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    JohninMK

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:14 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Media reported on Friday in the forthcoming visit of the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation to Turkey
    News already posted here on Friday, the day of the supposed visit. The MoD did not confirm it and nothing has been released on it so who knows if it actually took place.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  franco on Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:23 pm

    Read somewhere that it was postponed but who knows.

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    Post  Resistance on Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:47 pm

    Clearly Russia realized Russia was tricked by Turkey and the US. The fake coup. The fake apology. The incursion into Syria. Putin better have a plan before TSK reaches Damascus.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:53 pm

    eehnie wrote:Ther first Turkish casualties come fast.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=06d_1472345583

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8c3_1472358507

    Which armoured vehicles are these?

    NATO standards.

    First video is Two M60A3's hit and an AV-15 (FNSS) the second is Syrian army T72's in 2012 I think.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:24 pm

    Any truth in this? Its logical as the Su=34 takes on the role in the RuAF.

    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai Aug 26

    #Russia provided #Damascus with almost two dozens of modernised Su-24. #Syria.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  franco on Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:09 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Any truth in this? Its logical as the Su=34 takes on the role in the RuAF.

    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai Aug 26

    #Russia provided #Damascus with almost two dozens of modernised Su-24. #Syria.

    The only official announcement has been for 8 Su-24M's. If you count the 12-16 Russian VKS Su-24M's deployed in Syria then you got 2 dozen.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:39 am

    Russia MOD reports only 5 ceasefire violations in Syria today, 4 in Latakia 1 in Homs.

    https://www.facebook.com/1492252324350852/photos/a.1492313031011448.1073741828.1492252324350852/1791476484428433/?type=3&theater

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:53 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:With all this talk about Syrian jets be intercepted, not once did those F-22 pilots explain what would happen if they shot those planes down....


    ....Yeah that's right those Raptors will go extinct, getting flak jackets, jackets actually made out of flak!!!


    With all the talk about Syrian Jets being "intercepted". Not once anyone questioned
    the American story ,to be FAKE and just chest beating ,to get American people mentality
    prepared for American Airforce to shut down a Syrian plane.  

    The probability Americans will take a risk to fly not one ,but TWO F-22 in Syria,
    and risk them being shot down either by S-400s or by a happy trigger Syrian pilot or its Air defense is next to ZERO. AMericans military never take unnecessary Risk.  This is why they backed down in their attempts to create  a no fly zone in Syria.. after the chemical weapons
    incident. Even After Putin told ,was not going to fight Americans ,not even for Syria. Cool

    How Naive people you are. The story never happened.  Neocons and American military are
    extremely obsessed with their World Image in terms of Power. And risking so much (like
    an F-22 being shot down in Syria by an unintended consequences with its pilots AND plane technology captured by Syria and IRAN) Is the last thing Obama and the Pentagon will like to see.  Just look what happened to the General in charge of the American special forces arrested by IRAN.. after that shameful incident the general was FIRED.

    So which General will like to risk losing its career using not needed risk? When so many other older planes are available that can do the job. Is not like an Su-24 bomber cannot be defeated by any regular plane. How naive people are in this forum. Why would the US gov and Pentagon ,allow the possibility
    of their best plane to be shutdown by Syrian air defenses? when any old plane could do the same job?  Americans are flying F-15s in Syria last i saw.. at best they will have F-16s// but not even those ..since they still today sells them to Pakistan and many other countries. A plane failure in Syria will be bad press for the business sales of that plane in the market.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:48 am


    Russian Olympics athletes visited Khmeim airbase:


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    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:09 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian Olympics athletes visited Khmeim airbase:


    Hopefully that base is secure because these guys are coming.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:27 pm

    80 Russian soldiers arrived by helicopter to Castello today to guard the humanitarian corridor. What a waste of lives of servicemen. Their lives are going to be sacrificed for nothing doing something so dangerous for nothing in the middle of the biggest battle on the planet facing the worst scums on the planet who don't even value their own lives.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:14 pm

    Russians are copycats. US bombs Syria. Then Russia does the same. Turkey deploys ground forces. Then Russia does the same.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-troops-head-aleppo-city/

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Resistance on Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:33 pm

    This is all Russia's fault. Russia sent peace to Helfaya and Helfaya is one of the several hundred towns that reconciled so it was not guarded. That's why bad people took it without a fight. Russia go home. You are making a mess in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/770344220251000832
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:39 am


    In other news:



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:03 am


    Aerostats in Hmeim airbase



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:26 am

    Fuckwit wrote:This is all Russia's fault. Russia sent peace to Helfaya and Helfaya is one of the several hundred towns that reconciled so it was not guarded. That's why bad people took it without a fight. Russia go home. You are making a mess in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/770344220251000832

    Oh FFS....  can the mods PLEASE do something about the endless diarrhoea that pours from this troll....  I know that the mods don't want to be seen to acting againt "freedom of speech" but this idiot is making a fucking mockery of this site...

    P.S sincere apologies to all those who have wisely blocked this clown and upon whom I have re-inflicted this appalling idiocy.....
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  OminousSpudd on Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:01 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Fuckwit wrote:This is all Russia's fault. Russia sent peace to Helfaya and Helfaya is one of the several hundred towns that reconciled so it was not guarded. That's why bad people took it without a fight. Russia go home. You are making a mess in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/770344220251000832

    Oh FFS....  can the mods PLEASE do something about the endless diarrhoea that pours from this troll....  I know that the mods don't want to be seen to acting againt "freedom of speech" but this idiot is making a fucking mockery of this site...

