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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 15, 2019 11:40 am

    Ah, speaking of liberals, it appears there was a mini maiden in Ekaterinburg. Not surprising since it is the city that holds the Yeltsin center.

    Anyway, people are protesting the development of a church in a park that is never used. Yes, they have a music player (like Kievs piano bit this time a Girl playing the Chello) and even words of "Glory to the heros" we're heard.

    23 people arrested of course. But I can't find number of people who partook in this crazyness.

    https://twitter.com/yralo4ka196/status/1128542180417712128?s=19
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    Post  kvs on Wed May 15, 2019 2:52 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Ah, speaking of liberals, it appears there was a mini maiden in Ekaterinburg. Not surprising since it is the city that holds the Yeltsin center.

    Anyway, people are protesting the development of a church in a park that is never used. Yes, they have a music player (like Kievs piano bit this time a Girl playing the Chello) and even words of "Glory to the heros" we're heard.

    23 people arrested of course. But I can't find number of people who partook in this crazyness.

    https://twitter.com/yralo4ka196/status/1128542180417712128?s=19

    It's all about optics. A few clowns demonstrating is turned into some "millions strong, people power movement". The usual rent-a-crowd
    regime change theater. The Maidan was a slightly bigger version that enabled the Banderite power grab. Claims by CNN et al that nearly one million people participated was pure BS. The absolute upper bound on the Maidan was 180,000 and was for most of the time
    much smaller than this. But in the end some clowns engaged in street theater robbed the vast majority of Ukrainians of their freedom.

    The clowns in Ekaterinburg have no chance of foisting any sort of coup. Their job is to feed NATO propaganda narratives about massive
    discontent in Russia. This includes gross violation of the law to prompt a police response. Then NATO propagandists can point to
    the law enforcement as "oppression". Naturally, NATO sheeple will never get any context and relevant facts that undermine the NATO
    propaganda narratives.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 15, 2019 2:57 pm

    I mean, I don't figure it would amount to much but what do you think cause Maiden to be successful in Ukraine vs than any event in Russia?

    I think it was because Yanukovich ran.
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    Post  kvs on Wed May 15, 2019 3:21 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I mean, I don't figure it would amount to much but what do you think cause Maiden to be successful in Ukraine vs than any event in Russia?

    I think it was because Yanukovich ran.

    Either Yanukovich had not actual power to deploy the military to deal with the 10,000 militants who took over the Maidan by January of 2014, or he was a limp noodle moron who thought that "peaceful dialogue" with cut-throats was going to succeed. I think he did not
    have enough actual power, and the Party of Regions did not either. So the Banderite minority rolled over them with little effort.
    This must have been the work of Yuschenko who likely installed all sorts of Banderite elements throughout the government structure that
    served to create paralysis at the critical moment. Coups are not localized in time to a few days, they take years to arrange. But
    it was the Maidan theater that enabled the coup by essentially stripping the appearance of authority from the government. The opposition
    was then able to capitalize on the moment and carry out their plan.

    I think Putin faced similar issues in 2000 since there was a lot of rot under Yeltsin (e.g. Litvinenko was installed into the FSB by
    gangster oligarch Berezovsky who was appointed to the Russian Security Council by comprador Yeltsin). Ukraine's situation was made worse
    by the strong Banderite infestation and weak leaders who let Washington and gangster oligarchs pull the strings. Yanukovich may have
    been in a much more difficult situation than Putin, but he was not up the job. Reminds me of Maduro, who coasted on Chavez's
    accomplishments and let the country go to hell in a hand basket. Chavez, Putin, etc. are very rare leaders who manage to succeed
    in the face of overwhelming odds. The vast majority of politicians are a waste of space that whore for special interests and sell
    the voters down the river. That is why rotten NATO can dominate the world and leaders like Putin drive them insane.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 15, 2019 5:14 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I mean, I don't figure it would amount to much but what do you think cause Maiden to be successful in Ukraine vs than any event in Russia?

    I think it was because Yanukovich ran.

    Either Yanukovich had not actual power to deploy the military to deal with the 10,000 militants who took over the Maidan by January of 2014, or he was a limp noodle moron who thought that "peaceful dialogue" with cut-throats was going to succeed.   I think he did not
    have enough actual power, and the Party of Regions did not either.  So the Banderite minority rolled over them with little effort.  
    This must have been the work of Yuschenko who likely installed all sorts of Banderite elements throughout the government structure that
    served to create paralysis at the critical moment.  Coups are not localized in time to a few days, they take years to arrange.   But
    it was the Maidan theater that enabled the coup by essentially stripping the appearance of authority from the government.  The opposition
    was then able to capitalize on the moment and carry out their plan.  

