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    Post  Book. on Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:55 pm

    SA Navy needs more than three offshore and three inshore patrol vessels - expert
    Written by Guy Martin, Friday, 19 June 2015

    Although a welcome boost to the South African Navy and local shipbuilding industry, the six new inshore and offshore patrol vessels being acquired under project Biro have been criticised as being too few, with an expert suggesting at least eight offshore patrol vessels are needed to adequately patrol South Africa’s waters.

    Defence analyst and former Defence Review committee member Helmoed Romer Heitman has suggested that three offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) are too few. “They are relatively small ships and will be limited in their ability to conduct patrols far from home without either a base or a local support arrangement, or a support ship in company. But they will be a very useful complement to the frigates,” he stated.

    However, when it comes to the inshore patrol vessels (IPVs), Heitman is of the opinion that “the three 60 m IPVs now envisaged as part of Biro are an embarrassing misstep by the Navy and will be an entirely pointless expenditure,” because, “at 60 m they will be too large and complex to be the 'cheap and cheerful' equivalent to the old SDPs, to be used for close inshore work and more importantly to train and develop officers and ratings…At 60 m they will be too small to be really useful (the strike craft were good special operations platforms, but had the speed and the self-defence capability these vessels will lack.

    “The Navy's experience with the strike craft demonstrated that 60 m is precisely the wrong hull length for SA waters: Shorter and the ride is lively but dry; longer and the ride is more comfortable and dry. At 60 m it is uncomfortable and wet, with real risk of damage in rough seas. Remember how many of the strike craft found themselves inadvertently doing a submarine crash dive imitation in rough seas.

    “What we should be doing is increasing the OPV buy to at least four now, with a target - as per all of the previous studies - of twelve. Study of the DR [2014 Defence Review] will show that the absolute minimum number will be eight, accepting some gaps and some tasks falling to the frigates,” Heitman stated.

    He suggests that the South African Navy should re-role the three refitted strike craft (and possibly a fourth) for the fast inshore patrol role as they will be able to do what the new IPVs will be able to do and will cost much less to bring to a standard for that role.

    Heitman goes on to suggest that the IPV requirement should be revisited to develop a vessel of somewhere around 30 to 40 m, “which will be cheap and simple and good enough for patrolling port environs - and ideal for training.”

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    Post  Book. on Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:57 pm

    NAUTIC AFRICA 35m Sentinel

    The 35m Multi-Purpose Vessel (MPV) is a modern high-speed semi displacement vessel, having an optimal V-bottom hull shape, purpose built to the rules and classification of Bureau Veritas. The design is particularly optimized for endurance security patrols and cargo transfer. Located above deck is a mess seating area for members of the crew and passengers, which is utilized during meals and as a social area while on patrol. An enclosed galley and medical bay are located aft of the seating area. The captain and first engineer’s cabins are situated in the forward part of the main deck and have en-suite bathrooms. Crew and security personnel quarters are situated below deck, having six cabins; two (2) two man cabins with en-suite shower and toilet are provided for the senior security personnel.

    General Specifications
    Hull Aluminium
    Description Multi-Purpose Vessel

    Length 35m
    Beam 7.5m
    Draught 1.4m
    Displacement (Full Load) 175 Tonnes

    Speed @ Cruise 20 Knots
    Speed @ Full 28 Knots

    Fuel Oil 56m.
    Fresh Water 10m.
    Waste Water 4m.
    Crew 6
    Passengers (Seated) 4

    Power Supply 400VAC
    Generators 2x Caterpillar C4.4 107kV

    Engines 3 x Caterpillar C32 ACERT
    Power 3 x 1193K w “D” Rated @ 2300rpm
    Propulsion 3 x Propellers

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    Post  Book. on Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:10 pm

    SA troops in Sudan feared the worst
    2015-06-17 08:38
    Pretoria - More than 800 terrified South African soldiers in Sudan feared the worst when their camp was surrounded by Sudanese troops.

    "In order to save lives, we would have to have surrendered if they stormed us. One battalion of soldiers without proper weapons could not fight against an entire country's army," a South African soldier told Netwerk24.

