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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:34 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The question you people should ask is why is the entire warhead missing while there is no crater. Those cruise missiles even when subsonic have quite significant speed and those that did not ignite would still fall down with some smaller crater and the warhead disappeared where? It has no system to eject warhead and leaven engine and fuselage alone so where is the warhead?

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:03 pm

    So that would confirm my point that Iranians are neither trust worthy and are cucks. Cause I recall seeing videos of Iranians waving US flag and Iranian flag over recent agreements even though US sanctioned you guys for 30 years and caused more damage than lack of S-300 sale.....

    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.

    Edit: i see you removed your post about it.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  franco on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:So that would confirm my point that Iranians are neither trust worthy and are cucks. Cause I recall seeing videos of Iranians waving US flag and Iranian flag over recent agreements even though US sanctioned you guys for 30 years and caused more damage than lack of S-300 sale.....

    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.

    Edit: i see you removed your post about it.


    I assume cucks is asexual and denotes political correctness for the male and female sex organs. tongue


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:15 pm

    ult wrote:Nice "allies" we have here... Rolling Eyes


    There is always some level of disagreement  between the allies and even between two fellow countrymans

    Not a major problem



    KoTeMoRe wrote: it's better for Russia these got to Iran, that will help Iran have an better self defense inventory, you know after the S300 fiasco. Plus as Acheron said, you need a whole lot of work to have both a launch vehicle and even more to make it ground based.

    It's part of this war, and i also find it a bit special that we see Iran put their people on the line, but somehow we disrespect their sacrifice by playing petty games. I'm sure there's a gag order in Iran, and that they keep it up at their best capacity.



    My Russian comrades must know the s-300 issue and a many years of delay on it's  sale before canceling it  and the decades of delay and cost over runs to finish the bushehr nuclear plant  and the  Russian vote on  sanction resolution against Iran ,  became a primary source of distrust from Iranian side , also all people here see it as a back stabbing act by Russians (read it Putin) against Iran when we were in harsh condition (ie back breaking sanctions)


    not to mentioned canceling the joint stealth fighter shafagh , after 5 years of hard work

    I'm sorry but there's not much love here for Russia anymore
    The thing is we have a common enemy and that's all i can say .



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:29 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:So that would confirm my point that Iranians are neither trust worthy and are cucks. Cause I recall seeing videos of Iranians waving US flag and Iranian flag over recent agreements even though US sanctioned you guys for 30 years and caused more damage than lack of S-300 sale.....

    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.

    .

    ult wrote:Nice "allies" we have here... Rolling Eyes


    There is always some level of disagreement  between the allies and even between two fellow countrymans

    Not a major problem



    KoTeMoRe wrote: it's better for Russia these got to Iran, that will help Iran have an better self defense inventory, you know after the S300 fiasco. Plus as Acheron said, you need a whole lot of work to have both a launch vehicle and even more to make it ground based.

    It's part of this war, and i also find it a bit special that we see Iran put their people on the line, but somehow we disrespect their sacrifice by playing petty games. I'm sure there's a gag order in Iran, and that they keep it up at their best capacity.

    My Russian comrades must know the s-300 issue and a many years of delay on it's  sale before canceling it  and the decades of delay and cost over runs to finish the bushehr nuclear plant  and the  Russian vote on  sanction resolution against Iran ,  became a primary source of distrust from Iranian side , also all people here see it as a back stabbing act by Russians (read it Putin) against Iran when we were in harsh condition (ie back breaking sanctions)

    not to mentioned canceling the joint stealth fighter shafagh , after 5 years of hard work

    I'm sorry but there's not much love here for Russia anymore
    The thing is we have a common enemy and that's all i can say .

    anyway move on

    Vityaz/Shahafgh and all the rest were done under duress, don't underestimate the real problem from Russian side, they have to play a tight game between East and West. On another side Russia was also the reason Iran didn't got it worse. For many things, Russian foreign policy has to be as slick as possible.

