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    victor1985

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  victor1985 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:26 pm

    Well written things here. Here in romania for example is a hip hop band called "the parasites". They promote parasitism like a kind of freedom and free express of madness inside boys. Here is promoted also separation between men and girls just like rockefeller. Because it was a conclusion that girls are evil and must stay separate to boys. Here also racism rule. The gypsyes for example are promoted like inferior people and that is done for creating a cult of liberal based arian people. Black people are promoted as the "poor kind of people who nature didnt offer much brain". Cult of black being brutal savages , and other things like this. Turning to USA trumph that just anounced his candidature to US presidency has said that imigrants are bunch of rapests and thiefs. First maibe he should say what are USA interventions in yhird world countryes and if there are economic hits upon other countryes. Then he should say about USA being from long time a country whit huge rate of law broken people. And a lot of them are native americans. Remember columbine high school ......remember 50 cents "the artist" incident..... And many others....
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:09 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Werewolf:

    What countries are liberals destroying and how are they doing that? Because I see something exactly opposite - it's impossible (I repeat-  IMPOSSIBLE) to become prosperous without adopting  western liberal economic system together with western legal institutions  - and ALL non-western countries that succeeded economically (Turkey, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia) have done exactly that. There simply is no other way. Nowhere. It never was and will never be.

    Yuck. Western Exceptionalism at its finest. Sleep

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  victor1985 on Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:57 pm

    Absolutelly true. Who said that only and only west could bring something valuable in the world? Why not russia being a world center? Or india or africa or china or whatever....
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    Walther von Oldenburg

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:02 pm

    victor1985 wrote:Absolutelly true. Who said that only and only west could bring something valuable in the world? Why not russia being a world center? Or india or africa or china or whatever....
    All of them have a long way to go if they want to be world centers. Western world is not inherently exceptional - but since ~1400 AS it was iprincipally it's contributions that drove the world forward - and they still do
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  flamming_python on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:52 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:Absolutelly true. Who said that only and only west could bring something valuable in the world? Why not russia being a world center? Or india or africa or china or whatever....
    All of them have a long way to go if they want to be world centers. Western world is not inherently exceptional - but since ~1400 AS it was iprincipally it's contributions that drove the world forward - and they still do

    Mostly because it was exceptional in its sophistication of applying violence, dividing & conquering, and keeping control over the rest of the world.
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:Absolutelly true. Who said that only and only west could bring something valuable in the world? Why not russia being a world center? Or india or africa or china or whatever....
    All of them have a long way to go if they want to be world centers. Western world is not inherently exceptional - but since ~1400 AS it was iprincipally it's contributions that drove the world forward - and they still do

    Mostly because it was exceptional in its sophistication of applying violence, dividing & conquering, and keeping control over the rest of the world.
    You are both wrong and right. You simply mistake the effect for the cause.

    You cannot be shortsighted, flamming_python.
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:47 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:Absolutelly true. Who said that only and only west could bring something valuable in the world? Why not russia being a world center? Or india or africa or china or whatever....
    All of them have a long way to go if they want to be world centers. Western world is not inherently exceptional - but since ~1400 AS it was iprincipally it's contributions that drove the world forward - and they still do

    Mostly because it was exceptional in its sophistication of applying violence, dividing & conquering, and keeping control over the rest of the world.
    You are both wrong and right. You simply mistake the effect for the cause.

    You cannot be shortsighted, flamming_python.

    You are wrong, FP is absolutley correct. This has little to do with anything else but white superiority believes and even among whites some call themselfs as the exception of the exceptionals. You can have totally technological superiority but you would still be destroyed by US with its very astonishing and widespread soft and hard force projection along with media total control meaning you can feed the population that they are shrimps in human form and after enough and after the same methods USrael is using today people would eventually start believing it. History and Social Conditioning is the highest technology humanity has brought to light. You can destroy civilisations by WORDS alone, Feather beats sword. With Swords you can destroy many lives but you will not destroy who they are, their culture, history, their society and their zeitgeist, with the Feather and the methods USrael is using since its existence is doing exactly that, destroying history (revisionism) or just simply telling one side while letting out the bad and good things depending on its purpose. Destroying culture, ethnicities, inventing ethnicities like Ukrainian and forcing people to kill their own people.

    FP is right, they are indeed exceptional in their knowledge and mastering of this technology of forming history and diving people and then keeping this process in control to their advantage, they formed Germany that way, a coward country where most germans were told they are beasts that are responsible for WW2, while you can't find enough people alive who even could have been even remotley connected to any kind of atrocities of those times.

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  victor1985 on Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:04 pm

    In this case russia must be a very efficient country on develop relationship with other countryes. First of all russia should get in front his eqilibrate wiev over money of rich people. In times when USA means rich and opulence russia could be a factor of stability for the common man from across the world. Should be a country where rich people arent allowed go powerfull than they are and they have a fixed place in economy. After all rich people are just nothing for common people just a wheel in the economic mechanism and they should be exactly like this.
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:22 pm

    Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.
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    Neutrality

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Neutrality on Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:06 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.
    This is an excellent opportunity for Russian liberalists. Nemtsov can follow in her footsteps too. In fact, let Saakashvili recruit the entire 5th column in Russia and hand out government positions to them so they can finally have their own "country" to build the liberal heaven that they wanted in Russia.
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:58 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.
    Appointed by Saakashvili, well that's another nail in the coffin of the "liberal pro-Western movements" in Russia. Rolling Eyes
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:00 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.
    This is an excellent opportunity for Russian liberalists. Nemtsov can follow in her footsteps too. In fact, let Saakashvili recruit the entire 5th column in Russia and hand out government positions to them so they can finally have their own "country" to build the liberal heaven that they wanted in Russia.
    Nemtsov is dead, what are you going on about?? Suspect
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    Neutrality

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Neutrality on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:10 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.
    This is an excellent opportunity for Russian liberalists. Nemtsov can follow in her footsteps too. In fact, let Saakashvili recruit the entire 5th column in Russia and hand out government positions to them so they can finally have their own "country" to build the liberal heaven that they wanted in Russia.
    Nemtsov is dead, what are you going on about?? Suspect

    Errr, I meant to say Navalny. Sorry Laughing
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  kvs on Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:36 pm

    Don't sweat it! They are all the same shite keen to sell their countrymen down the river.
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    Neutrality

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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  Neutrality on Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:16 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Daughter of prominent Russian reformer appointed vice-governor of Ukraine's Odessa region

    Go figure.

    She stated the following:

    -The conflict in Ukraine is a war between Russia and Ukraine
    -The 2008 war was on behalf of Russia's provocation
    -Crimea must return back to Ukraine

    She's destroying the image of Russian NKOs and I love it. Disgracing the memory of the families of those peacekeepers who were shelled by Georgians and disrespecting the choice of millions of Crimeans. She has polictically murdered herself by associating with someone who started a war against Russia and now these comments.
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    Re: Russian Liberal Opposition

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:29 pm

    Also the fact that she sided with a wanted criminal back home and what is considered a joke and a piss poor excuse for a human being in the world, kinda gives indication that she was a washed up nobody and she took this job because it was this or nothing, and she got it because of name only, and she is of Russian heritage.

    Like how Navalny gets pelted with eggs now wherever he goes, my bet is this same whore would end up the same, or worst. After Ukraine, she will probably flee west, like that Russian MP whom is on international wanted list for syphoning money from Skolkovo.

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