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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:30 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    but that fecking 5th-columnist dirtbag Anatoly Zak takes the opportunity to smear Russia again...

    not sure how Kremlin is terrified ? BTW Zak has or not? lol1 lol1 lol1  Kremli doesn't want Russia to switch  to  OneWeb simply because  


    A) western operator spy on all Russian traffic

    B) one order from Fashington and you're cut off

    BTW CEO of OneWeb
    6/6 satellites are up, panels deployed and healthy. Soyuz injection was within 300m!???? In the coming days they start climb to 1200km
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:39 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    but that fecking 5th-columnist dirtbag Anatoly Zak takes the opportunity to smear Russia again...


    And not a single person would pay attention to it if only Roskosmos bothered to hire a graphic artist and a blogger

    But no, they must make plans to send tourists to space while everyone has to go to Zak's website just to see how new rockets might look like, God forbid that designers and manufacturers of those rockets release a concept art...
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:06 am



    And not a single person would pay attention to it if only Roskosmos bothered to hire a graphic artist and a blogger

    Indeed, Management of Roscosmos has been paying very little attention to stuffs that actually matter. It makes one wonder if they are actually serious in the things they do. They leave so many loopholes that enemies of Russia can exploit whether its a simple pr stunt for the agency to actual security in its facilities (recent drill incident). The current situation is pretty upsetting
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    Post  kvs on Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:20 am

    Nibiru wrote:


    And not a single person would pay attention to it if only Roskosmos bothered to hire a graphic artist and a blogger

    Indeed, Management of Roscosmos has been paying very little attention to stuffs that actually matter. It makes one wonder if they are actually serious in the things they do. They leave so many loopholes that enemies of Russia can exploit whether its a simple pr stunt for the agency to actual security in its facilities (recent drill incident). The current situation is pretty upsetting

    Given the rotten mentality of the west, even if Russia put out fancy videos and graphics, it would be accused of propaganda and faking.

    Russia is shat on no matter what it does. So I find this "issue" to be a non-issue.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:53 am

    Zak knows exactly what he is saying... they don't pay people who don't say the right things and follow the cool aide mantra... he knows exactly what he is saying and why he is saying it...

    If Russia did the same no western news channel would mention it... facebook would block it and ban anyone from posting such Russian propaganda...
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:04 am

    Would be great if they live up to their statements



    Roscosmos set to make launches 100% successful this year


    MOSCOW, February 28. /TASS/. The supervisory board of Russia’s space corporation Roscosmos on Thursday set the task of making all of this year’s launches 100% successful, according to the office of Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who chaired the meeting of the company’s supervisory board.

    On top of that, the board tasked the company with 100% implementation of the state procurement order and of the import substitution program.

    During the meeting, the board approved the company’s financial plan for 2019 and key indicators of efficiency, which will be used to assess the efficiency of the company’s leadership this year.
    "The main indicators include: the share of high-tech civilian and dual-purpose production should be at 49% this year, the implementation of the state procurement order tasks - at 100%, the implementation of the import substitution program - at 100% and the success of launches - at 100%," the source said.

    Among last year’s most notable emergency situations was the aborted launch of the manned Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft. Following a smooth liftoff, a malfunction occurred between the separation of the first and second stages, and the crew was forced to abort the flight and switch to ballistic descent. The spacecraft ended up landing safely in the Kazakh steppe, with the crew unharmed. It was the first emergency situation with the launch of a manned spacecraft over the past 35 years.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:37 am

    Nibiru wrote:Would be great if they live up to their statements

    Roscosmos set to make launches 100% successful this year



    And why thy should not?


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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:07 pm


    And why thy should not?

    Talk is cheap, if they are able to actually pull it off and achieve 100% success then good for them.
    Dont get the wrong impression, I’m really hoping for Roscosmos to make great achievements in space, but they have to match their talk with concrete actions.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:22 pm

    Nibiru wrote:Talk is cheap, if they are able to actually pull it off and achieve 100% success then good for them.
    Dont get the wrong impression, I’m really hoping for Roscosmos to make great achievements in space, but they have to match their talk with concrete actions.

    You're being a little unfair. 2018 would have had a 100% success rate if it wasn't for the shaved ape who fecked up the strap-on on Soyuz MS-10. Given that the issue was human error and that there had not been an aborted ascent on a manned Soyuz since 1975 (ie the Soyuz is very reliable), I think its fair to say Roscosmos was extremely unlucky not to achieve a spotless 2018.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:19 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:2018 would have had a 100% success rate if it wasn't for the shaved ape who fecked up the strap-on on Soyuz MS-10.

    That's the thing, there are always some shaved monkeys that feck things up but they never get identified and prosecuted. Instead they stay on the production line while other monkeys cover for them.

    The good old boys club.

