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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:53 am

    Typical for this pseudo-liberals. If the government raises the retirement age its the poor people. It if doesn´t the whole country will be bancrupt in a few years.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:27 pm

    Hole wrote:Typical for this pseudo-liberals. If the government raises the retirement age its the poor people. It if doesn´t the whole country will be bancrupt in a few years.

    dont forget to add - Putin incompetent in internal politics because bloggers have better insight into real state of affairs (both internal and international right? lol1 lol1 lol1



    Wow - DAT is news. A rail to South Korea via North one ... trade less Pindos influence and resources without fleet. I hope this materialize

    Trutnev admitted that South Korea and Russia will discuss cooperation with the DPRK


    https://ria.ru/economy/20180606/1522150982.html



    Putin and Xi Jinping will discuss transport corridors, Trutnev said

    VLADIVOSTOK, June 6 - RIA Novosti. The development of international transport corridors (MTC) Primorye-1 and Primorye-2 will be discussed at a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chairman of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping, said Deputy Prime Minister - presidential envoy to the Far Eastern Federal District Yuri Trutnev.

    Putin on the eve of a visit to China prepared a surprise for Xi Jinping
    "On transport transitions, the calculated position, including the volume of traffic on our part, is the same as that of the Chinese, they are quite significant so far." I will participate in the negotiations of Vladimir Putin with Xi Jinping three days later, I would like to put this issue in. I think that it will have to change the configuration a little, but we will ensure that the corridors were built, "Trutnev said at a meeting with journalists in the Far East Media Summit in Vladivostok.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/economy/20180606/1522149822.html
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:12 pm

    Industry and Trade Ministry plans to extend tax free to all Russian cities in 2019


    The tax free system was launched in Russia in January 2018

    MOSCOW, June 6. /TASS/. The Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade of plans in 2019 to extend the tax free system to all Russian cities after a pilot project in the cities hosting the 2018 FIFA World Cup, Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said on Wednesday.

    "After testing the pilot tax free project, we plan to extend it to the whole country starting from 2019," he said.

    Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Viktor Yevtukhov told TASS earlier that the tax free system will be launched in several cities hosting the 2018 World Cup from April 10.

    "Starting from April 10, the outlets that will participate in the system, within the locations, so far the limited number that were defined, will be able to do it. Thus, the foreign citizens who purchase goods that are now in the system will be able to receive a partial VAT refund," Evtukhov said.

    He expects the system to launch across the country by the end of 2018. "I hope that by the end of the year we will develop it all over Russia. I think that at the end of the year it will be decided that we will move from pilot to work across Russia," he added.

    According to Evtukhov, VAT refund within the system will be partial - 10-12% of price of goods with the purchase of at least 10,000 rubles ($173).

    The tax free system was launched in Russia in January 2018, but the electronic document circulation between retailers, the system operator, the Federal Customs Service, the Federal Tax Service and the buyer will not start until October 2018.

    The 2018 FIFA World Cup will be held in Russia from June 14 to July 15 in 11 cities. The question whether there will be enough time to create a domestic operator of the tax free system remains open. At the end of March, Head of the Finance Ministry's tax department Alexey Sazanov told TASS that the tax free system at the airports of the cities hosting the 2018 FIFA World Cup will be launched by early June. It is planned that the Russian operator will work together with two foreign companies - Global Blue and Premier Tax Free.


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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:35 pm

    The railway project is on the table for ten years or so, like a gas pipeline and electricity lines. The then south-korean government was for it, then the same thing happend as with Bulgaria. Surprise elections. New government. Good Ami. Evil Russians. No deal.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:59 pm

    Hole wrote: Surprise elections. New government. Good Ami. Evil Russians. No deal.

    But now with Tronald Dump's policy whir aing gonna happen again and I can be Berliner too !

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  ZoA on Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:41 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    ZoA wrote:

    If almost 40% of Russian male population already dies before retirement this would become even more ugly if retirement age would be increased to 65 years. This is part of the idea, as all forced pension savings of those people that died before retirement would be expropriated by pension fonds.

    seriously do you have data? besides blogger specialists' "data"?
    In most of western countries life expectancy if closer to 80 than 70. In Russia grows too. What would you expect to retire a woman on 55 when she lives 25+ years at expense of somebody else's children? right?
    Or man?  in Eu they want to get over 70 retirement age... dude or you have 4 kids per family and die fast.





