Natural processes like past volcanism, asteroid/comet strikes, tsunamis, continental drift, & climate changes altered/wiped out as many, if not more, life forms than human activities.
Yeah, I am not interested in blaming this or that.
I am saying that extinctions are not new and not exclusively man made.
Serious changes in the environment will naturally lead to extinctions... extinctions are normal... but the extinctions due to warming weather are negligible compared with the extinctions we have cause simply by clearing native habitats and building houses and roads and shit all over the place.
There is nothing we can do to stop extinction except stop expanding... stop building rental properties... learn to live and fewer houses... smaller houses... temperatures will change... they are going up at the moment according to scientists not hired by oil companies to say they are not. Without the burning of fossil fuels and cow farts and a thousand other natural processes releasing green house gasses the climate might be getting colder which could be just as problematic... lower sea levels would allow human populations which are traditionally coastal to expand out in to what is now under water and will definitely be flooded when something changes and the earth heats up again.
Cute or not, they r part of the ecosystem.
They are a niche part of the ecosystem that is useless. Pandas only eat bamboo, they are too big for other animals to eat. There is very little nutritional value in bamboo so they pretty much have to eat most of the day to survive. If they disappeared right now.... completely... there would be no negative effect at all... except all the money spent to keep them sitting on their fat asses eating bamboo shoots could be spent on saving more useful animals.
We caused their #s to go down, not the nature
They only eat Bamboo.... they are a dead end of nature.
Several species of big cats also went extinct thanks to us.
Big cats serve to control the numbers of other animals and are much more useful to nature than pandas unless there is a bamboo epidemic and the only solution is to find an animal that can control bamboo growth...
Who r u to judge what species r useful & useless?
Removing unnecessary things like emotion from the equation, you look at what effects on NATURE there would be if the animal didn't exist.
For Pandas there is no negative effect unless Panda shit is found to cure cancer.
If lions or tigers go extinct then the animals they hunt and eat could increase in numbers and become a problem.
If hyenas go extinct then a lot of killed animals will lay out in the open longer and rot creating potential for diseases that were previously prevented because packs of Hyenas normally cleaned up corpses pretty quickly, and also hunted in their own right.
By ur own logic, if less population is good, then we r useless to pandas, lions & tigers!
If there were 2 billion humans in total on the entire planet most of the planet would be natural and healthy and unpoluted and most of the animals that are threatened with exinction would be fine. If Africa wasn't being covered in farms to grow food for humans, if farmers were shooting lions and other predators to protect their cows there wouldn't be a problem for those predators... nature had a cruel balance... too many antelope and the lions and hyenas fed well and had babies... too many lions and hyenas and they fought each other for the scraps or starved and reduced their numbers to allow the herbivores to recover numbers again.
Human beings is like a forest full of tigers... we burn down the forest to build farms to grow food and kill all the animals in that forest too. Tigers on the other hand would wipe out the native wildlife and then starve.
There are billons of humans buf just few hundred rhinos. I would erase entire beijing in exchange for the sumatra rhino
Good, so lets start with all of Europe... that is about half a billion... add north america and central and south America that probably takes you to 1 billion and I am sure India and China will give up half their populations to save this rhino... I mean who cares about europe and the us compared with a rhino.
Equoting the lives of endangered species to Ms of Beijingers is no different. A wealthy Chinese who hates France or Spain could also say: "I would wipe out Paris or Madrid if it helped to save the Iberian Lynx!" Did u my meaning?
It is like being hard on crime.... everyone agrees that criminals should get harsh penaties and that at the moment they get away with too much with short sentences... but when you say they will need more prisons they will agree... but not near me.
I am sure our french friend would be happy to give up 6 billion human lives to save some useless fucking rhino... they probably don't even taste very nice.
But not if those 6 billion include any french people...
But as he says the west leads the world and france practically controls europe... together with Germany, which means they are to blame and should be the first to go don't you agree?