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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:25 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:
    talking about Satellites.. how's the "Polyus" project ?.. has Russians completely given up on it or maybe..want to revive it.. instead of placing ICMB on space... the Polyus can be used to to protect the ICBM en-route to target area.. intercepting the Interceptors.. i feel it's promising since the US and Japan have already began to research a "multiple Interceptors".. a concept looks similar with early Soviets "Istrebitel Satellite" by using a Sat to carry multiple small kinetic interceptor.. that will intercept the warhead along with anything its carries like Decoys.. or Jammers.

    Polus is dead as long as militarisation of space is not conducted. To intercept ICBMs were are coming out with C-500 which will be the most capable in the world.

    Polus may be dead (more then likely a storage unit), and in case of a space based threat, it can become operational. That is the wonders of Soviet technology, is that they expanded and experimented with almost every aspect of military for past,present and future. Difference is, most where prototypes. But the technology has advanced for Russia during the years (especially in the last 5 years), and these old projects (if the blue prints are still existent) can be risen from the tomb and be compatible with today's technology.
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    Post  Vladislav on Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:23 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:

    Polus is dead as long as militarisation of space is not conducted. To intercept ICBMs were are coming out with C-500 which will be the most capable in the world.

    People are saying US is working on militarization of space. We should be prepared.
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    Post  Russian Patriot on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:31 am

    Vladislav wrote:
    Vladimir79 wrote:

    Polus is dead as long as militarisation of space is not conducted. To intercept ICBMs were are coming out with C-500 which will be the most capable in the world.

    People are saying US is working on militarization of space. We should be prepared.
    Yes we should, there won;t be another SALT.

    and can these satelites poinpoint the Chechens terrorists that have activied in Dagestan?
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:10 am

    Russian Patriot wrote:

    and can these satelites poinpoint the Chechens terrorists that have activied in Dagestan?

    Cosmos satelites are the only way and their intel is worthless. That is why we need UAVs... badly.
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    Post  Turk1 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:43 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Cosmos satelites are the only way and their intel is worthless. That is why we need UAVs... badly.

    Your Cosmos recon sats are the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Who is going to launch a satellite to take pictures, and then drop the film back to earth and hope it doesn't burn up?
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:06 pm

    Turk1 wrote:
    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Cosmos satelites are the only way and their intel is worthless. That is why we need UAVs... badly.

    Your Cosmos recon sats are the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Who is going to launch a satellite to take pictures, and then drop the film back to earth and hope it doesn't burn up?

    It was good back in the day when any intel pics were better than none... now I agree with you. They are quite obsolete.
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    VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:32 am

    Russian Defense Ministry orders 64 Su-family fighters
    RIA Novosti

    17:35 18/08/2009 MOSCOW, August 18 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Defense Ministry and the Sukhoi aircraft maker signed on Tuesday a contract on the delivery of 64 Su fighters to the Russian Air Force.

    The contract, signed during the MAKS-2009 air show in Zhukovsky near Moscow, stipulates the delivery of 48 Su-35 by 2015, and 12 Su-27SM and four Su-30M2 multirole fighters by 2011.

    The value of the contract was not disclosed, but according to open sources, the cost of a Su-35 fighter, billed as "4++ generation using fifth-generation technology," is estimated at up to $65 million.

    The head of Vnesheconombank (VEB), Vladimir Dmitriyev, announced at the air show on Tuesday that the national development bank would grant Sukhoi a 3.5 billion-ruble ($109 million) loan to start mass production of Su-35 jets.

    The Su-35 fighter, powered by two 117S engines with thrust vectoring, combines high maneuverability and the capability to effectively engage several air targets simultaneously using both guided and unguided missiles and weapon systems.

    The aircraft also features the new Irbis-E radar with a phased antenna array, which allows the pilot to detect and track up to 30 air targets, while simultaneously engaging up to eight targets.

    It is equipped with a 30-mm cannon with 150 rounds, and can carry up to eight metric tons of combat payload on 12 external mounts.