    Lesson is that liberal anti labour and pro “competitiveness”  economic policies newer contribute to stable economic growth, they only facilitate impoverishment  of the population and generate

    Seriously where is the logical link between longer working years  to impoverishment? any data to support? real data?
    Germany and France next years will get to 67 years. So they are so poor and run by incompetent people right? show me country where retirement age decrease?!
    Japan 62 and directing till 68
    USA  67 for born since 1960
    Israel  67

    So which of above countries is run by incompetent people wanting color revolutions on their grounds huh?

    FFS are you really that clueless and incompetent? It takes 30s search to discover life expectancy of Russian male is around 66 years, in another words near half will drop dead before they reach pension under new bill.    

    And I literally spent 2 extensive posts explaining how retirement age extension will result with unemployment crisis when combined with extant economic conditions, and you are still unable comprehend it. How clues are you so you cant understand even most basic supply and demand relations?

    But then again you are the same loon that is gushing enthusiastically over appointments of known traitors and US assets to high government positions of Russia. Or so oblivious to push stagnant economies dependant on exploration of cheap foreign labour with domestically undeveloping or even declining living standards as examples to be emulated.  Next you going to be proclaiming Yeltsin was a genius and how Medvedev should be more like Yegor Gidar.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:18 pm

    Most russians work after their official retirement. Because they need more money or they want it. Which difference would if make if you retire with 50 and work until you´re 70 (or you drop dead) or retire with 60 and work until you´re 70 (or drop dead)?
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:08 am

    ZoA wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    So which of above countries is run by incompetent people wanting color revolutions on their grounds huh?

    FFS are you really that clueless and incompetent? It takes 30s search to discover life expectancy of Russian male is around 66 years, in another words near half will drop dead before they reach pension under new bill.    


    your language is boorish and manners lacking so let me have you tasted your medicine:  


    You are an incompetent moron with problems in understanding simple text right? now focus, I will write slowly as you cannot read fast:  
    Making a breakthrough in life expectancy by increasing it from today's 73 to 78 by 2024 is a top priority for the Russian healthcare system
    http://roscongress.org/en/sessions/uvelichit-prodolzhitelnost-zhizni-k-2030-godu-kak-reshit-zadachu/about/

    So in 2024 life expectancy is longer.  And pension reform is till when 2030? so moron do you see this now? it is likely in 2030 when retirement age will reach 65 likely Russian men will live till 80s
    Besides there are a few kids and too many people to pay pensions as simple as that. You dont understand that this is like 10 years for reform? dont you?





    And I literally spent 2 extensive posts explaining how retirement age extension will result with unemployment crisis when combined with extant economic conditions, and you are still unable comprehend it. How clues are you so you cant understand even most basic supply and demand relations?

    It is not about number of sentences but bout facts an data. Now there is like 5,8% jobless rate in Russia vs 21 % Greece,  17% Spain or BiH -26% . So where is this workforce over-supply in Russia genius?
    Russia is lacking workforce and numbers of qualified workforce will decrease in coming years. The problem is to keep economy running Russia has to assume immigration politics ASAP. How will you staff new factories without qualified people?!

    Tell me genius one more thing - how 1 employee can pay 2 pension for early pensioners and accumulate money to his/her retirement same time? what magic sources say?! how does it relate to bliss and harmony ind economic growth?





    And now would you prefer me to keep using your boorish lingo or shall we continue with normal cultured conversation? shall we? Thanks

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:15 am

    Hole wrote:Most russians work after their official retirement. Because they need more money or they want it. Which difference would if make if you retire with 50 and work until you´re 70 (or you drop dead) or retire with 60 and work until you´re 70 (or drop dead)?

    Simply because in Russia is demographic depression (from 90s) and there is not enough workforce.


    It took long time to make right decisions huh?

    The Central Bank does not exclude the preservation of sanctions against Russia until 2022

    MOSCOW, June 6. / TASS /. The Bank of Russia in its forecast for 2019-2021 does not exclude the preservation of sanctions restrictions against the Russian Federation. This is stated in the draft "The main directions of the development of the financial market in the Russian Federation for 2019-2021 years."