    Netwerk24 reported on Tuesday that South African peacekeepers in North Darfur were effectively held "hostage" by members of the Sudanese army while the drama around Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir's possible arrest during the African Union summit in Johannesburg escalated. The High Court in Pretoria ordered that Al-Bashir be detained.

    It is believed that Al-Bashir was possibly allowed to leave South Africa amid fears of violence against the South African peacekeepers.

    "They [the South African troops] would have been overwhelmed. If South Africa had arrested Al-Bashir, they would have been prisoners of war," a friend of a soldier told Netwerk24.

    Meanwhile, soldiers, family members and friends of the soldiers serving in Sudan have contradicted the military's "categorical denial" that there was a hostage situation, recounting stories of their loved ones' fears while in the war-torn country.

    The army said the "increased military traffic" in Darfur was part of the Sudanese government's preparations for the Ramadan religious celebrations.

    Head of joint operations, Lieutenant General Derrick Mgwebi, said the situation had "normalised" and the mobilisation of Sudanese soldiers near the South African base in Khartoum was not aimed at the base.

    But a soldier said: "We were so scared - we were surrounded by soldiers. We handed out extra ammunition to everyone in case it was needed."

    The deployment apparently began shortly before the weekend, when Al-Bashir left for the AU summit in South Africa.

    A friend of a soldier at the base said that they were surrounded by about 500 heavily-armed Sudanese soldiers in Hilux bakkies at about 10:00 on Monday. Al-Bashir's jet took off from Waterkloof air force base at about midday on Monday.

    While the court bid to have him arrested continued in Pretoria, the South African soldiers were surrounded. They were placed at Level 2 readiness, which means they had to be battle ready and fully armed.

    "They were terrified and overwhelmed. They were basically kept as hostages for the afternoon.

    "They could see an attack was imminent. The [Sudanese] soldiers were about 500 metres from their camp. According to their intelligence something would have happened if Al-Bashir was arrested," the source said.

    One caller to Power FM said a relative who is serving in Sudan said her camp was "surrounded" by Sudanese soldiers. Another soldier confirmed that they were placed at Level 2 readiness when vehicles approached the base.

    "I am so grateful South Africa did not arrest Al-Bashir. Our commander said after Al-Bashir arrived safely in the country, the soldiers withdrew," a message sent by a soldier in Darfur to his colleagues in South Africa read.

    According to Netwerk24, approximately 800 South African soldiers are serving in Darfur as part of Unamid, a combined UN and AU peacekeeping force. The current group of soldiers are from 8 Infantry Battalion in Upington.

    Meanwhile, the UN has denied that the South African soldiers were in a hostage situation, saying they were never in danger. And a Sudanese army official told Bloomberg that they are not in conflict with the South Africans.

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    Post  wilhelm on Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:42 pm

    Thanks Book.

    At least you've upped the quality of the thread from the ill-informed "experts" with their half-assed incorrect historical and social opinions from earlier, all of whom I'd venture have never been near the place, let alone set foot in it.

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    Post  Book. on Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:58 pm

    Denel Defence Day Highlights


    Rheinmetall and Denel hosted a ‘Defence Day’, the second of its kind, from 20-23 April. The week showcased their large portfolio of defence systems, weapons, and the bombs, bullets and pyrotechnics that make up the sharp end of fighting. The integration of local and international defence technology has produced some very interesting results. Making full use of the Denel Overberg Test Range to illustrate the long range and accuracy of the munitions, the Defence Day proved an informative event for the defence professional, whether in or out of uniform.

    A number of images from the event were posted in part 1 of this feature, for this post we are featuring spectacular video footage taken from a variety of cameras and systems at the test range. This includes slow-motion thermal imaging from the range’s specialised tracking systems as well as extremely rare footage from a Rooivalk’s gun camera.

    We would like to thank Denel Overberg Test Range for graciously allowing us to display their footage.


    The Al Tariq guided munition in action at the Overberg Test Range. Although demonstrated live during the Defence Day, this footage is from a different live testing. The use of the South African Air Force Hawk and general flight trajectory of the munition is accurate, however.