    Russia's Air Force commander, Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin, said in July that up to three air regiments would be equipped with Su-35 fighters in the future.

    Russia also plans to export at least 160 Su-35 fighters to several countries including India, Malaysia and Algeria.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:02 am

    Is there some reason you are trying to bold the title? It doesn't work.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:29 pm

    20 fighters per year
    20.08.2009

    Signed a long-awaited contract to supply aircraft for the Air Force (IAF). Signed a long-awaited contract to supply aircraft for the Air Force (IAF). By 2020, the Air Force Russia can get almost 200 new fighter aircraft production. By 2020, the Air Force Russia can get almost 200 new fighter aircraft production.

    The general director "Sukhoi" Mikhail Pogosyan, and Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin was signed today at the Zhukovsky air show MAKS-2009 in the presence of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's historic contract - or rather, three separate contracts - to supply up to 2015 Air Force Russia 64 new fighter jets, including 48 advanced Su-35 fighters, 12 Su-27SM and four sparok Su-30m2. The general director "Sukhoi" Mikhail Pogosyan, and Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin was signed today at the Zhukovsky air show MAKS-2009 in the presence of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's historic contract - or rather, three separate contracts - to supply up to 2015 Air Force Russia 64 new fighter jets, including 48 advanced Su-35 fighters, 12 Su-27SM and four sparok Su-30m2.

    Chided KLA KLA chided

    At KLA, announced Putin - debt 120 billion rubles., Including 60 billion rubles. At KLA, announced Putin - debt 120 billion rubles., Including 60 billion rubles. unsecured, but the government will not be responsible for the mistakes of management of the KLA. unsecured, but the government will not be responsible for the mistakes of management of the KLA. Government has approved dokapitalizatsiyu Sukhoi to 3.2 billion rubles., Putin said, and considering new dokapitalizatsii "MiG" at 15 billion rubles. Government has approved dokapitalizatsiyu Sukhoi to 3.2 billion rubles., Putin said, and considering new dokapitalizatsii "MiG" at 15 billion rubles. in addition to the 15 billion already allocated. in addition to the 15 billion already allocated.

    According to the Sukhoi, a five-year contract to supply of Su-35 will be completed before 2015, and Su-27SM and Su-30m2 will be delivered before the end of 2011 the first Su-35 will be presented to the Air Force in late 2011

    President of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Alexei Fedorov said that the cost of the contract - 80 billion rubles. President of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Alexei Fedorov said that the cost of the contract - 80 billion rubles. and is the largest contract in the history of the Air Force of Russia. and is the largest contract in the history of the Air Force of Russia.

    Military contract and became the main event of the first day of the airshow. Military contract and became the main event of the first day of the airshow. Vladimir Putin, his gracious presence at the signing of the contract, then watched the aerial performances Russia's newest aircraft and inspected the exhibition, visiting pavilions of foreign companies, KLA and Rostekhnologii. Vladimir Putin, his gracious presence at the signing of the contract, then watched the aerial performances Russia's newest aircraft and inspected the exhibition, visiting pavilions of foreign companies, KLA and Rostekhnologii.

    Putin has visited and the ceremony of signing an agreement between Vnesheconombank and Sukhoi Civil Aircraft "for cooperation in moving the aircraft SuperJet; Vnesheconombank and Sukhoi signed an agreement on cooperation in the development of the Su-35 - This fighter was initially created on credit Vnesheconombank . visited Putin and the signing ceremony of an agreement between Vnesheconombank and Sukhoi Civil Aircraft "for cooperation in moving the aircraft SuperJet; Vnesheconombank and Sukhoi signed an agreement on cooperation in the development of the Su-35 - This fighter was initially created on credit Vnesheconombank.