    Don't expected this 100% fantasy to come true, monkeys are still there and not going anywhere.



    Big_Gazza wrote:Roscosmos was extremely unlucky not to achieve a spotless 2018.

    Actually they were extremely lucky. This could have easily ended up in disaster (two disasters actually)

    But their luck will inevitably run out sooner rather than later, they are already on borrowed time.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:40 am

    Nibiru wrote:

    And why thy should not?

    Talk is cheap, if they are able to actually pull it off and achieve 100% success then good for them.
    Dont get the wrong impression, I’m really hoping for Roscosmos to make great achievements in space, but they have to match their talk with concrete actions.

    Who are the miracle workers that have zero annual failure rates?

    This discussion is absurd. Accident statistics cannot be tuned to desired levels. Such statistics show year to year variability and a stretch
    of zero accidents does not prove superiority and full management of the errors.

    As long as human wetware is involved there will be non-zero failure "errors".
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    Post  Isos on Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:40 pm

    I just had an idea. Maybe it was already discussed here.

    What about using Typhoon subs to launch satelittes with SLBM converted for satelitte launches.

    They already have the infrastructures for loading, the subs, and the missiles. The missile could even fall back in the water and probably float and be reused.

    Cold launch also keeps safe the launch pad which is the sub.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:52 pm

    Isos wrote:I just had an idea. Maybe it was already discussed here.

    What about using Typhoon subs to launch satelittes with SLBM converted for satelitte launches.

    They already have the infrastructures for loading, the subs, and the missiles. The missile could even fall back in the water and probably float and be reused.

    Cold launch also keeps safe the launch pad which is the sub.

    They already tried it decades ago, instant failure

    Besides, those rockets are decommissioned
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:05 am

    Akulas are not cheap subs and not exactly cheap to operate, but you could rip out all the launch tubes and put one launch tube that is raised for launching that launches from the surface... a few turbo pumps with water nozzles spraying sea water means any fire could be dealt with.

    The single missile launcher would be fine because you are not going to be launching missiles ten at a time... and being able to sail to the equator for launch offers the earths rotation to boost the speed of the payload... the sub has plenty of internal space for telemetry equipment and support crew.... you could probably use a big support ship with comms and radar and satellite comms systems...yeah, why not.

    Would be great in a bond film...
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    Post  Hole on Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:06 am

    A Delta III or IV launched a modified missile with small satellites (some were german) into space. End of the 90´s or so.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:04 am

    In Roskosmos thinking about creating a rocket plane with a nuclear engine

    MOSCOW, March 6 - RIA News . The enterprises of the rocket and space industry in the development of promising technology should focus on the creation of fundamentally new systems, such as nuclear-powered rocket planes, the Roscosmos proposal (a copy is available to RIA Novosti), compiled following a meeting on -space technology.
    "Planning for future development of reusable space systems should also include the consideration of fundamentally new layouts, such as nuclear-powered rocket planes. Such systems may in the future change the market for space launch vehicles and create new market niches," the document says.
    The development of the new technology, it is noted in the document, should be carried out, including using the experience of creating the Buran, Bor ships, winged Baikal stages and the MRKS for the Angara rocket.
    Earlier it was reported that the resident of the Skolkovo fund, the company Ison, is developing a project of a reusable rocket plane designed for flights in the atmosphere and space at hypersonic speeds. It is assumed that the device will be able to fly at altitudes of up to 160 kilometers at speeds of seven sweeps, or to bring spacecraft into orbit at an altitude of up to 500 kilometers. Each such hypersonic device is designed for at least 50 flights.
    Later, at the disposal of RIA Novosti, an image of a model of this drone appeared.
    It was also reported that in Russia, since 2010, the project is underway to create a transport and energy module based on a megawatt-class nuclear power plant. The Roskosmos enterprise is operating on the engine by the Keldysh Center along with the enterprises of Rosatom. The use of a nuclear engine in spacecraft is being worked out by another enterprise in the rocket and space industry - Arsenal Design Bureau. Earlier, the state corporation Roskosmos in one of its videos demonstrated the conceptual image of a new spacecraft with a nuclear power plant.


    https://ria.ru/20190306/1551577510.html






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    The development of a hypersonic spacecraft with a nuclear engine began in the USSR in the mid-1970s. Thanks to the atomic facility on board, its capabilities became almost endless. The project called "M-19" confidently developed in the design bureau Myasishchev.

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    Post  Austin on Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:16 pm

    Roscosmos and the Khrunichev Center plan to increase the reliability of the Proton

    https://vpk-news.ru/news/48812

    Earlier it was reported that in 2019 six launches of Proton-M missiles from the Baikonur cosmodrome are planned. The rocket is scheduled to operate until 2025. During this time about 20 rocket launches are planned.

