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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:42 pm

    The meeting between Putin and khamenei was very warm and friendly , and the main subject was also Syrian civil war...

    It seems that both of them were very happy
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    TEHRAN, Nov. 23 (MNA) – Russian President Vladimir Putin has told Leader of the Islamic Republic no power would impose its will on Syrian people and decide on their behalf on Syrian future political structure.
    Leader’s official website report quoted Mr. Putin’s remarks in his meeting with Ayatollah Khamenei earlier on Monday, where Mr. Putin expressed gratitude for meeting with the Leader; “bilateral relations between Iran and Russia in diverse fields as aerospace and technologies has taken a rapid turn, and we are happy that Russia along with Islamic Republic of Iran, has played an active role in resolving regional and international crises,” he told the Leader.

    Putin also praised the Islamic Republic as an independent and strong country with bright futures on the horizons; “Russia considers Iran as a reliable ally in the region and the world at large; we are committed to a general avoidance of betraying our partners and stabbing our friends coming out of the dark, and are committed to negotiation and diplomacy in solving any differences,” Mr. Putin said figuratively.

    Putin described Iranian and Russian positions on Syria very close; “we both emphasize that crisis in Syria will be solved only if all Syrian groups of all ethnicities participate in elections and that world powers recognize this political means to bring stability to the country; we strongly believe that no country is in a positon to decide on behalf of Syrians on their future government,” he emphasized.

    Putin emphasized upon the continuing nature of air strikes against terrorist strongholds in Syria and believed Tehran-Moscow sharing beliefs was necessary for a diplomatic solution; “countries with a claim to democracy could not oppose to elections in Syria,” he concluded.


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    Leader urges vigilance to thwart US plot for West Asia




    Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei (R) receives Russian President Vladimir Putin in Tehran on November 23, 2015. ©️khamenei.ir
    Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says the long-term US plot for Western Asia is against the interests of all countries, particularly Iran and Russia, urging vigilance and close interaction to thwart the scheme.

    In a meeting with visiting Russian President Vladimir Putin in Tehran on Monday, Ayatollah Khamenei said the US has a long-term plot to take control of the whole of West Asia by dominating Syria and then expanding its dominion over the entire region, saying, “This plot is a threat to all nations and countries, particularly Russia and Iran.”

    The Leader hailed Russia’s influential role in regional issues, particularly in the Syrian conflict, and said Moscow’s decisions and measures in dealing with developments in Damascus enhanced the regional and international standing of Russia and President Putin in particular.

    “The Americans have always been trying to place their rivals in a position of passivity but you have foiled such a policy,” Ayatollah Khamenei said.

    The US and its followers are seeking to achieve through political means and negotiations the objectives that they have failed to obtain via military approaches, the Leader said, adding vigilance and a proactive stance are necessary to prevent this goal from being realized.

    Ayatollah Khamenei said Washington’s insistence on the ouster of Syria’s legitimate and democratically-elected President Bashar al-Assad is among the weaknesses of the US policies.

    He said the Syrian president, in a national election, succeeded in winning the majority of votes of the Syrian people with “different political, religious and ethnic” viewpoints and emphasized that the US has no right to ignore the Syrians’ choice.

    The Leader said every solution on the Syrian crisis should be endorsed by the country’s nation and officials.


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    Russia’s Putin donates a special gift to Ayatollah Khamenei




    Visiting Russian president Vladimir Putin donated a special gift to Iran’s Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei during a meeting held in Tehran on Monday, Iranian local media reported.

    Putin, who is in Tehran to attend the summit meeting of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF), gave one of the world’s oldest Quran manuscripts to Ayatollah Khamenei, another sign showing the strengthening relations between the two countries.

    Russian President met with Iran’s Supreme Leader as part of his visit to Tehran to attend the third meeting of fuel-exporting countries.



    He is also set to meet Iranian counterpart Hassan Rouhani.

    Vladimir Putin became the first Russian leader to visit Iran since World War II when he held talks with Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in 2007.

    The third meeting of fuel-exporting countries was opened in Tehran on November 23 by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, and prior to the meeting of the heads of the member countries, their ministers of oil and energy will meet beginning November 20.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  mack8 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maybe Russian. maybe Syrian... confused


    Looks like a P, Syria does not have that model afaik.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:33 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:I'm sceptical as well, but the journalist usually has good info from Syria so I wouldn't discount it completely....even if true, I doubt we'll get an official confirmation...we'll see


    BKP wrote:On a semi-related note, this guy (below) believes that Russian SF will be deployed against ISIS. Intriguing, but also not necessarily true.

    Much more likely

    ...

    Another interesting development....Russian IL-76 (RA-76634) under Sy-AF insignia



    Back in September

    Arrow http://russianplanes.net/id172709

    And that's the most unimportant aspect of that aircraft!
    Read here:
    https://twitter.com/AlRFORCEFREAK/status/563004594994053122
    https://twitter.com/AlRFORCEFREAK/status/563002628058382336

    It has been converted to carry FAB bombs Very Happy
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Militarov on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:35 pm

    mack8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maybe Russian. maybe Syrian... confused


    Looks like a P, Syria does not have that model afaik.

