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    Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  Hole on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:46 am

    Like a mix between Hermes and Iskander.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:14 am

    dino00 wrote:Pocket Iskander: the military will receive high-precision missile systems

    Launchers VTRK will be placed on armored vehicles


    The development of high-precision tactical missile systems - VTRC - the beginning of the Ministry of Defense. These products have already received the informal name "pocket Iskander." Launchers compact VTRK will be placed on armored vehicles "Tiger" or "Typhoon." Despite their diminutiveness, the complexes should hit any targets - equipment, fortifications, as well as points of contact and control. They are designed to deliver high-precision strikes in the rear of a potential enemy at a depth of 100 km. VTTRK will help divisions and brigades to establish close cooperation with drones, reconnaissance vehicles and connection formations.

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    https://iz.ru/795530/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/karmannyi-iskander-voennye-poluchat-vysokotochnye-raketnye-kompleksy


    Everything here is ok with small exception. This is technically not a mini Iskander. But a two stage Hermes.


    http://wiki-org.ru/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81_(%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81)

    and here more about already proven in Syria Hermes A
    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/hermes-foto/

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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:54 pm

    The first 2018 brigade set of the Iskander-M missile system was sent to the troops

    As far as can be judged, we are talking about the delivery of the first of two additional brigade kits of an operational-tactical missile system (OTRK) 9К720 Iskander-M under a contract concluded in August 2017 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with with Scientific Production Corporation "KB Mashinostroeniya". According to available information, this kit is designed to re-equip the 448th missile brigade of the 20th Guards Combined Arms Army of the Western Military District stationed in Kursk.
    To date, the 448th missile brigade has remained the only of the 12 deployed rocket brigades in the Armed Forces of Russia, retaining in service the outdated Tactical missile system 9К79-1 Tochka-U. The remaining 11 missile brigades received from 2010 to 2017 the brigade sets of the Iskander-M Tactical missile systems (nine brigades were re-equipped from Tochka-U tactical missile systems and two brigades — the 3rd and 12th — were additionally formed). The upcoming rearmament of the 448th missile brigade at the with Iskander-M was reported at the end of 2017.

    It can be assumed that the second brigade set of the Iskander-M Tactical missile system under this contract will be delivered in 2019 and should be used to form a new missile brigade as part of the 8th Guards Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3419092.html
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:22 pm

    so Tochka-U has been phased out by Russian Army?
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  dino00 on Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:39 am

    Extended Iskander hit the video

    An unusual modification of the operational-tactical missile complex "Iskander" appeared in the release of television news.

    Specialists bmpd drew attention to the increased length of launchers. In their opinion, this may indicate that the Iskanders are adapted for firing 9M729 cruise missiles developed by the Novator Design Bureau. This is the land version of the Iskander KR with a range of up to five thousand kilometers. Suspect Suspect

    https://vpk.name/news/235393_udlinennyii_iskander_popal_na_video.html

    The video is the One That George1 posted to posts above.

    Can this be the 9M279 launcher?
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:28 am

    The cruise missiles they had in Iskander missiles are not the same as the naval or air launched models.

    They complied with the INF treaty and had range limits. They likely had a modular super heavy warhead that reduced fuel capacity, but increased effect on target, or perhaps allowed multiple targets to be engaged with one missile.

    Now that the INF treaty is being ripped up of course they can put 5,000km range cruise missiles on Iskander launchers...

    Of course if the range is extended to over 5,500km then the INF treaty does not apply then either...
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  Hole on Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:22 pm



    The larger(?) launcher.

    dino00: It should be the ground launched version of the Kaliber system.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:18 am

    Hole wrote:

    The larger(?) launcher.

    dino00: It should be the ground launched version of the Kaliber system.

    The cruise missile launching version is called Iskander-K....K as in 'Kaliber'. If you remember the original version, it had long slender launch tubes, with lots of space in between in case the cruise missile required 'modernization'.



    They could of just as easily added wider launch tubes, where the cruise missile had large conformal fuel tanks attached to them.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:37 am

    Or stack three or four wide and two deep to carry 6-8 ready to fire missiles per vehicle...

    If it was Kalibr then it would have violated the INF treaty because it has a range of 2,600km or so, so it clearly was not Kalibr.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  Viktor on Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:00 am

    GarryB wrote:Or stack three or four wide and two deep to carry 6-8 ready to fire missiles per vehicle...

    If it was Kalibr then it would have violated the INF treaty because it has a range of 2,600km or so, so it clearly was not Kalibr.

    I think 5 without the top cover. It needs those side hatches and the middle one is thus left out Smile

    It would look like a Smerch bigger brother.

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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  Hole on Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:55 am

    The first cruise missile of the Iskander-K was an offspring of the Kaliber, because of the INF treaty. Now the russian army could use the "normal" Kaliber.



    Kaliber for "coastal defence".



    Newer Version, called Klub-T (Export).

    They could also use a heavy BAZ or MZKT or the new KaMAZ truck and fit a standard USKS onto it.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  dino00 on Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:38 pm

    Ground forces in 2019 fully re-equip to Iskander-M complexes

    The brigade kit includes more than 50 pieces of equipment, noted in the Ministry of Defense

    MOSCOW, January 1. / TASS /. Rocket formations of the Ground Forces of Russia will fully complete rearmament of the Iskander-M missile systems in 2019. This was reported on Tuesday at the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

    "In 2019, the rearmament of the missile formations of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to the operational tactical missile complex Iskander-M will be completed. As part of the execution of the state defense order, the manufacturer  will transfer to the missile formation of the Western Military District a brigade set of operational tactical missile systems ( OTRK) "Iskander-M", - reported in the Ministry of Defense.