    A source in the Defense Ministry said that it was discussed and other Air Force contracts with the domestic aircraft industry and longer-term supply. A source in the Defense Ministry said that it was discussed and other Air Force contracts with the domestic aircraft industry and longer-term supply. According to him, it is estimated that up to 2015 except for 48 Su-35 can be ordered 24 high, but lighter MiG-35 (a deep modification of MiG-29 radar with active phased array antenna, the aircraft involved in the tender for the supply of 126 fighters for the Indian Air Force at a cost of $ 10 billion). According to him, it is estimated that up to 2015 except for 48 Su-35 can be ordered 24 high, but lighter MiG-35 (a deep modification of MiG-29 radar with active phased array antenna, the aircraft involved in the tender for the supply of 126 fighters for the Indian Air Force at a cost of $ 10 billion). And from 2015 to 2020 can be ordered 24 more Su-35 and to 48 MiG-35. And from 2015 to 2020 can be ordered 24 more Su-35 and to 48 MiG-35.

    This information was confirmed and the manager of one of aviation companies. This information was confirmed and the manager of one of aviation companies. But, according to both, the agreement for the supply of all these machines - it's not 2009. But, according to both, the agreement for the supply of all these machines - it's not 2009.

    According to the military, this year discussed the five-year contract to supply 60 combat training aircraft Yak-130, but wait until the Air Force supply the first batch of 12 machines of this type.

    In view of the 36 MiG-29SMT repealed by the Algerian contract that had already begun to arrive in the air and on display at Max, and with all the plans up to 2020, the most likely time deliveries began production of fifth generation fighter aircraft, military aircraft Russia will have 196 new fighter jets. In view of the 36 MiG-29SMT repealed by the Algerian contract that had already begun to arrive in the air and on display at Max, and with all the plans up to 2020, the most likely time deliveries began production of fifth generation fighter aircraft, military aircraft Russia will have 196 new fighter jets.

    Member of public council under the Ministry of Defense Igor Korotchenko said that admission to the Air Force Su-35 Russia will open the way to conclude a contract for the delivery of these aircraft in China. Member of public council under the Ministry of Defense Igor Korotchenko said that admission to the Air Force Su-35 Russia will open the way to conclude a contract for the delivery of these aircraft in China. A purchase of MiG-35 will be very important for the competitiveness of the car in the Indian tender, which will be attended by world leading manufacturers of combat aircraft. A purchase of MiG-35 will be very important for the competitiveness of the car in the Indian tender, which will be attended by world leading manufacturers of combat aircraft.

    Alexei Nikolsky, Anastasia Dagaeva Alexei Nikolsky, Anastasia Dagaeva

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:10 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:Is there some reason you are trying to bold the title? It doesn't work.

    no its just a habit that needs to stop
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    VVS purchased 6 billion in advanced weapons

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:30 pm

    RF Air Force signed a contract for the purchase of advanced weapons to 6 billion rubles
    24/08/2009

    RF Air Force and the corporation Tactical Missiles concluded on Friday in the MAKS-2009 agreement to 6 billion rubles for the supply of modern weapons for the Air Force, told reporters Air Force Commander Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

    "Over the next two years, Russia will receive the latest air missile system, which will consist of 14 different types of weapons," - says Zelin.

    Agreement was signed by director general of Tactical Missiles "Boris Obnossov and Air Force Commander of Russia Zelin.

    According to the Commander in Chief, is one of the most significant arms purchases to replenish the arsenals of the Air Force in the modern history of Russia. "The new weapon will be used for the destruction of aircraft - both manned and drones. These weapons will also work on targets on land and at sea," - says Zelin.

    He also noted that the Air Force after the signing of this contract will have an effective weapon for solving problems of air defense.

    UAV bee -1 "works on the principle of" saw-struck. " Together with the multiple launch rocket systems air reconnaissance is becoming a serious danger to the enemy.

    At the request of journalists, he explained that the 14 items of new complexes have the rocket K-31 and its changed to-35 air-to-air missiles.

