 fighter at MAKS air show

    The Su-57E fighter and the Il-112VE military transport plane will be the main exhibits of the Russian exposition’s military segment at the airshow

    https://tass.com/defense/1073736

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