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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:00 am

    Think this one must be from a long time ago, March? since the Su-25s are on the apron.


    My expert opinion based on the way the wind is blowing and the prevailing choice of camo paint I would suspect that image was taken on the 19th of November 2015 give or take a few minutes... based on the information at the bottom of the page in the image... Smile


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:21 am

    Think this one must be from a long time ago, March? since the Su-25s are on the apron.

    November or early December is a recent as it gets, the Armenian Il-76 and Russian MP arrival.
    The map is relative to the question, hence me going like this: ... unshaven I was questioning it as well.

    GarryB wrote:My expert opinion based on the way the wind is blowing and the prevailing choice of camo paint I would suspect that image was taken on the 19th of November 2015 give or take a few minutes... based on the information at the bottom of the page in the image...  Smile

    I didn't judge it by the google maps date, I was also skeptical about it as a whole. Replying to other members on-topic and keeping the conversation going is far more productive.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  calm on Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:41 pm

    Recent Satellite Imagery show 9K720 Iskander short-range ballistic missile system deployment at #Latakia airbase in #Syria. #Russia

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:33 am

    Russian RoRo Alexandr Tkachenko first trip to Syria for 2017 with military trucks. Its the second trip south in 21 days. All part of the Russian 'withdrawal' we are hearing about.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  calm on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:44 pm

    "The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”... :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:51 pm

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    East Europe man.... lol1
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:41 pm

    I think it's all SJW-level BS. As if the Russian pilot "was unaware of the F-15" and was typical "sexist", as he'd respond only to women. Suspect
    Don't buy it.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:17 pm

    Is this a new video? If so it looks like some Su-25 are back.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:22 pm


    Ninjad by JohninMK yet again.... cry I fail once more...


    Looks like Su-25 is back by popular demand.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Firebird on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:58 pm

    calm wrote:"The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”...   :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.  

    It really shows the arrogance of these pricks.
    They call themselves the "coalition". WTF.

    Everyone else calls them bullies, invaders, creators of ISIS.

    The only people they're in coalition with in Syria is the terrorists, certainly NOT the Syrian govt.

    If they got shot down it'd only be a fraction of what they deserve.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Azi on Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:26 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    calm wrote:"The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”...   :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.  

    It really shows the arrogance of these pricks.
    They call themselves the "coalition". WTF.

    Everyone else calls them bullies, invaders, creators of ISIS.

    The only people they're in coalition with in Syria is the terrorists, certainly NOT the Syrian govt.

    If they got shot down it'd only be a fraction of what they deserve.

    They try to provoke Syria and Russia! Latest news was that US Air Force is bombing around in Idlib and don't inform Russian Forces. Idlib is really dangerous near to Khmeimim Air Base.

    Aim of the Obama administration is, that Russia shoot down something (fighter, bomber drone...whatever!) that belongs to USA for a new round of hysteric sanctions and propaganda. Normal US soldiers and officers are not aware of this fact and only victims of their own aggressive administration.

    What piss me really off is that USA is acting over Syria like it's Arizona, California or some other part of their country. NO! Syria is a independent and sovereign country! Only Russia has the syrian permission to throw bombs, beside SyAAF.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 pm

    Azi wrote:
    They try to provoke Syria and Russia! Latest news was that US Air Force is bombing around in Idlib and don't inform Russian Forces. Idlib is really dangerous near to Khmeimim Air Base.

    Aim of the Obama administration is, that Russia shoot down something (fighter, bomber drone...whatever!) that belongs to USA for a new round of hysteric sanctions and propaganda. Normal US soldiers and officers are not aware of this fact and only victims of their own aggressive administration.

    What piss me really off is that USA is acting over Syria like it's Arizona, California or some other part of their country. NO! Syria is a independent and sovereign country! Only Russia has the syrian permission to throw bombs, beside SyAAF.
    Yup a B-52 apparently, presumably with escorts.

    A US B-52 bomber carried out an attack on January 3 in Syria's Idlib province without notifying Russia, killing over 20 civilians, the Russian General Staff said.