    Yep. They do not, those are Russians.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  zg18 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:42 pm

    WOW, what the.... whole battalion of T-90As in Aleppo




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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  whir on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:07 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:After Metrojet 321 attack, I'd think that the Public would be out for blood.
    Looking at how Russian politicians have dealt with the incident from the begging one would think that they have other priorities than to satisfy the thirst for blood à la française.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  zg18 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:08 pm

    T-90A on the road to Aleppo

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:11 pm

    zg18 wrote:WOW, what the.... whole battalion of T-90As in Aleppo





    Wallahi bilahi tallahi, this is soo unexpected.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:13 pm


    It looks like Turkmenistan are protesting Russia the use of the caspian sea airspace
    to bomb in Syria.. This have to come from Washington DC the orders.. to block Russia
    from flying over their side of the caspian sea. No


    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151123/1030606632/putin-caspian-sea-isil-airstrikes.html

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:17 pm

    zg18 wrote:WOW, what the.... whole battalion of T-90As in Aleppo




    Ded Moroz has been generous and premature... lol1
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:20 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    It looks like Turkmenistan are  protesting Russia the use of the caspian sea airspace
    to bomb in Syria.. This have to come from Washington DC the orders.. to block Russia
    from flying over their side of the caspian sea.  No


    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151123/1030606632/putin-caspian-sea-isil-airstrikes.html


    It's international airspace and they don't overfly anybody's territory until they reach Iran.
    They can protest all they like but their plea has no legal basis according to international law.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:20 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    It looks like Turkmenistan are  protesting Russia the use of the caspian sea airspace
    to bomb in Syria.. This have to come from Washington DC the orders.. to block Russia
    from flying over their side of the caspian sea.  No

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151123/1030606632/putin-caspian-sea-isil-airstrikes.html


    They can hump themselves, Russia can pull so many pins in that craphole I am honestly impressed that they even managed to utter a sentence over this...

    Besides, isn't central Caspian free for all who have coastline there?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:22 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    It looks like Turkmenistan are  protesting Russia the use of the caspian sea airspace
    to bomb in Syria.. This have to come from Washington DC the orders.. to block Russia
    from flying over their side of the caspian sea.  No

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151123/1030606632/putin-caspian-sea-isil-airstrikes.html


    They can hump themselves, Russia can pull so many pins in that craphole I am honestly impressed that they even managed to utter a sentence over this...

    Besides, isn't central Caspian free for all who have coastline there?

    It's sovereign sea and air up to 12nm from coastlines. The rest is international airspace.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:24 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    zg18 wrote:WOW, what the.... whole battalion of T-90As in Aleppo





    Wallahi bilahi tallahi, this is soo unexpected.

    Actually, given the intensity of Syrian Express these last couple of months it is quite expected. We had rumors recently about fresh SAA units being armed and trained in the background. Looks like it's showtime. thumbsup
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Neutrality on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:45 pm

    So the battle for Aleppo is pretty close then. Has the T90 ever been used in a conflict before? I think this is the first time.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  iraqidabab on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:45 pm

    Those T-90'S are fitted with ARENA it looks like?

    Good to test it with all those ATGW's around.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Militarov on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:47 pm

    Neutrality wrote:So the battle for Aleppo is pretty close then. Has the T90 ever been used in a conflict before? I think this is the first time.

    Unconfirmed use in Second Chechen war.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  BKP on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:49 pm

    According  to RI, the Jerusalem Post, citing Kuwaiti media, is getting  into the act now. If you check the comments, you'll notice that Patrick Armstrong doesn't believe it.

    Report: Russia Begins Ground Operations in Syria
    The Jerusalem Post, citing a Kuwaiti newspaper, reports that “Russian forces have already taken over multiple strategic positions and have forced numerous rebel battalions to retreat”
    Rudy Panko, 11/23/15

    http://russia-insider.com/en/report-russian-ground-forces-begin-operations-syria/ri11384

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  iraqidabab on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:53 pm

    I wouldn't doubt it, if those MI-24's flying in pairs in Syria are Russian then they're already taking major risks, way more then americans.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Militarov on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:57 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:Those T-90'S are fitted with ARENA it looks like?

    Good to test it with all those ATGW's around.

    I dont see Arena on that shot tbh.



    And it would be a suprise if it was there, coz it never entered production.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  max steel on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:00 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:Those T-90'S are fitted with ARENA it looks like?

    Good to test it with all those ATGW's around.


    Yup don't forget Al-Qaeda and FSA posses abut 500 US TOWs in Syria . Lets see how it'll turn out .
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  zg18 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:02 pm

    Neutrality wrote:So the battle for Aleppo is pretty close then. Has the T90 ever been used in a conflict before? I think this is the first time.

    It was used briefly and VERY successfully against Ukrainian T-80s and T-64s near Lugansk last summer.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:02 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    It looks like Turkmenistan are  protesting Russia the use of the caspian sea airspace
    to bomb in Syria.. This have to come from Washington DC the orders.. to block Russia
    from flying over their side of the caspian sea.  No

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151123/1030606632/putin-caspian-sea-isil-airstrikes.html


    They can hump themselves, Russia can pull so many pins in that craphole I am honestly impressed that they even managed to utter a sentence over this...

    Well, Russia's doctrine always provides for the culprits to have a face-saving way out of a situation, and this case is only one of the many applications of this doctrine during the Syrian phase of the current war.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Militarov on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:04 pm

    zg18 wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:So the battle for Aleppo is pretty close then. Has the T90 ever been used in a conflict before? I think this is the first time.

    It was used briefly and VERY successfully against Ukrainian T-80s and T-64s near Lugansk last summer.

    Those reportedly were T72B3 from what i recall.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:07 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    I would say it has a bigger psychological effect on US, Turkey and Israel when they keep seeing their investment vaporizing.


    Thats exactly correct. and the main reason of the big nuclear capable bombers deployed in Syria.
    Using many dozens of nuclear capable state of the art cruise missiles.. to tell Turkey ,Israel,Saudi ARabia ,US And Qatar and UK,that Russia will  be ready to use nuclear weapons is that is what it takes to stop their war against syria and their supporting to terrorist

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