    P.S sincere apologies to all those who have wisely blocked this clown and upon whom I have re-inflicted this appalling idiocy.....
    That comedic value though...

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Resistance on Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:26 am

    Russia MOD says no ceasefire violation in Hama today. Bullshit. If bad people nuked Moscow today, Russia MOD would say there is no ceasefire violation in Moscow.

    https://www.facebook.com/1492252324350852/photos/a.1492313031011448.1073741828.1492252324350852/1791990304377051/?type=1&theater
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  auslander on Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:02 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Fuckwit wrote:This is all Russia's fault. Russia sent peace to Helfaya and Helfaya is one of the several hundred towns that reconciled so it was not guarded. That's why bad people took it without a fight. Russia go home. You are making a mess in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/770344220251000832

    Oh FFS....  can the mods PLEASE do something about the endless diarrhoea that pours from this troll....  I know that the mods don't want to be seen to acting againt "freedom of speech" but this idiot is making a fucking mockery of this site...

    P.S sincere apologies to all those who have wisely blocked this clown and upon whom I have re-inflicted this appalling idiocy.....

    You understand that you will be severely chastised for again inflicting memory of this soporific and fetid sore on the bumm of mankind.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:18 pm

    auslander wrote:You understand that you will be severely chastised for again inflicting memory of this soporific and fetid sore on the bumm of mankind.  

    Guilty as charged, but I plead temporary insanity caused by exposure to epic-level congenital stupidity...
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  gaurav on Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:49 pm

    The official/unofficial data clearly suggests that U.S planes had not come close to su-24.
    it was like 100 kms of distance whatever.The data suggests those planes could be F-22 .That is all
    there is to it.
    There was this sort of agreement between VKS and USAF of partitioning the Syrian airspace.

    Russian and Syrian planes regularly are flying near that kurd , turkish territory and also over U.S controlled airspace.

    U.S AF is scared shit about S-400. I cannot elaborate much more than that.

    Russian Electronic warfare assets in syria are deadly to all U.S AF assets deployed in the gulf.

    Russia does not fire up its electronic warfare units unless it is in a critical situation.

    Russian ground control knew perfectly well exact location/tracking of possible F-22 jets.
    It had relayed that information in coded sequence to the pilots of Syrian jets. Even if F-22 was cycling 3 times it
    does not matter. Syrian pilots "knew" they were there.

    Russ also has huge amount of air/ground based thermal assets to track down F-22 flying from turkey.


    Russia avoids any unnecessary fire fights or casualties in such critical long term warfare.
    Russian assets are deployed for high precision air to surface attacks.

    U.S assets are deployed for air to air shooting over Syria.This alone explains the situation.


    Total around 1.22 lakhs of precision ground strikes(FROM ALMOST 30 thousand sorties in one year)
    have been carried out bu RUAF alone in the"area of DOMINANCE of USAF".
    I mean in the area domination of f-22. This alone should calm down the nerves of those people shouting aloud
    ..su-35 , s-300 , s-400 , cannot see F-22.



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  auslander on Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:17 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    auslander wrote:You understand that you will be severely chastised for again inflicting memory of this soporific and fetid sore on the bumm of mankind.  

    Guilty as charged, but I plead temporary insanity caused by exposure to epic-level congenital stupidity...

    That is why I have that syphilitic crotch sore on Cosmic Ignore. Cosmic Ignore also saves unneeded trips to the vomitorium and I don't have to wash my eyes after reading his completely asinine ramblings.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:47 pm

    gaurav wrote:........................

    Russian ground control knew perfectly well exact location/tracking of possible F-22 jets.
    ............................

    Is anyone surprised?

    If F-117 can be detected and tracked by slightly tweaked 60's era radar then tracking F-22 (or anything else) with current day systems should be fairly routine.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  eehnie on Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:03 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    gaurav wrote:........................

    Russian ground control knew perfectly well exact location/tracking of possible F-22 jets.
    ............................

    Is anyone surprised?

    If F-117 can be detected and tracked by slightly tweaked 60's era radar then tracking F-22 (or anything else) with current day systems should be fairly routine.

    I would not. I have been always very skeptic with the real value of stealth technologies.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    gaurav wrote:........................

    Russian ground control knew perfectly well exact location/tracking of possible F-22 jets.
    ............................

    Is anyone surprised?

    If F-117 can be detected and tracked by slightly tweaked 60's era radar then tracking F-22 (or anything else) with current day systems should be fairly routine.

    But that's besides the point. The whole discussion was a whole red herring, because the VKS has OTH radar assets in Armenia. It's crazy how people will entertain discussion of alleged "Russian technological inferiority" considering all the information on this board. The discussion was very reminiscent of claims of Russia being incapable of creating a hypersonic orbital space plane drone, when in fact the Soviets had Buran back in the 1980's.

    Some 6-7 years ago the agreement with the VKS maintaining a Soviet legacy OTH radar to monitor the Middle East in Azerbaijan was dissolved, so Russia built a brand new OTH radar in Armenia, with the newer deployed OTH radars having max detection range of 6,600 km's. Kret is already developing photonic ROFAR radars for the 2020's that will rival the power and resolution of 20-story OTH radar buildings, but the total size of the 4 panel/sided radar array will be approximately that of a Volkswagen Beetle, and will be towed by trucks.

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