    The in-place detonation of a Mokopa air-to-ground missile warhead in order to display the its armour-penetration characteristics.

    The new Badger infantry fighting vehicle, about to enter service with the South African Army, firing its Denel-manufactured GI-30 30mm main cannon. The beginning of the video also shows the Badger in its anti-tank, Ingwe-armed variant.

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    Post  Book. on Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:42 am

    Denel Aerostructures ready to support Rooivalk II
    Written by Guy Martin, Friday, 07 August 2015

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    Denel Aerostructures is ready and willing to support manufacture of a new Rooivalk, and is currently making drop tanks and small components for the existing fleet of 11 serving in the South African Air Force.

    Theo Kleynhans, CEO of Denel Aerostructures (DAe), told defenceWeb that if South Africa continues to expand its peacekeeping missions in Africa, there may well be a growing role for the Rooivalk which has proven its operational effectiveness in that arena. Kleynhans confirmed that Denel is in discussions with the South African Air Force on the upgrading of the current Rooivalk baseline and the feasibility of a new Rooivalk Mk II development with an export component.

    Kleynhans said that although Denel Aviation is the original equipment manufacturer of the Rooivalk, airframe design and production would typically take place at Denel Aerostructures. Denel is however looking for co-development and co-manufacturing with partner countries to further develop Rooivalk exportability.

    In order to get ready for relaunched production, DAe would modify the existing jigs and use better, newer and more elegant ways to produce the aircraft and would move the blueprint drawings to CATIA software.

    DAe is still producing drop tanks for the Rooivalk and other parts from time to time as needed such as brackets and other components – the company provides on-going Rooivalk engineering support with seven to eight people working on the programme.

    Denel Aerostructures will manufacture ten drop tanks this year on new equipment with production ceasing at around 20. Kleynhans said drop tank production restarted in June last year.

    The Rooivalk drop tank is 3.45 metres long, .64 metres in diameter, and has a fuel capacity of 550 litres. It weighs 51.5 kg empty and 496 kg full. The centre section is made of metal while the nose and tail section and being made from composite materials. Lightening protection was designed into the tank for all weather operation.

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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:27 pm

    Really digging SA gear in general.

    What they did with the Mi-24 made it the meanest looking of the bunch.

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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:31 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Really digging SA gear in general.

    What they did with the Mi-24 made it the meanest looking of the bunch.

    Yes, but unfortunatley the company does not do so well and i haven't heared of any exports of Super Hinds besides to Azerbajan. Even their own Rooivalk isn't sold well and was already considered a done project, that is the only news since several years regarding Rooivalks and to be honest it does not sound impressive for an upgrade it necessary needs.

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    Post  Book. on Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:52 am

    Denel Dynamics to test Marlin BVR missile technology in September
    Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 17 August 2015 [08.19.2015 20:45:58]

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    Denel Dynamics will conduct missile flight tests of its new Marlin missile system in September and November this year ahead of a first guided test flight in November 2016, where it will be demonstrated against a moving target.

    At the moment Denel Dynamics is working on a technology demonstrator missile, and plans to conduct a fly-over test in September and a seeker head test in November, according to Jaco Botha, Chief Programme Manager.

    The 80-100 kilometre range Marlin radar-guided air-to-air missile is being developed by Denel Dynamics under an Armscor/Department of Defence technology demonstrator contract. Denel Dynamics will be using a dual pulse rocket motor on the Marlin (this uses two fuel chambers and one exhaust nozzle) for extended range.

    Ultimately Denel Dynamics aims to combine the Marlin and A-Darter missiles into a multirole airborne weapons system containing infrared and radar seekers and most likely with a ram rocket motor. This would be realised in around a decade’s time.

    Marlin can also be configured into an all-weather surface-to-air missile. Common subsystems will be used for the different variants of the weapon, with some components derived from the A-Darter and Denel’s Umkhonto surface-to-air missile.

    Although Marlin is fully funded by the Department of Defence via Armscor, Denel Dynamics is looking for an international partner to collaborate with during the future development programme. The company said it is currently talking to a few interested parties.