    The general director "Tactical Missiles Obnosov his part stressed that military weapons are purchased with the increased noise immunity, increased warhead, as well as" all-weather and round the clock. "

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:10 pm

    Russia Air Force for two years will receive 14 items of new tactical missile
    24/08/2009

    Zhukovsky, 21 August. (ARMS-TASS). Russia Air Force will receive 14 units of a new tactical missile to destroy air and ground targets in the next two years, said at the MAKS-2009 Air Force Commander Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

    At the cabin air force of Russia and the corporation Tactical Missiles signed a two-year contract to supply 14 items of air attack weapons in the amount of 6 billion rubles.

    "Air Force will receive 14 items of new weapons, which could solve the problems imposed on the new purchased aircraft and aircraft undergoing modernization," - says Zelin.

    "The contract in the modern history of Russia's air force is one of the most significant", - said the commander in chief. According to him, "Air Force will receive a new effective weapons for air defense tasks.

    In addition, Zelin said that this year the Air Force also prepared to take more than 20 types of tactical missile from Russia's enterprises, including the rocket corporation "TRV".

    "Currently at the stage of completion are promising developments of new weapons are going to test it at landfills Air Force" - the general added.

    In the nomenclature of the samples of weapons that will receive the Air Force, the number of missiles Kh-31 and X-35 class "air - surface", as well as missile R-77 class "air - air.

    In turn, the head of the corporation Tactical Missiles "Boris Obnosov (left photo) said that" Russia's air force must have the best and most effective weapon, and they will get it quickly and without delay. "

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    Simulators for Su-34 and Mi28N

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:11 pm

    Russia Air Force will have simulators for crew training Su-34 and Mi-28N
    25/08/2009

    Center for scientific and technical services of Dynamics completes the creation of two new integrated flight simulators for training pilots of fighter-bombers Su-34 attack helicopters and Mi-28N Night Hunter, "which work is conducted for the Ministry of Defense of Russia. It is reported AviaPort with reference to the general director of the company of Alexander Litvinenko.

    Simulator for training of crews Su-34 will be passed in November 2009 the Center deployment and retraining of pilots, engineers and technicians of the Air Force of Russia in Lipetsk. Aviatrenazher Mi-28N receives Center of Air Force combat Torzhok in the Tver region. His transfer to take place before the end of this year.

    Recall that, according to a recent statement by the Acting Chief of the Air Armament Russia, Major-General Oleg Barmina, Mi-28N has become a major domestic attack helicopters of Army Aviation. His state tests were completed in late 2008, and taking into account the pre-production party, the center in Torzhok already delivered 12 cars.

    Su-34, according to the military, in the future form the basis of Russia's air force strike capability. Defense plans to buy up to three hundred of these aircraft. It is planned that by 2020 they should completely replace the outdated fleet of Su-24. In March 2009 a flight on this machine has made the president of Russia Dmitry Medvedev.

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:29 pm

    I guess those Su-35BM will have L-band AESA radar in their wings ... WoW


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:23 am

    That should really increase the situational awareness for the pilot. It is going to take some major bandwidth to process all that information.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Stealthflanker on Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:16 pm

    L-band.. this RADAR is likely a part of the Flanker's MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System)

    BTW any news on Epaulet AESA ?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:25 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:L-band.. this RADAR is likely a part of the Flanker's MAWS(Missile Approach Warning System)


    I'm thinking it has something to do the same as the passive radar on the wings of F-35.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:38 pm

    Well its a radar designed to detect LO/VLO at greater distances from other.
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    Russia plans to develop 5th-generation 'stealth' helicopters

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu May 13, 2010 8:24 pm

    Russia plans to develop 5th-generation 'stealth' helicopters
    RIA Novosti

    18:3613/05/2010 MOSCOW, May 13 (RIA Novosti) - A Russian helicopter company is planning to develop the world's first fifth-generation combat helicopter, which experts say would be able to attack fighter jets and be invisible for radars, the Gazeta daily said on Thursday.