    "Within the framework of the three-year forecast, observing a conservative approach, the Bank of Russia does not exclude the preservation of imposed sanctions restrictions, in this context, the development of domestic sources of financing is especially urgent, given that access to external sources can be limited," the document says.

    At the same time, as one of the participants in the world financial market, the Central Bank intends to continue the process of integrating the Russian financial system into the world, developing cooperation with the leading international financial organizations.

    "This will bring best practices to the domestic financial market, increase its competitiveness and investment attractiveness, provide a comparable regulatory burden, create conditions for attracting long-term investors to the Russian economy," the regulator said.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:58 am

    Got nothing to do with the size of the workforce. Why should a 50 year old man go home and sit around in his garden? He still has energy, knows his job and propably likes the people at his working place. And more money is always good. The law allows it, so he officially retires, gets his pension and still go to work.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:37 pm

    Take a look at the latest Putin's conference.. "The wisdom" of Putin in action..  Neutral

    he was asked when will the Pressure on Russia by the west will end ???


    His answer , not surprising Putin Fail Response...

    basically he told , the west pressure(sanctions and hostilities) on Russia will end ,
    when americans "gets tired of sanctions"  (tired of beating Russia) so they will
    see sanctions don't work and so they will change their stance.  Rolling Eyes

    you will need google translate ,but already explained what he told..

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VsWrlFmOiA


    You think about it.. US have history of sanctioning nations FOREVER and not dropping those
    sanctions . Cuba have been for more than 50 years in sanctions ,North Korea too.. Then you have
    Iran.. for a couple of decades or more.. It is true what Putin claims that "Sanctions don't work"..
    in such absolute terms? No... Western sanctions do work.. they are slowing down significantly Russia economy.
    is not achieving what the west wanted , total collapse of Russia , but still they doing damage to Russia economy..
    He can't say "it doesn't work" because it do slowdown Russia nation development in a major way.. Russia economy
    lost like $200 billion dollars since 2014.. in sanctions alone and then Oil prices forced Russia to reduce the nation budget in many zones up to 50%.  So Sanctions do work..not as much as US expected , ie.. provoke Russia
    economy to crash just liek soviety unions did. or significantly slow the economic development of Russia.
    So this means that Americans WILL NOT drop sanctions ever, because they lose NOTHING in keeping them in place but win instead ,because it weakens Russia economy ,it humiliates Russia image in the world as a weak country and if that wasn't enough it damage Putin

    America sanctions will only end.. when..
    1)Russia use its military in a limited way to force Americans towards peace.. by force..
    this will make for the first time ,Americans to suffer consequences and major losses for their actions..
    2)Or when Putin take the decision to transform Russia ,(either alone or with China help). into a true indepenent
    nation ,that  replace American most popular praised business.and lead in space..  The pressure will end when
    Russia becomes a a real world leader instead of a follower of the west. attracting European union into the Russia orbit. if Russia was leading completely in space ,then Americans will see  IT NEEDS RUSSIA.. this is when the sanctions will end.. ONLY when the west see ,they can benefit enormously from a friendship with Russia.
    but that change of heart will not happen until Putin, wake up ..and see that Russia face an image problem .consequence of his short sight policies..

    Being polite and friendly will not help Russia get in the place it wants of respect. Americans only respect 2 things
    Leadership and Force and Russia don't show or use any of them. This was even warned by George Gallaway.. he
    went to RT to warn Putin.. Don't expect for a second that being soft and polite will calm its enemies. they want Russian Blood and Russia needs a strong Response to any new attack.. But i don't think military force, is necessary ,if only Putin understood how to counter US influence in the world.. by defeating their top US most popular innovative business. it will bankrupt US economy and on top of that will attract Europe into the Russian orbit.

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Austin on Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:31 pm

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5269145

    Minpromtorg: over 50% of OPK products are equipped with domestic electronics

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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:23 pm

    Simply because in Russia is demographic depression (from 90s) and there is not enough workforce.

    I'm calling Bullshit on this one. I know many Russians and they tell me that there's large unemployment among young people especially in smaller cities like pskov, Naberezhniye Chelny, Syktyvkar, etc. Its not that there is no workforce, Russian employers simply dont feel like hiring young people just like in the neoliberal west.