    There's no hard feelings I belive, since Russia NEVER dropped Iran, although Iran currently has not the kind of authority Russian affectionate. It's still a religious rule, although with a completely different mindset than say KSA.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:33 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:My Russian comrades must know the s-300 issue and a many years of delay on it's  sale before canceling it  and the decades of delay and cost over runs to finish the bushehr nuclear plant  and the  Russian vote on  sanction resolution against Iran ,  became a primary source of distrust from Iranian side , also all people here see it as a back stabbing act by Russians (read it Putin) against Iran when we were in harsh condition (ie back breaking sanctions)


    not to mentioned canceling the joint stealth fighter shafagh , after 5 years of hard work

    I'm sorry but there's not much love here for Russia anymore
    The thing is we have a common enemy and that's all i can say.

    The Russian ruling elite was too focused on developing and maintaining ties with the West.
    Maybe they will get better now that they are sanctioned and relations with the Transatlantics are ruined, though as long as Europhile Putin remains in-charge there won't be enough change.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:35 pm

    sepheronx wrote:So that would confirm my point that Iranians are neither trust worthy and are cucks. Cause I recall seeing videos of Iranians waving US flag and Iranian flag over recent agreements even though US sanctioned you guys for 30 years and caused more damage than lack of S-300 sale.....

    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.

    .

    There's not much love here for USA either, there was just some happy and rich  Iranian waving US flag

    Iranian are mostly hating the US/Israel imperial policies by all means .


    Yes US sanctioned us  for 30 years but it was mostly for military sale and we do NOT expect any friendly actions from them because they are our sworn enemies
    , but after Russia and china (our friends) final vote of security council , all hell broke lose

    Economical , central bank , insurance , bank accounts , oil money , transportation ,shipping and all of this sanctions became real after our brothers voted against us

    and god knows it was tough situation


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:39 pm

    Acheron wrote:
    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Stealth kh-101


    So Russia gave her latest stealth technology to Iran
    Thanks Russia
    russia
    I hope we will see the  Iranian version soon

    1) If a missile "pancakes", that't the shape you would expect it to have.
    2) I am sure that there is an agreement with Iran that all crashed objects are to be given back -> Iranian specialists are free to photograph it and examine, but it will most likely make its way back to Russia.
    3) Iranian specialists should prioritise work on aerial delivery vehicles for cruise missiles like Kh-55 and Kh-101, rather than the missiles themselves -> the state of the airforce is a major glaring deficiency (amongst others) of Iranian military.

    This is rear half of the missile, where is the rest of it? If it had crashed there would either be wreckage of warhead or Shackleton sized crater over there. And isn't warhead supposed to detach from the carrier at some point?


    Also, good to see you Acheron, where have you been for the past year? thumbsup
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  Regular on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:40 pm

    Russia and allies doesn't mix.
    Russian foreign policy is self-serving. No more Soviet style friendships.
    If You speak Russian You will notice that Russian foreign policy calls other countries PARTNERS. Yes, not allies, enemies, but PARTNERS. Even US. I think Russian foreign policy have matured (domestic one is still shit tho).
    Russia won't take bullet for You, sooner You guys understand that the better. I think Russia had hard lesson with Ukraine about it.

    It's better Iran than US boys in Syria.
    Plus it will hard for Iran to actually copy it as it requires not only know how, but also logistic and technical background. If You buy new BMW it doesn't mean You can copy it and produce it by Your own.
    Not saying that Iranians are bad, but even Chinese are having troubles when it comes to cruise missiles. Russia is no 1 in the world when it comes to this.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  marat on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:59 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.


    Because we were under sanction , because we were bankrupted badly

    we were in the situation much like soviet union in 1991, even worst

    We are still under sanction and nothing had changed here.

    You do not see any Iranian responsability for that?


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:06 pm

    I trust no country and no population that faced genocide, coup de etats and hostility from US who are not hating them with passion or are going the rute of becoming a right out bitch on a leash like poland, germany, france, japan and soon serbia is driving in this direction. The propaganda is so strong that genocide of japanese and germans by americans is something that is tossed under the rug in japan is undeniable of nuclear genocide but in germany so many "german MSM" call all that genocide against german civilian cities like dresden as "some" casualties. The allies have only killed 25.000 civilians in dresden according to "die Welt" while the 480.000 civilian deaths in that single city by US and british bombers are always quoted in our US and Jewish lobby controlled MSM quote everything above 25.000 civilian deahs comes all from right wing NPD parties and burries with disinformation and right out lies the policy of the empire scum nations which ordered which are still well known to exterminate germans as many as possible which Churchill choose his words.