    I think Putin faced similar issues in 2000 since there was a lot of rot under Yeltsin (e.g. Litvinenko was installed into the FSB by
    gangster oligarch Berezovsky who was appointed to the Russian Security Council by comprador Yeltsin).   Ukraine's situation was made worse
    by the strong Banderite infestation and weak leaders who let Washington and gangster oligarchs pull the strings.  Yanukovich may have
    been in a much more difficult situation than Putin, but he was not up the job.   Reminds me of Maduro, who coasted on Chavez's
    accomplishments and let the country go to hell in a hand basket.  Chavez, Putin, etc. are very rare leaders who manage to succeed
    in the face of overwhelming odds.  The vast majority of politicians are a waste of space that whore for special interests and sell
    the voters down the river.  That is why rotten NATO can dominate the world and leaders like Putin drive them insane.


    I think what Putin did by instating the National Guard to fall directly under the president was the smart thing to do. It prevents more or less third parties within the government from taking control of authorities that would tell them to stand down against foreign funded protestors. I know Berkut in Ukraine was more than willing to continue on defending but it was the SBU that worked against them. FSB and Russian intelligence agency seems to be a different cause - much more in line similar to in Venezuela where they are more willing to protect their own nation than it is to sell it off. I dont know 100% but I believe it was that very reason the Russian national guard was created in first place; to allow the president use the internal security forces as sees fit and not get stopped by any crooked individual.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu May 16, 2019 9:08 am

    But in the end some clowns engaged in street theater robbed the vast majority of Ukrainians of their freedom.

    Amazing what you can get for a bag full of cookies...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 21, 2019 3:03 am

    I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it
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    Post  kvs on Tue May 21, 2019 3:00 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 21, 2019 3:01 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue May 21, 2019 4:44 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.

    I found it strange how on that site they (the admins) claimed that the INF Treaty ending was a great disadvantage for RU MOD, only to be refuted a week later by an absolute jewel of a rare interview by Yuri Solomonov, probably the foremost expert on hypersonic weaponry. So who (the admins of militaryrussia) do they think the people will believe, the random bloggers on their boutique forum, or the lead designer of Avantgarde lol?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 21, 2019 5:30 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.

    I found it strange how on that site they (the admins) claimed that the INF Treaty ending was a great disadvantage for RU MOD, only to be refuted a week later by an absolute jewel of a rare interview by Yuri Solomonov, probably the foremost expert on hypersonic weaponry. So who (the admins of militaryrussia) do they think the people will believe, the random bloggers on their boutique forum, or the lead designer of Avantgarde lol?

    Can you provide that interview please? For my sake at least.

    As well, the issue is blogs are becoming rather very important in day to day activities in Russia. Bloggers are now able to obtain monetary gain but have to provide their real info. They get invited to key events, etc. A recent article was presented by Tass that 20% increase in finances was directed to NGO's in Russia from abroad and that they were having a meeting about it today in Duma regarding the foreign agents law (they want to tighten it further since there seems to be a continuous flow of money from abroad). I would not be surprised if such blogs are funded by such people.
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    Post  Arrow on Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm

    I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny wrote:


    Shocked really? He creates an interesting blog with a lot of information about Russian weapons.
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    Post  kvs on Tue May 21, 2019 6:00 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.

    I found it strange how on that site they (the admins) claimed that the INF Treaty ending was a great disadvantage for RU MOD, only to be refuted a week later by an absolute jewel of a rare interview by Yuri Solomonov, probably the foremost expert on hypersonic weaponry. So who (the admins of militaryrussia) do they think the people will believe, the random bloggers on their boutique forum, or the lead designer of Avantgarde lol?

    Can you provide that interview please? For my sake at least.

    As well, the issue is blogs are becoming rather very important in day to day activities in Russia. Bloggers are now able to obtain monetary gain but have to provide their real info. They get invited to key events, etc. A recent article was presented by Tass that 20% increase in finances was directed to NGO's in Russia from abroad and that they were having a meeting about it today in Duma regarding the foreign agents law (they want to tighten it further since there seems to be a continuous flow of money from abroad). I would not be surprised if such blogs are funded by such people.

    Indeed. This is a prime example of soft power. Social media and bloggers are propaganda and culture distortion tools. Bloggers
    spread all sorts of BS and twist facts. Social media generates mobs that shame and attack any dissident.

    Here is an article relevant to this topic:

    https://russia-insider.com/en/media-criticism/what-ever-happened-anti-war-liberals-crushed-mass-media-information-mafia/ri27080
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue May 21, 2019 6:05 pm

    Yes Arrow, Dimmitry is a 5th column.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue May 21, 2019 6:45 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.