    “Comprehensive work to ensure the reliability of launches of the Proton-M rocket will be continued. The management of Roskosmos State Corporation and the Khrunichev Center decided to develop a similar program aimed at improving the reliability and efficiency of the Proton-M launch vehicle and the Briz-M upper stage for the next three years - 2019-2021, ”says in a message posted on the website of the Khrunichev Center.


    Within the framework of the program, about 60 measures were implemented, including: identification, analysis and elimination of defects, malfunctions in the process of production and operation of rocket and space equipment; adjustment of design and operational documentation; measures to improve the quality of components of the Proton-M rocket and the upper stage.


    The results of their implementation are obvious today - from May 2015 to the present, 14 successful launches of Proton-M launch vehicles have taken place, - the words of the Deputy Director General of the Khrunichev Center for Foreign Economic Activity Andrei Pankratov are cited.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:57 pm

    Roscosmos CEO issues orders to install CCTV cameras on Russian segment of ISS

    More:
    http://tass.com/science/1047725


    Russian manufacturer develops equipment for research probe’s landing on Mars

    More:
    http://tass.com/science/1047679
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    Post  Hole on Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:59 pm

    Don´t forget an alarm system. Very Happy
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    Post  kvs on Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:07 pm

    Hole wrote:Don´t forget an alarm system. Very Happy

    Better yet, automatic purge system. So as to flush the Yanqui saboteurs into space.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:56 am

    kvs wrote:
    Hole wrote:Don´t forget an alarm system. Very Happy

    Better yet, automatic purge system.   So as to flush the Yanqui saboteurs into space.

    since Russia developed ISS underpressure toilet, it can be arranged lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:03 am

    "Roscosmos" began to prepare the robot "Fedor" to fly to the ISS

    https://ria.ru/20190306/1551595980.html


    MOSCOW, March 6 - RIA News. Roskosmos will soon prepare the Fedor robot for flight on the ISS on the Soyuz unmanned spacecraft that will go into space this summer, Alexander Bloshenko, adviser to the head of Roscosmos on science, told reporters.
    “Fedor, or rather his modification, which will fly to the Federation, is one story. We are working on this issue and planning. As for the question of flying to the Soyuz, this issue is being worked out within the framework of the launch schedule, which we are given, if a decision is made on the manned spacecraft Soyuz MC. In the near future, a specific format of this flight will be tested at the Baikonur cosmodrome, ”he said, without specifying details.

    Earlier, the executive director of the NGO "Android Technology" Yevgeny Dudorov told RIA Novosti that the developers of the Fyodor robot conducted its preliminary preparation for the flight to the ISS on the Soyuz spacecraft.
    Last year, a source in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti that Roskosmos was considering the possibility of flying two robots at once to the International Space Station on the Soyuz MS unmanned vehicle in 2019. As reported, the project received the name "cyberkick".
    Then it was reported that the landing of the Fedor robot in the Soyuz spacecraft was demonstrated to the head of the Roscosmos state corporation, Dmitry Rogozin.


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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:07 am

    Roscosmos CEO issues orders to install CCTV cameras on Russian segment of ISS

    More:
    http://tass.com/science/1047725

    So they aren't installing cameras on the spacecraft assembly line where endless stream of unsupervised idiots are running loose with power tools but they are installing it on ISS?

    Did they provide any explanation? Are they afraid that Americans will steal their space toilet?

    Morons every last one of them, Trampoline Man first and foremost...
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:30 am

    So they aren't installing cameras on the spacecraft assembly line where endless stream of unsupervised idiots are running loose with power tools but they are installing it on ISS?

    And who is going to sit through all that video to catch bad behaviour... been in lots of businesses who thought cameras were the solution... two of them didn't even know how to work them so it was money totally wasted... in another place the only person caught was the boss with one of the cleaning ladies...

    Did they provide any explanation? Are they afraid that Americans will steal their space toilet?

    It is well known Russian space toilet technology is better than American technology... when the US Space Shuttles docked with Mir the shuttle crew always used to use the space stations toilet... it was just better designed and easier to use...

    The Americans have also copied Soviet space suit design too...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:51 am

    And who is going to sit through all that video to catch bad behaviour...

    You go over that footage after those buckets crash in order to determine who is responsible.

    They wish they had footage now to figure out who hammers in rocket components and drills holes on capsules.

    Instead those morons are still running loose unsupervised.

    How long do you think they can ride on luck alone?

    When next spacecraft crashes and people die will you tell me how it is a great triumph of Russian space program because now they know at what temperature human who wears spacesuit gets roasted alive?

    The Americans have also copied Soviet space suit design too...

    No they didn't, they still use multi piece design.

    And even if they did that still doesn't change the fact that unsupervised morons are running loose in Roskosmos led by shaved chimpanzee.

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