    Also you still have no arguments against introducing a much needed income tax instead of exploiting an aging workforce and taxing poor people.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    Simply because in Russia is demographic depression (from 90s) and there is not enough workforce.

    I'm calling Bullshit on this one. I know many Russians and they tell me that there's large unemployment among young people especially in smaller cities like pskov, Naberezhniye Chelny, Syktyvkar, etc.  Its not that there is no workforce, Russian employers simply dont feel like hiring young people  just like in the neoliberal west.

    Also you still have no arguments against introducing a much needed income tax instead of exploiting an aging workforce and taxing poor people.

    Here is a tip for you dipshit: take that advice you just gave and apply it in Bulgaria first.

    Let us know how it went down (spoiler: last time you tried it, it failed miserably) Razz
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:37 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    Simply because in Russia is demographic depression (from 90s) and there is not enough workforce.

    I'm calling Bullshit on this one. I know many Russians and they tell me that there's large unemployment among young people especially in smaller cities like pskov, Naberezhniye Chelny, Syktyvkar, etc.  Its not that there is no workforce, Russian employers simply dont feel like hiring young people  just like in the neoliberal west.

    Also you still have no arguments against introducing a much needed income tax instead of exploiting an aging workforce and taxing poor people.

    Here is a tip for you dipshit: take that advice you just gave and apply it in Bulgaria first.

    Let us know how it went down (spoiler: last time you tried it, it failed miserably) Razz

    Why do you think I support Bulgaria's politics? We're a neoliberal colony  with our means of production exploited by western europe. We're a lost cause. I dont want Russia to permanently go on a neoliberal path like KURVAdrin wants, and suffer Bulgaria's fate. This is because neoliberalism causes ensures the death of countries and makes their populations emigrate, hate their own country for being poor and assimilate into western culture. In effect the west is supplementing its white demographic by assimilating self hating slavs. Slavs hate their countries because their countries are poor. Why are their country's poor? Because of neoliberal atlanticist elites controlling them at the behest of the Western Empire.

    And BTW, you Serbs keep voting for drooling retard Pro-EU traitors, so stick your tip deep into your ass just like how Serbs with Stepan Lazarevich prostrated themselves to the Turks.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:50 am

    I am also interested who is this competent economists? bloggers who was never in politics? commentators?

    Nikolai Starikov, Rostislav Ishchenko,Boris Titov, Maxim Suraykin, Pavel Grudinin, Sergey Glazyev, Maxim Suraykin.
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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:13 pm

    Hole wrote:Got nothing to do with the size of the workforce. Why should a 50 year old man go home and sit around in his garden? He still has energy, knows his job and propably likes the people at his working place. And more money is always good. The law allows it, so he officially retires, gets his pension and still go to work.

    But iit is! if you can keep experienced people working longer you get billions on skilled workers and spent billions lees on pensions




    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    I am also interested who is this competent economists? bloggers who was never in politics? commentators?

    Nikolai Starikov, Rostislav Ishchenko,Boris Titov, Maxim Suraykin, Pavel Grudinin, Sergey Glazyev, Maxim Suraykin.

    OK so when Glazyev said about no need for pension reform? did anyone of them said Putin is  mediocre leader?  affraid  affraid  affraid
    I have never heard bout it. But quote will help me to understand.

    BTW none of them anytime was in politics so they know a little of real situation dont they? Suspect Suspect Suspect





    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    Simply because in Russia is demographic depression (from 90s) and there is not enough workforce.

    I'm calling Bullshit on this one. I know many Russians and they tell me that there's large unemployment among young people especially in smaller cities like pskov, Naberezhniye Chelny, Syktyvkar, etc.  Its not that there is no workforce, Russian employers simply dont feel like hiring young people  just like in the neoliberal west.


    Also you still have no arguments against introducing a much needed income tax instead of exploiting an aging workforce and taxing poor people.

    and how earlier pensions where trillions are spent on low pensions (that will get even lower) and  not on investments  in roads, construction, R&D an help


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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Vann7 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:52 pm

    haha...Here is an interesting Keyser report..