    Denel Dynamics is also busy with the final qualification of the A-Darter fifth generation infrared guided air-to-air missile, which has been integrated onto the South African Air Force’s Gripen aircraft and is being integrated onto its Hawks. Going forward, the company wants to do incremental upgrades on the A-Darter, including a mid-life update.

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    Post  Guest on Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:03 am

    "Denel is in discussions with various government departments including the South African Air Force (SAAF) on upgrading the Rooivalk combat helicopter and developing a next generation Rooivalk Mk 2, which is being marketed to potential foreign clients.

    Denel revealed plans for the next generation Rooivalk during a demonstration event at the Denel Overberg Test Range (DOTR) in the Western Cape earlier this month, during which the Rooivalk fired two Mokopa precision guided missiles as part of ongoing qualification testing.

    Mike Kgobe, CEO of Denel Aviation, told defenceWeb that the demonstration was based on renewed interest expressed in the helicopter, especially following its performance with the United Nations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He said February’s demonstration was aimed at talking to the broader community about the Rooivalk, with interested countries present at the demonstration, including delegations from Poland and Nigeria. Poland is currently seeking new attack helicopters under its Kruk programme while Nigeria has an urgent operational requirement for attack helicopters to combat Boko Haram militants.

    Egypt is also believed to be potentially interested, especially after the United States delayed the delivery of AH-64 Apache helicopters following the military’s removal of Mohammed Morsi from power. Although Egypt recently ordered 46 Ka-52K helicopters from Russia, these are earmarked for its Mistral class vessels and the country still requires land-based attack helicopters.

    “Denel is open to partnership possibilities regarding the Rooivalk and we are open to discussing these capabilities,” Kgobe said.

    Denel officials said that international interest in the programme was revitalised with the support of the South African government and the successful deployment of the system in the Democratic Republic of Congo. “Discussions are continuing with the SAAF for the enhancement of the Rooivalk,” Denel said, adding that the present Mk 1 will require a midlife upgrade within the next five years as a result of known obsolescence afflicting the current baseline.

    Kgobe said that Denel has developed a roadmap for the Rooivalk including a future upgrade. A phased programme will consist of using the present Mk 1 Rooivalk design, addressing obsolescence, introducing new modern avionics, updating the weapon system and increasing reproducibility. The next generation Rooivalk will feature better sights, improved firepower, greater payload and better survivability amongst other improvements, he said. The airframe and engines are still deemed satisfactory and would not be changed in a future upgrade.

    “Denel Aviation is interested in seeking partners and clients in the development of a new generation Rooivalk…In this process, significant opportunities exist for technology transfer as well as production and MRO participation. In order to exploit the intellectual property vested in Rooivalk at an economically feasible level a broad client base would be required,” Denel said.

    “Through a joint venture programme of industrial participation and transfer of intellectual property, an indigenous attack helicopter production, support and upgrade/modification capability can be established.”

    Jan Wessels, Denel Group COO, said that Rooivalk production is “inevitable” and called on potential partners to join in the programme. Funding has been made available from Denel Aviation to proceed with upgrading the Rooivalk and the company has brought back the Rooivalk jigs in anticipation of producing the Mk 2.

    Denel estimated that it would take only four years to put the Rooivalk Mk 2 into service, including the development of prototypes, establishment of production, and production and assembly for launch customers.

    Rooivalk 679, one of 12 Rooivalks delivered to the South African Air Force, was damaged in a hard-landing and at the time deemed uneconomical to repair – its tail boom broke off and the cannon was destroyed, although the crew survived without serious injury. It was subsequently stripped of usable parts and resides at Denel Aviation’s facilities. The company wants to rebuild it, but it still has to be formally transferred by the SAAF.

    When promoting the Rooivalk to potential foreign clients, Denel emphasised the importance of eliminating OEM (original equipment manufacturer) restrictions and controlling intellectual property, noting that the Rooivalk’s intellectual property is vested in Denel Aviation. However, the main gearbox and main and tail rotor system (the dynamic components) are based on the Airbus Helicopters Super Puma/Oryx. Hugh Petersen, Executive Manager: Business Development at Denel Aviation, told defenceWeb that as Airbus Helicopters owns the intellectual property on the dynamic components so Denel has been in talks with them on the supply of these items.

