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    Isos

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    New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Isos on Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:38 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/16/uk-tempest-fighter-jet-typhoon-farnborough-airshow

    UK and Italy to co-produce new 5th generation fighter named Tempest.
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  George1 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:23 pm

    by the time it will appear we talk about 6th gen
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Isos on Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:06 pm

    George1 wrote:by the time it will appear we talk about 6th gen

    5th generation fighters were already made when Typhoon went into service.

    The most weired is that they will buy f-35 in big numbers before making their own fighter.

    Stpuidity... dunno
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:23 pm

    The Italian government has not pledged anything to the project. Leonardo is a partner because the UK can't make the avionics.
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:21 pm


    Does anyone know what 6-gen fighter is even supposed to be?

    Not even Lockheed Martin came up with usable definition for promo pamphlets yet...
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Does anyone know what 6-gen fighter is even supposed to be?

    Not even Lockheed Martin came up with usable definition for promo pamphlets yet...

    One of the key features will be high supercruise speeds in order to launch hypersonic missiles without boosters and extend range without the need for aerial refueling.  The ability to control drones and a power supply capable of powering lasers.  Stealth in both RCS and IR reduced to new levels. The use of GaN AESA and all of the abilities the increased power output will be able to gain.
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Isos on Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:06 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Does anyone know what 6-gen fighter is even supposed to be?

    Not even Lockheed Martin came up with usable definition for promo pamphlets yet...

    Cruise missiles are replacing fighters. Faster, longer range, stealthier, more easy to deploy and use.

    Airports and everything inside will be easy targets for them. While they will be out of range of fighters like f-35.

    Fighters won't be needed  for conventional wars. Satelittes and drones will monitor the enemy. The first hour, the first to shoot the more hypersonic missiles will win. 6 days wars type wars with missiles instead of fighters.

    7th, 8th and 9th generations will probably focus on the ability to fly in the space but 6th generation isn't needed in my opinion.
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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:23 am

    Tempest will be built by a consortium led by the British defence firm BAE Systems, with the engine-maker Rolls-Royce, the Italian aerospace company Leonardo and the pan-European missile manufacturer MBDA.

    From pictures i see that it will be also delta wing

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    Re: New UK-Italian fighter Tempest

    Post  Isos on Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:09 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Tempest will be built by a consortium led by the British defence firm BAE Systems, with the engine-maker Rolls-Royce, the Italian aerospace company Leonardo and the pan-European missile manufacturer MBDA.

    From pictures i see that it will be also delta wing


    Many articles on the net say the maket seems to be a BAE Replica jet. It was a unfinished 5th gen fighter developed in the 90s but stoped in favor of f-35.

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