    The military department explained that the brigade kit includes more than 50 pieces of equipment, including launchers, transport-loading machines, command and staff vehicles, regulation and technical support machines, as well as life support machines.


    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5970290

    What happens next?
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  franco on Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:05 pm

    New 8th Combined Arms Army in Rostov doesn't have an unit yet so perhaps... or if the INF goes out the window a whole range of new ordnance.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  dino00 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:00 pm

    Complex Iskander-M will receive new types of missiles - military

    Moscow. February 4th. INTERFAX-AVN - The Iskander-M Russian tactical missile system will be upgraded and will receive new types of missiles, said Colonel Roman Spirin, chairman of the scientific and technical committee of the main missile and artillery department of the Russian Defense Ministry.
    "The development of ground-based missile systems is aimed at further enhancing the combat capabilities of the Iskander-M operational-tactical complex and provides for a significant improvement in its tactical and technical characteristics, ensuring operation in all weather conditions and the possibility of overcoming future enemy anti-missile defense systems," R.Spirin in the article in the collection "Rocket-technical and artillery-technical support of the RF Armed Forces-2018".
    "The current and planned research and development work is aimed both at modernizing the complex as a whole and at creating new types of missiles for it," he said.
    The collection "Rocket-technical and artillery-technical support of the RF Armed Forces-2018" published on the Internet.
    In April 2017, the head of Rostec, Sergey Chemezov, announced that a modernized version of the Iskander-M complex would be presented after 2020.
    According to official data, the Iskander-M is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 500 km. The complex consists of two types of missiles: ballistic and cruise. The complex is designed to destroy enemy enemy rocket launchers, anti-missile and air defense systems, airplanes and helicopters at airfields, command posts and infrastructure facilities. The missile of the Iskander-M complex can carry a nuclear warhead.
    In 2017, Valery Kashin, General Designer of the Scientific Production Corporation Design Bureau of Engineering (KBM), said that seven types of missiles were created for the Iskander-M complex.
    " Several more types of missiles have been created, apparently they are not different from each other. Now he has seven types of missiles, and maybe more "

    http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=501099

    I was thinking to put this on the INF treaty topic...not yet.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:42 pm

    dino00 wrote:Complex Iskander-M will receive new types of missiles - military
    ..................
          According to official data, the Iskander-M is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 500 km. The complex consists of two types of missiles: ballistic and cruise. The complex is designed to destroy enemy enemy rocket launchers, anti-missile and air defense systems, airplanes and helicopters at airfields, command posts and infrastructure facilities. The missile of the Iskander-M complex can carry a nuclear warhead. ..........

    500km range for this thing is a disgrace, good riddance to INF finally

    They need to tweak this to longer range, 1000km should simple enough. It will allow them to close down everything from Kamchatka to Japan and to turn North Pacific into shooting gallery. And that's just Pacific.

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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  Isos on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:26 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Complex Iskander-M will receive new types of missiles - military
    ..................
          According to official data, the Iskander-M is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 500 km. The complex consists of two types of missiles: ballistic and cruise. The complex is designed to destroy enemy enemy rocket launchers, anti-missile and air defense systems, airplanes and helicopters at airfields, command posts and infrastructure facilities. The missile of the Iskander-M complex can carry a nuclear warhead. ..........

    500km range for this thing is a disgrace, good riddance to INF finally

    They need to tweak this to longer range, 1000km should simple enough. It will allow them to close down everything from Kamchatka to Japan and to turn North Pacific into shooting gallery. And that's just Pacific.


    Well, Iskander's quasi ballistic path means shorter range than a true ballistic missile. If you want to keep the quasi ballistic path but with a range of 1000 and more km you will need a much bigger missile. Could even be impossible without reach huge dimensions for the missile.

    I think this could explain why they develop cruise missiles for the system. Cruise missiles keep the "surprise" factor just like the quasi ballistic missile so the enemy has very little time to react while a ballistic missile will be spoted by early warning radars from far away.

    If the actual iskander was used with a real ballistic trajectory its range would be bigger than the official 500km for sure.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:37 am

    Isos wrote:
    Well, Iskander's quasi ballistic path means shorter range than a true ballistic missile. If you want to keep the quasi ballistic path but with a range of 1000 and more km you will need a much bigger missile. Could even be impossible without reach huge dimensions for the missile.

    I think this could explain why they develop cruise missiles for the system. Cruise missiles keep the "surprise" factor just like the quasi ballistic missile so the enemy has very little time to react while a ballistic missile will be spoted by early warning radars from far away.

    If the actual iskander was used with a real ballistic trajectory its range would be bigger than the official 500km for sure.



    Unlikely, the whole advantage is that non ballistic trajectory -otherwise it is much easier to intercept. Me thinks it would be more like "ground based aerobllistic missile" Wink
    - one stage extra to provide with kinetic energy, rest is flying somewhat like Kinzhal.
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:39 am

    Indeed, if you add a solid rocket stage to existing Iskander that gets the missile up to say 15km altitude and mach 3-4, then you should be easily able to get the same 2,000km range performance of Kinzhal... the MiG-31K basically does that... perhaps 18-20km altitude and Mach 3 launch speed...
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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:29 pm



    Pavel Podvig
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    Here is updated Iskander file (20th brigade moved to Ussurisk, a few locations are more accurate)




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    I suppose this is as good a time as any to re-share the Iskander ORBAT that @vpkivimaki and I made, complete with .kmz file.
    https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1202268/iskanders-in-kaliningrad/ …


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    Re: Iskander-M/K (SS-26 Stone):

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:03 am

    JohninMK wrote:

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    Podvig? DAT Atlanticist scum is working now officially for Us intel?

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