    I found it strange how on that site they (the admins) claimed that the INF Treaty ending was a great disadvantage for RU MOD, only to be refuted a week later by an absolute jewel of a rare interview by Yuri Solomonov, probably the foremost expert on hypersonic weaponry. So who (the admins of militaryrussia) do they think the people will believe, the random bloggers on their boutique forum, or the lead designer of Avantgarde lol?

    Can you provide that interview please?  For my sake at least.

    As well, the issue is blogs are becoming rather very important in day to day activities in Russia.  Bloggers are now able to obtain monetary gain but have to provide their real info.  They get invited to key events, etc.  A recent article was presented by Tass that 20% increase in finances was directed to NGO's in Russia from abroad and that they were having a meeting about it today in Duma regarding the foreign agents law (they want to tighten it further since there seems to be a continuous flow of money from abroad).  I would not be surprised if such blogs are funded by such people.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed May 22, 2019 5:19 am

    Yes Arrow, Dimmitry is a 5th column.

    Well if Arrow likes the site then it must be a 5th column... no question about it.

    And foreign funding is a great thing because the Russian government can track who gets funding and shut them down for being a foreign agent... like the US did with Butina... except instead of turning a pro American Russian into a hater of US politics, they will be eliminating anti Russian bloggers in their country... cut off their information... they will keep tweeting but without real information about new stuff people who are interested in the stuff but only find blogs with these dicks posting their anti russian shit will start to look elsewhere.

    What they also need to do is invite pro russian bloggers to events and let them hear leaks that are officially sanctioned so westerners like me who are interested in Russian stuff but not interested in the anti russian western BS can read stuff that is interesting and useful, without the anti putin anti russia BS attached.
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    Post  kvs on Wed May 22, 2019 4:57 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I notice dimmi at military Russia.ru is a fan of Zelensky and Navalny. Someone I follow got blocked by him when called out on it

    Lots of anti-Russian poser slime out there.


    So I was wrong, it wasn't Dimmi. It's the owner of the site militaryrussia.ru Kornev.

    I found it strange how on that site they (the admins) claimed that the INF Treaty ending was a great disadvantage for RU MOD, only to be refuted a week later by an absolute jewel of a rare interview by Yuri Solomonov, probably the foremost expert on hypersonic weaponry. So who (the admins of militaryrussia) do they think the people will believe, the random bloggers on their boutique forum, or the lead designer of Avantgarde lol?

    Can you provide that interview please?  For my sake at least.

    As well, the issue is blogs are becoming rather very important in day to day activities in Russia.  Bloggers are now able to obtain monetary gain but have to provide their real info.  They get invited to key events, etc.  A recent article was presented by Tass that 20% increase in finances was directed to NGO's in Russia from abroad and that they were having a meeting about it today in Duma regarding the foreign agents law (they want to tighten it further since there seems to be a continuous flow of money from abroad).  I would not be surprised if such blogs are funded by such people.


    Solomonov may be a great rocket engineer, but he should stay away from moronic claims about how a few hundred megaton class ballistic missiles would
    destroy the planet and civilization. This is an utterly inane claim. Those 600 hundred megaton warheads don't even have the energy of a mesoscale convective
    complex. Their "global destruction" would have to come from fires that were ignited in the wake of their detonation. The notion that these fires would
    even lead to "nuclear winter" is BS.

    Pinatubo managed to produce a 2 year global anomaly thanks to its injection of 10 million tons of SO2 into the upper startosphere. There is no wet scavenging
    in the stratosphere since it is bone dry (3-6 ppmv H2O) without any rain or snow. Even so, the sulfate that formed from the SO2 and partially blocked out sunlight
    did not persist for more than two years. Surface fires will inject black carbon and organic and inorganic compounds that form aerosols and can temporarily block
    out a fraction of the sunlight reaching the surface. But these aerosols cannot last for years or even most of a year in the troposphere since they will be wet
    scavenged by rain and ice meteor formation from the clouds that form from the activation of those same aerosols (clouds do not form from homogeneous nucleation).
    There is a vast amount of biomass burning on this planet but there is zero evidence of any "nuclear winter" since the whole concept is absurd.

    This moronic nuclear winter myth is clearly affecting decision makers as evidenced by Solomonov's comments. So it is clear that it is a propaganda parasite
    implanted to paralyze rational decision making. Disarmament is predicated on this pernicious myth.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 22, 2019 5:19 pm

    Don't worry. Russia like USA has supercomputers to calculate damage and what not of each weapon system. So they base their needs upon what their tests state.
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    Post  kvs on Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Don't worry.  Russia like USA has supercomputers to calculate damage and what not of each weapon system.  So they base their needs upon what their tests state.