    "We are working on the concept of the fifth-generation combat helicopter," the paper quoted the company's CEO, Andrei Shibitov, as saying at a news conference in Moscow.

    Shibitov did not specify the characteristics of the helicopter, but said the company was going to spend some $1 billion on the project, with more investment expected to be allocated from the state budget.

    The official said the Mil design bureau had been working on a classical rotor model, which features a large main rotor and a smaller auxiliary rotor, while the Kamov design bureau had been developing a coaxial rotor model.

    Military experts believe that the coaxial rotor model is more stable and easy to fly while the classical model is more reliable and has a higher degree of survivability on the battlefield.

    First deputy head of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Issues, Konstantin Sivkov, told the paper that fifth-generation combat helicopters have never been built before, although the United States has recently begun working on a similar project.

    He said a fifth-generation combat helicopter must have a low radar signature, a high noise reduction, an extended flying range, be equipped with a computerized arms control system, be able to combat fighter jets (existing helicopters are generally only intended to hit ground-based targets) and reach a speed of up to 500-600 km/h (310-370 mph).

    The project cannot proceed, however, unless it is backed by the government.

    "If the government does not sign a contract, the idea will die on the vine," head of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Issues Leonid Ivashov told Gazeta.

    Ivashov said that with sufficient investment and good organization the new helicopter could be built within five years. Otherwise, the project may drag on for 20-30 years.

    But he was somewhat skeptical about the chances of carrying out the project.

    "We have been trying to tackle everything - fifth-generation planes, fifth-generation helicopters, but nothing of this have so far been supplied to the army - today the army still uses helicopters produced in 1970s," Ivashov said.

    Russia's main combat helicopter, the Mi-24 Hind, is a third-generation helicopter, and a few Mi-28 Havoc, Ka-50 and Ka-52 Hokum, which have just started to arrive in the Russian army, are fourth-generation helicopters.

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 14, 2010 1:28 am

    I have the same problem with this as I had with commanche.
    On most battlefields to date the greatest threat to helicopters has been ground fire in the form of small arms and man portable SAMs.
    It really doesn't make much sense to go to the expense and effort to make an aircraft stealthy that will fly low and slow and can be damaged by small arms fire.
    Stealth relies on materials and shaping... once you start punching holes in it it stops being so stealthy.
    Increasing the speed and intelligence of helicopters is a big tick, I agree with that, that is a good idea, but if you want a stealthy aircraft to shoot down enemy fighters a large interceptor with a weapon bay full of long range missiles and a huge AESA with a tried and true low probability intercept mode of scanning for targets makes more sense than the equivelent helo.
    A stealth interceptor can see further and reach further and see better and carry more and stay longer.
    Helicopters are used against ground targets because that is what they are best at.

    When the Hokum was first spotted it was considered to be an air to air fighter aircraft too, and the reality is that compared to even a 3rd generation fighter, or even a jet fighter trainer with a gun pod it would have problems.

    A Mig-23 could detect it from relatively long range and take potshots at it from a distance with R-23 and R-24 missiles and there is little the Ka-50 could do about it.
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    Russian fighter jets make first ever nonstop flight across Russia to Far East !

    Post  Russian Patriot on Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:58 pm


    Russian fighter jets make first ever nonstop flight across Russia to Far East

    RIA Novosti

    12:45 04/07/2010

    VLADIVOSTOK, July 4 (RIA Novosti) - Russian fighter jets have performed the first ever nonstop flights from European Russia to the Russian Far East with in-flight refueling as part of the Vostok-2010 military drills, Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov said on Sunday.

    "For the first time ever, we have tested a possibility for fighter jets to fly from aerodromes in the European part of Russia to eastern airfields in the Far Eastern district without landing, with in-flight refueling and the delivery of strikes according to assignments received during the flight," Makarov said.

    The exercises, which have entered their naval phase in the Sea of Okhotsk in the Russian Far East, are being overseen by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on board the heavy nuclear-powered cruiser Pyotr Veliky.