    Love when i see Doctors in Economy who teach in Universities , agreeing with me...
    with what United States is doing , how they build their empire.. here is it a summary what he told..  Cool



    United States objectives to hold its Empire are..
    1)Monopolization of the finances..
    2)Monopolization of the natural resources , the basic things every nation needs to develop. ie.. Energy and Materials and food.
    3)Monopolization of HIGH- Technology..

    So i underlined this , because this is where Russia is failing BIG Time..  

    US have Intel ,Microsoft ,Apple ,Nvidia ,Amd, DELL , all companies dominates technology industry , then you
    have entertainment industry,software industry ,that depends on technology so i need to continue? but what about
    other nations that produce innovative technology ? guess what? Americans Government controls it. Japan,South korea ,Singapur ,Taiwan ,Part of the American System.. and they have very nice military bases there too ,or in case of taiwan ,their existence depends on US military support ,to make sure they will always be loyal to US.. and if they told ,to not share technology with Russia ,they will do it..


    Russia is working through BRICS is a first but small step in offering competition to US financial monopoly..  , and through gazprom and rosnet and Rosatom to end US monopolization of Energy.. but is doing NOTHING with #3.  Is allowing US to take control of all innovative technology in the world.    No

    Now lets combine this with what Obama Told after past elections in a conference..

    Obama..."Russia's economy "doesn't produce anything that anybody wants to buy," except oil, gas and arms."

    When you connect the dots of what Americans have said to downplay Russia , they have exactly
    have explained to Putin why Russia sucks in the eyes of the west..

    It leads in NOTHING that people really wants ,needs or can buy.

    So technology ,technology and technology This is Russia achille heels innovative business based on consumer technology,but is not just any technology.. is not the same producing coffee maker , that inventing a next generation Computer that there is not alternative in the world to it.. and everyone in the world wants..  Intel is a world wide Business ,that no nation in the world have anything to counter it.. or alternative to it..  Americans are also monopolizing Entertainment industry too,, youtube ,twiiter ,gaming industry ,music industry ,movie industry ,This is very important things ,because influence the young generations but also adults.,this are the people who will dominate future world protest.. the young  generations was behind the Euromaidan revolution in Ukraine.. This means that if Putin have 2 choices .. he either allows Americans to influence its young generation ,or Russia do it..

    US  wants to monopolize popular technology ,and they know very well how important this is it.. and doing a pretty darn good job at it..( thanks to Putin's short sight vision and Ignorance.) Because they know by dominating future looking technology , they can control the masses not only young generations but also general business too. because this is technology that is EXTREMELY important for business too.. Try building a company and ban people from using Smart Phones.. and instead use old beepers to communicate or dial phones. Or try building a nation ,without internet ,to see how far you go.. that NOT surprisingly Americans control too..

    US also wants to monopolize SPACE...and already have a monopoly in the semiconductor industry which is also innovative technology..

    So what Russia government don't get ,and many in this forum either is that is is not only about nationalizing
    a bank ,or decreasing the interest rate or not.. or about investing more or less in agriculture. but the QUALITY of the economy is SUPER extremely important too.. Is not the same thing a nation that leads in Rice production.. versus a nation that leads in SPACE exploration..  Rice you can buy it anywhere.. in poor third world nations.
    in any third world nation.. but you can't buy Space Rockets in third world nations.. only a hand full nations
    only can do that.. and only 2 or 3 nations in the world have rockets that can send humans to space.

    This is why Russia cannot continue to ignore US attempts to monopolize top innovative technology in the world.
    By controlling Japan , South korea and Taiwan.. US can isolate any country of computers ,of smart phones and
    any entertainment and communication tech.. by controling Internet too..  all this are abysmal short commings
    of Russia as a nation. to fail in the most important things ,that can allow Russia to project major influence in the world..  

    The real irony is that Russia will not have a need of any hypersonic missiles at all . no need of armata or any other modern military weapon.. if Russia had a Technology Innovative business industry that surpassed the American one.Because no longer US will be able to influence any nation in the world.. if Russia have everything
    that US business produce and better.

    Putin is promoting Sports nationalism , Olympics.. that is 1-2 weeks of fame  temporary event that everyone
    will forget by the end of the month .Big Stupid Waste of money. But people will use their iphones , their PCs.. their internet for many years.. non stop every day.. for unlimited time.. and the only changes to this will be to get a newer model of their favorite technology.