    "We remember how the US aviation carried out an attack near Deir ez-Zor on [Syrian] government forces after which Daesh units launched an offensive in September last year," Chief of the Russian General Staff Valery Gerasimov said. "The latest example is a B-52 bomber's strike on January 3 without notifying Russia on Sarmada populated area in the Idlib province, which is located in the area where hostilities are halted. As a result, 20 civilians were killed," General Gerasimov said.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701101049428693-us-bomber-syria-civilians/
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:40 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is this a new video? If so it looks like some Su-25 are back.


    I think they are Yak-130

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  medo on Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:31 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Is this a new video? If so it looks like some Su-25 are back.


    I think they are Yak-130


    Difficult to say if they are Su-25 or Yak-130. But if they are indeed Yak-130, than there is a good question, if they are for Syrian AF.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:42 pm

    They are Su-25s. I stand corrected.
    Confirmation from local source that 12 Su-25s have arrived to Syria.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:09 am

    TheArmenian wrote:They are Su-25s. I stand corrected.
    Confirmation from local source that 12 Su-25s have arrived to Syria.

    12 eh? Since these things are used for some very specific tasks looks to me that somebody is fooked...
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  franco on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:14 am

    Major offenses ready to start around Aleppo. Apparently they can sortie the Su-25 about half a dozen times a day.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  calm on Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:25 am

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:They are Su-25s. I stand corrected.
    Confirmation from local source that 12 Su-25s have arrived to Syria.

    12 eh? Since these things are used for some very specific tasks looks to me that somebody is fooked...

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  calm on Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:12 pm

    Aleppo
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:24 pm

    C-More sights like the ones seen with the Chechen MP troops.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  calm on Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:04 pm

    US-led #coalition ‘acts secretively in #Syria,’ Americans often absent from hotline – Russian military

    Laughing

    https://www.rt.com/news/373338-us-pilots-russian-jets/
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:04 pm

    My highlight. Also could be just 4 Su-25.

    Russian Ministry of Defense has denied the reports made by the US media alleging that Russia has increased its military presence in Syria, according to Defense Ministry's spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov.

    Earlier, the US TV channel FoxNews aired a report saying that Russia had been allegedly stepping up its military presence in Syria. One of two US officials quoted in a Fox News report on Wednesday claimed that "we have seen new things coming in" from Russia to Syria.

    Russian Defense Ministry is already implementing measures to reduce Russian military grouping in Syria, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. "The Russian Defense Ministry implements measures to reduce the groups of Russian troops (forces) in accordance with the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces," Konashenkov said. He pointed out that the Northern Fleet carrier group including the Admiral Kuznetsov heavy carrier, as well as more than 40 aircraft from the surface ship aviation that was used to conduct strikes on international terrorist organizations, started their withrawal on January 6. "By the way, Fox news, as well as almost all media outlets in the world, reported it in their news program," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

    He pointed out that first six Su-24 bombers have been redeployed to Russia from the Hmeymim airbase in Latakia. The withdrawal of some aircraft, as well as flight and engineering staff from Syria is planned to be completed in the near future, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. Russian air group at the Hmeymim airbase now includes four Su-25 aircraft as part of a scheduled rotation, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov noted. "As part of the planned rotation of aircraft, four Su-25 attack aircraft from Russia, equipped with modern navigation and sighting systems, were really made part recently of the Russian air group at the Hmeymim airbase," Konashenkov said.

    The decision to cut Russia's military presence in Syria was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin at the recommendation of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on December 29. Russia and Turkey are guarantors of a nationwide Syrian ceasefire that came into force last week, and has been holding up in general, despite continued reports of violations. The UN Security Council passed a resolution last Saturday supporting the effort.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701121049509987-russia-syria-military-presence-us-media-claims/

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  par far on Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:02 pm

    "MOSCOW, ANKARA OFFICIALLY AGREE TO COORDINATE AIRSTRIKES AGAINST TERRORISTS IN SYRIA."


    https://southfront.org/moscow-ankara-officially-agree-to-coordinate-airstrikes-against-terrorists-in-syria/




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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  medo on Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:23 pm

    I wonder if Russia send any new Su-25SM3 in Syria. It would be excellent oportunity to test SOLT-25 targeting complex and new data link complex for night operations against terrorists.

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