    New weapons

    As part of the revitalised Rooivalk programme, Denel is moving forward with certifying the Mokopa missile on the aircraft. Denel Dynamics surface targets group manager Petrus Mentz said that Denel is busy with Mokopa type certification aboard the Rooivalk and will have to do nine firings before this is achieved – two missiles were fired in 2011, and another two during the Rooivalk demonstration on 3 and 4 February.

    The first firing involved the Rooivalk successfully firing the missile at a target that was laser designated from the ground. The second firing the following day was not quite as smooth – the target was laser designated by a Gripen flying overhead. The Rooivalk launched the missile at a range of 8 km, which followed the laser beam from the Gripen, but narrowly missed the target.

    The 2011 tests used telemetry missiles, but 2016’s firings were designed to evaluate trajectory and penetration and long range capability in conjunction with an airborne remote designator. The 10 km range Mokopa has a dual anti-tank warhead able to penetrate 1 350 mm of armour, although Denel has developed a high explosive penetrator warhead for anti-shipping and other missions.

    At the Denel Overberg Test Range Denel also displayed the Rooivalk with a Denel Dynamics A-Darter air-to-air missile mounted on a stub wing. Denel officials said they were looking at the possibility of incorporating the missile into the Rooivalk and emphasised that this is an ongoing programme which has just started. It is possible to integrate the Mistral air-to-air missile on the Rooivalk.

    At the moment the Rooivalk is just fitted with 70 mm Forges Zeebrugge (FZ) rockets, which have a range of nine kilometres, and a 20 mm cannon. However, late last year a FZ laser guided rocket was test fired from the Rooivalk, giving accuracy of less than a metre from the target centre at 4-5 km. For the test, FZ used its own designator.

    The Rooivalk’s 20 mm F2 cannon has an effective range of 2 km. As it was adapted from the cannon used on the Ratel infantry fighting vehicle, it can use the Ratel’s barrel. This weapon was selected for ease of logistics. However, problems were encountered with the weapon – the shockwave would disturb the sight mirrors, but this problem was fixed in the 1F upgrade process. The Rooivalk boasts a versatile armaments and stores configuration which includes 20 mm Cannon, 8/16 long range precision guided missiles, 2/4 air-air missiles, 38/76 70 mm Rockets and 1/2 external fuel tanks.

    In 2004 the requirement for an upgraded baseline Rooivalk was established. In 2007 the government allocated R963 million until 2011 to get the Rooivalk fully operational. As part of this process, nearly 140 modifications were made to each aircraft, with attention being focused on the cannon and self-protection, targeting and communications systems and gearboxes to make them more accurate and reliable. A subsequent addition was drop tanks for long range deployments.

    The helicopter was subsequently upgraded in Blocks 1A, 1B etc. through to Block 1F, and is now simply called Rooivalk Mk 1. The first six Rooivalk Block 1F, or Mark 1, helicopters were officially handed over to the SAAF in April 2011, together with the aircraft’s full military type certificate. The remaining five aircraft had all entered service by March 2013.

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    The aircraft was subsequently deployed to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) at the beginning of November 2013 in support of the United Nations Force Intervention Brigade comprising South Africa, Tanzania and Malawi, and tasked with rooting out the 20 plus rebel groups in the DRC. Several days after the three Rooivalks, now painted white, arrived in the DRC, they engaged in their first ever combat mission. The following day, the M23 group called an end to its 20-month rebellion, saying it would disarm and pursue peace talks. “We believe M23 had to retreat because of the Rooivalk,” South African defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said after the rebels’ defeat.

    Following the positive performance of the helicopter in action, Mapisa-Nqakula called for production of the Rooivalk to resume. Speaking after a briefing on South African peace support mission involvement in March 2014, the minister said that Denel Aviation had to be pushed to restart production. “We have to assist them in whatever way to manufacture more because... everybody now wants a Rooivalk and they want a Rooivalk from South Africa...wherever you go right now people are talking about the Rooivalk and people would want to order the our defence industry must be beefed up, must be assisted as we have been doing.”


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