    In comparison to Russia.. what they already have..
    Americans power comes from their LEADERSHIP , in innovative technology industry.. NO MORE AND NO LESS.
    but this is where Russia is abysmally behind ,is simply not even with any plans at all to counter it at all..  No
    Russian duma counter sanctions were UNABLE TO sanctions Top American technology giants.. because Russia
    citizens needs it.. And Russia government neither can sanction the american internet because they also need it..
    so see the pattern here?  and ironically americans neither were able to Sanctions Russia space program.. because THEY NEED IT..  

    So if Putin  had a clue of how to fight back Americans.. he will truly understand , that the medals Russia needs to win is not at the olympic events , or with bigger nukes.. instead were Russia needs to win ,is in developing a REAL MODERN innovative economy ,based of technology exports and a real ambitious space program. including an alternative to American internet.. This is when Americans will know their Empire is in real big trouble..and the last nail in the coffin of the US empire , will be a Russia first manned landing in the moon , for real ,not with fake movies and as a bonus , outmatching companies like Intel and Microsoft.. This will force them into  total retreat ,
    and they will see ,if they don't make an alliance with Russia business in near term . then risk losing everything they achieved in the last 70 years.. how does that sound ? reversing 70 years of american development is not a small thing by showing equal or better things ,is not a small thing.


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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:25 pm

    Which tech leadership? Amiland builds monopolies because the EU and Japan let them. Russia can´t do this because western countries want let this happen. So russian companies have to compete in 3. world countries which means they grow slower.

    The best example is Google. The brain of this company and ist founder is a russian. Google could only grow so fast in the west. Imagine what would have happened if a russian company had come to european countries with the intention to film every road and load the pictures into the internet. Western politicians would have gone mad.

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:45 pm

    Hole wrote:Which tech leadership? Amiland builds monopolies because the EU and Japan let them. Russia can´t do this because western countries want let this happen. So russian companies have to compete in 3. world countries which means they grow slower.

    The best example is Google. The brain of this company and ist founder is a russian. Google could only grow so fast in the west. Imagine what would have happened if a russian company had come to european countries with the intention to film every road and load the pictures into the internet. Western politicians would have gone mad.


    This is because of the short sight vision of Russian leaders.. Putin's Russia major goals was nothing more than
    that turn Russia into the Saudi Arabia of Asia ,they have invested a huge fortune in pipelines for this.. close to 1 trillion dollars in developing its energy business. and will be funny to see US blocking Gazprom energy business
    with Europe.. because it will show the total idiocy of Putin's policy if develop something that Americans can counter it. While developing business that everyone likes and NO OTHER alternative in the world exist is a totally
    different thing.

    American have been for decades developing a monopoly in technology and integrating their innovative technology industry with every other leader in technology too .. And Russia have allowed US to dominate it all ,for pure ignorance.  and to make things even worse.. Putin even reduced by 50% the space program budget too ,
    which was the only way Russia had to really influence Americans.. This is insanity . the man have no clue
    what he is doing.. he simply don't understand what influence the world.. And what is that? Technology that is fun ,that is cool ,and that everyone will like to buy or at least will help then nation image in the world. and that leads the world development.. All this waste of money of Putin is sports will be a temporary thing , of a few weeks. after the olympics ends , people will forget about it.. nobody remembers Sochi Olympics does it ?

    And the world cup will be forgotten after 1 week the events ends.. This is not the same with Internet with their favorite entertainment activities involve innovative technology one way or another.. things most people can't live without it..   If you are an artist today who wants to build a career in that ,you need American technology.. if you are music professional ,and wants to sell your music online ,you need american software technology.. see this ?
    US have a very very future looking Business , and Russia have a very backwards one.. which is the current model of Russia economy based on commodities ,Oil and Gas.. and weapons.. this is what drive Russia economy.

