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    Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

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    Isos

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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:.....
    So in use at the moment:

    SSBN: 8 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSGN: 7 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSN: 13
    .....


    And just in time, infographics on Russian submarine fleet:

    Huge picture, 7776x4848:

    Yasen will start coming in really big numbers. They have modernized soviet era nuclear attack subs. Future diesel subs will have AIP so much more usefull than diesel subs they have now. And Oscar will get their new uksk vls.

    The russian navy will be much more powerfull than the soviet probably in 6 years because all their ships will be able to lunch kalibr oniks and tzirkon.

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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  walle83 on Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:09 am

    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:.....
    So in use at the moment:

    SSBN: 8 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSGN: 7 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSN: 13
    .....


    And just in time, infographics on Russian submarine fleet:

    Huge picture, 7776x4848:

    Yasen will start coming in really big numbers. They have modernized soviet era nuclear attack subs. Future diesel subs will have AIP so much more usefull than diesel subs they have now. And Oscar will get their new uksk vls.

    The russian navy will be much more powerfull than the soviet probably in 6 years because all their ships will be able to lunch kalibr oniks and tzirkon.

    Will Yasen-class start to come in "really big numbers"? Care to explain how this will happen?
    Yes Russia do overhaul and upgrade some of its older nuclear subs. But its going really slow, and most probably wont return to service before 2020-2025.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:22 am

    walle83 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:.....
    So in use at the moment:

    SSBN: 8 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSGN: 7 (+2 in overhaul)

    SSN: 13
    .....


    And just in time, infographics on Russian submarine fleet:

    Huge picture, 7776x4848:

    Yasen will start coming in really big numbers. They have modernized soviet era nuclear attack subs. Future diesel subs will have AIP so much more usefull than diesel subs they have now. And Oscar will get their new uksk vls.

    The russian navy will be much more powerfull than the soviet probably in 6 years because all their ships will be able to lunch kalibr oniks and tzirkon.

    Will Yasen-class start to come in "really big numbers"? Care to explain how this will happen?
    Yes Russia do overhaul and upgrade some of its older nuclear subs. But its going really slow, and most probably wont return to service before 2020-2025.

    They are building 6 of them if I'm not wrong. So they will be put into service one after the other really quickly. Now they don't have them but they will get those being build and that will change drasticly the level of technology of sub forces. While the old one are being upgraded also right now so they will come back with the yasen. So the number of subs will increase if they keep the old ones and get new ones.

    6 is a big number for sub forces. Specially if it is about Yasen class. But what's important here is that they will put into service all of them in the same period which should be 2020-2025.

    2025 will be the year where old rusty russian navy will no exist anymore. They will have plenty of new ships and far less old ships. Like new kilo, new yasen, new borei, and husky will be start in the shipyards.
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:57 am

    I think we can forgett about the last Akula submarine. It just used for missile tests and for show off. Yes it can fire the Bulava missile but i think only one or two of its missile tubes was modified for that use. And all SS-N-20 missiles have been scrapped by now.

    The last Akula sub used for testing should not be forgotten... it would be ideal for testing a range of weapon and system types that would not require taking an operational sub off the line to do the same work.


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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue May 29, 2018 7:10 pm


    Podmoskovye spy sub, fresh photos with dorsal payload cradle:







    More photos: https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/107655/
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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:25 am

    Construction schedule of Borei-A, Yasen and Husky



    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/193283.html


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    Re: Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:54 pm

    George1 wrote:Construction schedule of Borei-A, Yasen and Husky

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/navy_korabel/63221775/62442/62442_900.jpg

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/193283.html


    So 7-8 year build speed on average. Slower than USA but faster than France and UK.

    Boreis are definitely winners here, decent pace, lots of hulls and fortunately SSBN fleet is well stocked so no need to rush things.

    But that 5 year gap (at best) between last Yasen and first Husky is really concerning. Is Russian SSN fleet numerous and capable enough to absorb delivery gap that big? Seriously asking.

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