    When asked by the president about how many refuelings had been required for the fighter jets, Russia's top military commander answered that it had taken Su-24M Fencer fighter-bombers three refuelings and for new Su-34 Fullback strike aircraft two refuelings.

    The drills, Vostok-2010, began on June 29 in Russia's Far East training areas and involved some 10,000 troops and around 1,000 items of military hardware. The first phase of the drills ended on Saturday. The second, naval phase launched on Sunday, will see the involvement of several times more service personnel and military equipment. The exercises continue until July 8.

    Apart from the Pyotr Veliky cruiser of the Russian Northern Fleet, the drills also involve the Guards guided missile cruiser Moskva of the Black Sea Fleet.

    As part of the drills, the Armed Forces will practice the deployment of additional troops in Siberia and the Far East to reinforce the existing military contingent in the region in case of a military conflict.

    Russia holds Vostok strategic command-and-staff drills every two years.


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    Russian frontline, army aviation to be completely rearmed in 10 years

    Post  Russian Patriot on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:56 pm


    Russian frontline, army aviation to be completely rearmed in 10 years

    RIA Novosti

    13:58 14/08/2010

    MOSCOW, August 14 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Air Force will entirely rearm its frontline aviation and army aviation within the next 10 years, Air Force Commander Colonel General Alexander Zelin told the Ekho Moskvy FM station on Saturday.

    The frontline and army aviation will see 100% rearmament, and the military transport aviation will be updated by 70%, Zelin said.

    He emphasized that the Air Force is higher-priority military service and the shaped plans would be unambiguously carried out.

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:46 am

    I have read somewhere recently that Frontal aviation and also army aviation will be directly controlled by the new districts they operate in and that they wont be at the bottom of the airforce chain of command anymore.

    Kinda makes sense to me as such forces are very much more related to the Army as their role is to directly support the army on the battlefield.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:54 pm

    The frontline and army aviation will see 100% rearmament

    100% must mean reductions of 80%. There are only a couple hundred attack jets and helicopters slated for frontal aviation over the next 5 years. Don't see how they will increase that by much when they have to replace upgraded Soviet rust buckets in the same time frame. At the rate we are going we will have an air force of 300 attack craft. France couldn't even live with that.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:06 am

    The thing I have a problem with is that now they are going all multirole with their aircraft the separation of fighter and bomber is blurred.
    For instance under the old system the Mig-29 was a short range interceptor. If there was nothing left to intercept then it could carry dumb bombs in a very basic mud mover role. The Su-27 was the same, it was a long range interceptor/escort fighter, that could use rocket pods and dumb bombs when there was nothing left to intercept.
    Frontal aviation was mainly concerned with attacking ground targets and while it had interceptors and fighters that was mainly to protect the Army and itself from air attack. Its ground attack and Combat air support aircraft were supposed to support attacks by the army and included Su-25s, Su-17s, Mig-27s and the like.
    Now the only dedicated ground support aircraft are helos and the Su-25 with the Su-34 used for deep strike and SEAD type missions.
    What I am getting at is that most of frontal aviations aircraft used for ground attack are now withdrawn from service and the Su-25 remains but it alone cannot do the job.
    The Mig-29SMT and Mig-35s and the Su-27SM and Su-35s will perform the role of fighter and bomber and would support the Army by hitting mid range targets on the battlefield.
    Deep targets like HQs, comm centres, large SAM sites, etc would be hit by a mixture of Su-35 and Su-34s most likely, or indeed Tu-22M3s or even Tu-160s perhaps.

    The thing is that there will barely be enough Su-27SM and Su-35 and Mig-29SMT and Mig-35s in service for both frontal aviation and the airforce... unless they upgrade a lot more Su-27s and Mig-29s to SM and SMT standard respectively for the job.
    A Mig-29SMT can drop a satellite guided bomb from 8,000m on a guerilla base just as effectively as a Mig-35 could, but it would cost rather less.

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