    SO Europe saw Russia as a backward nation and Americans as a modern nation.. so this is what allowed Americans to build an alliance with Europe ,and push away Russia from the developed nations.. and only leave Russia with the rejected underdeveloped ones for many decades. like IRAN , Cuba ,China and North korea.. China is awakening ..however.. but Russia don't look to show interest in change. and keeps relying in old ways of nation development..
    Commodities ,Tourism ,and Energy and weapons.. this is Russia plan to challenge US hegemony in the world.  Neutral
    Nobody put a gun in European countries to join NATO , they did it voluntarily ,because US was seen as a leader of the world and Russia as a weak nation that only resist the global order but don't do anything about it to counter it.
    Ending the use of dollars will not be enough to stop the American leadership in the world.. Defeating American top technology business ,including an alternative internet is the only way to end the world perception about US as the Leaders of the world with no alternative to it.. Once Russia close that gap , then it will be game over, why would
    anyone join US if they could get better and more advanced business in the Russian world and with respect for their sovereignty ?


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    Re: Russian Economy General News: #9

    Post  Hole on Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:04 pm

    Are you mentaly unable to keep your post under thousand words?

    Read my post again. How could Yandex become as big as Google when the are blocked by the EU? The same EU which stands by as Google becomes a monopoly in Europe?

    In Skolkovo are already nearly 2.000 start-ups. World Leaders in programing, 3D-printing and so on.

    Amiland can´t even bring people into space and you´re say they are world leaders? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:17 pm

    Vann7 wrote:..... All this waste of money of Putin is sports will be a temporary thing , of a few weeks. after the olympics ends , people will forget about it.. nobody remembers Sochi Olympics does it ?....

    Several million locals who are making a living off tourism there definitely remember Sochi Olympics.

    Also, 135 mission Russians whose state budget is filled from that money flow also remember it.


    Still butthurt over Sochi I see? You should be, it was epic success and money keeps coming in. Cool
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:21 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    Putin is promoting Sports nationalism , Olympics.. that is 1-2 weeks of fame  temporary event that everyone
    will forget by the end of the month .Big Stupid Waste of money. But people will use their iphones , their PCs.. their internet for many years.. non stop every day.. for unlimited time.. and the only changes to this will be to get a newer model of their favorite technology.

    In comparison to Russia.. what they already have..
    Americans power comes from their LEADERSHIP , in innovative technology industry.. NO MORE AND NO LESS.
    but this is where Russia is abysmally behind ,is simply not even with any plans at all to counter it at all..  No .

    {cut due to inappropriqte form } OK so Putin is bad and "exotic" scholars are smart? I am not saying Putin is perfect but show me please anybody, the real person who can do better job on his place?

    Please check the facts, nobody on those dudes  took a real political or business career. Yes politics is not only plain cooking recipe. there are multiple level  blackmail, interests, bribery, threats and mistrust Smile Let me remind you that Max Kaiser works for Margarita Simonyan who works for Putin. So who's smarter huh?




    The economic effect of the World Cup 2018 will be 1% of Russia's GDP

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201804251720-2psa.htm

    The total effect for the Russian economy from the World Cup will be 1% of the gross domestic product. This figure is given in the government study.

    According to economist Anton Shabanov, this is a fairly significant part, especially given that the annual GDP growth does not exceed one and a half to two percent.

    "This is primarily an investment in infrastructure, because before the start of the competition a lot was built, many jobs were attracted. The access roads were also constructed, and the infrastructure in the cities in which the championship will be held developed very strongly. This all helped the business to work on state orders. That's in total we will see the growth of our GDP, "Shabanov said on the air of the Zvezda radio station
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    Hole wrote:Are you mentaly unable to keep your post under thousand words?

    dunno dunno dunno

    Read my post again. How could Yandex become as big as Google when the are blocked by the EU? The same EU which stands by as Google becomes a monopoly in Europe?

    Yandex cannot be as big as Google since its market is smaller and funding i significantly smaller. yet still grew bigger then Bing ! orc Yahoo. Russia never can be equal in economical terms to Us , China and perhaps in couple of years India. Not in my life and not until population grows 500 mln or so.

    Russia can potentially focus on becoming an independent hi tech and play in  Japan/Germany ligue. though not under Us occupation.


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    Post  Austin on Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:54 am

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    Post  Hole on Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:00 pm

    Yandex can´t be as big as Google because it runs against barriers. The EU would never let a russian company in. Amiland the same. Running android on all platforms? No problem. But a russian OS? No

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