    My point is that MAD is effective and the best anti-war "device" ever. To have MAD you need an excess of nuclear weapons and not "just the right amount".
    You can see how cocky Uncle Scumbag got with his ABM delusion as the number of Russian warheads went down. If Uncle Scumbag was facing 1980s levels
    of warheads he would be peeing his bed and not claiming he could take Russia out with a pre-emptive strike and "stealthy" B-2s (cf The Diplomat magazine).
    Solomonov and anyone else who yaps about "destroying the world several times over" is an ignoramus.

    BTW, since I do HPC atmospheric chemistry and dynamics simulations for a living, I know the limitations of models. Estimating the impact of
    nuclear weapons on the environment is challenging since predicting the extent of fires and the associated spectrum of aerosol precursor emissions
    is hard/impossible. Not all cities will burn to the ground after being nuked. Not every forest in the vicinity will ignite and burn. It all depends on the
    relative humidity and the location of petrochemical facilities, oil depots, and any other points of ignition. Panchevo was bombed by NATO in 1999 and
    burned, but no fire spread to Belgrade. So fire spreading is a critical parameter. An air burst does mostly mechanical damage in spite of the intense
    radiation spike (that burns the skin badly). This radiation spike is too short lived to really ignite wood and plastics but long enough to damage the skin.
    So I highly doubt that top level policy people are even requesting such simulations. They just lap up the BS about nuclear winter as clearly is the
    case with Solomonov.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu May 23, 2019 4:13 am

    Maybe they need to go back to looking at neutron bombs and high radiation weapons that will really permanently damage environments to assure MAD.


    The most dangerous thing on the planet is not Russia or China or even Iran with thousands of nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them... the most dangerous thing is the US thinking it can not only survive, but actually win a nuclear war.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:52 pm

    Russians love to complain.

    So I noticed on Twitter that so many of them are bitching about all the liberal hamsters as they call them, insulting the dead sailors (some news writer for echo of moskow glorified their deaths) and some shithead running in politics in Moscow pretty much trashing the whole Russian army during WW2. Anyway, they complain and ask "why isn't authorities doing anything?"

    There is a reason why the liberals will win. They do what they want and the rest of the public is so fucking lazy they complain on Twitter but does absolutely nothing outside.

    Why don't they go protest? They don't.

    You see, you have to hand it to Muslims. They don't take shit even if their belief may not be correct. They at least stand up for what they believe in. Russians are just annoying and after Putin is gone, that country will be Ukraine 2.0
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    Post  kvs on Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:51 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Russians love to complain.

    So I noticed on Twitter that so many of them are bitching about all the liberal hamsters as they call them, insulting the dead sailors (some news writer for echo of moskow glorified their deaths) and some shithead running in politics in Moscow pretty much trashing the whole Russian army during WW2. Anyway, they complain and ask "why isn't authorities doing anything?"

    There is a reason why the liberals will win. They do what they want and the rest of the public is so fucking lazy they complain on Twitter but does absolutely nothing outside.

    Why don't they go protest? They don't.

    You see, you have to hand it to Muslims. They don't take shit even if their belief may not be correct. They at least stand up for what they believe in. Russians are just annoying and after Putin is gone, that country will be Ukraine 2.0

    You are using a poor metric. By the same token the current SJW mobs in the USA and the west are also "lazy and doing nothing". They
    love to complain on Twitter too. How do you propose that the complainers "demonstrate"? Do they lay siege to the offices and homes of
    the kreakls? Maybe Russians should just kill them on the spot for daring to have the wrong opinions?

    You miss the most important detail. All these complainers tell us that the vast Russian majority will never vote for Navalny and any
    other NATO stooge candidates. So the only way the liberasts will win is via some coup. Do you seriously see a chance for a coup in
    Russia today? From who? The army? Academia? No freaking way. Russia has had a national consensus on the political front for almost
    20 years. No amount of effort by NATO to stir discontent and to break this consensus has succeeded.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:06 pm

    You make a point but the number of these hamsters as they say are growing rather fast.

    There seems to be a general theme though. Navalny people (Sobol as example) are growing in numbers as candidates to run for Moscow city Duma. Which I find interesting. Where are they getting their money from? It's obvious from the west, but that in itself is illegal. Thus they would instantly be thrown out. But they aren't.  So rule of law isn't being enforced.

    What it looks like is Navalny is trying to flood the city Duma elections with various of his own candidates. I don't think that's allowed.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:04 pm

    Well for the next round of sanctions they have some fairly obvious choices.... they can target the people and organisations funding the opposition in Russia... a combination of seizing the funds and putting them to work for the Russian people and also cutting ties and relations with people and organisations trying to sabotage democracy in Russia will be deliciously fun for them to do rather publicly... a nice expose of the people at both ends of these strings being used to destroy Russia from within would be amusing.

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