    They are our death enemy always were always will be, that will never change and the sooner people understand that the better.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:09 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.


    Because we were under sanction , because we were bankrupt badly

    we were in the situation much like soviet union in 1991, even worst

    We are still under sanction and nothing had changed here.



    marat wrote:
    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Go figure. Screw Iran. Like the Iraqi guy said, they barely helping Syria for being allied to them.


    Because we were under sanction , because we were bankrupted badly

    we were in the situation much like soviet union in 1991, even worst

    We are still under sanction and nothing had changed here.

    You do not see any Iranian responsability for that?


    We saved Asad and Syria  for 4 years   Before  start of the  Russian air strike

    Yes , 4  fucking years without any  help when we were bankrupt


    By the way ,We are all know that General soleimani single handedly saved baghdad from falling , when ISIS were 60 km from Baghdad
    When the shameless Iraqi generals were running for their lives , dressing like woman


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:32 pm

    Werewolf wrote:I trust no country and no population that faced genocide, coup de etats and hostility from US who are not hating them with passion or are going the rute of becoming a right out bitch on a leash like poland, germany, france, japan and soon serbia is driving in this direction. The propaganda is so strong that genocide of japanese and germans by americans is something that is tossed under the rug in japan is undeniable of nuclear genocide but in germany so many "german MSM" call all that genocide against german civilian cities like dresden as "some" casualties. The allies have only killed 25.000 civilians in dresden according to "die Welt" while the 480.000 civilian deaths in that single city by US and british bombers are always quoted in our  US and Jewish lobby controlled MSM quote everything above 25.000 civilian deahs comes all from right wing NPD parties and burries with disinformation and right out lies the policy of the empire scum nations which ordered which are still well known to exterminate germans as many as possible which Churchill choose his words.

    They are our death enemy always were always will be, that will never change and the sooner people understand that the better.


    Iranian are mostly hating the US/Israel imperial policies by all means .

    And they are resisting it for 40 years  

    We do NOT expect any friendly action from them because they are our sworn enemies

    Let's not mix things up


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:34 pm

    Any chance we might get back on topic?

    Also ShahryarHedayatiSHBA, if you need some radiation-absorbent material just give our guys a call, we have plenty of F-117 leftovers. I even saw a local guy selling some on e-bay a while ago...


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    Post  ult on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:41 pm

    Back on topic? Easy.

    Adviser mode. Smile


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:41 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Also ShahryarHedayatiSHBA, if you need some radiation-absorbent material just give our guys a call, we have plenty of F-177 leftovers. I saw a local guy selling some on e-bay a while ago...
    LOL! lol1

    PapaDragon wrote:Any chance we might get back on topic?



    OK ,Comrade

    I wish all the best to Russians and May God bless Russia russia

    move on! thumbsup


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:43 pm

    ult wrote:Back on topic? Easy.

    Adviser mode. Smile


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:53 pm


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    Playtime Over: France Confirms Russian Forces Are Pummeling ISIL in Syria

    Russia’s stance on Syria changed after it was directly attacked by ISIL, according to France’s Defense Minister.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151122/1030546006/russia-syria-airstrikes-intensity.html

    According to French Defense Minister Jean Yves Le Drian, Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft have been launching significant strikes against the Islamic State positions in Syria.

    "Russia’s stance on Syria has changed… It was dealt a serious blow by the Islamic State… Now Russia launches significant strikes against ISIL positions," Le Drian told Europe1 radio station.

    On September 30, Russian military aircraft began executing precision strikes against ISIL forces in Syria at the behest of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Since the beginning of the airborne campaign Russian aircraft have carried out over 2,000 sorties, destroying about 3,000 ISIL targets and eliminating hundreds of militants.

    The warships of Russian Caspian Flotilla also launched a series of cruise missile strikes against the ISIL assets in Syria.

    On Tuesday Russian Aerospace Forces intensified their campaign in Syria, launching massive airstrikes against ISIL forces.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:12 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Good interview with Assad.


    He certainly says a lot of the right things, in particular his caution in attributing the war to Sunni's as a whole but instead this extremist offshoot that has plagued the world for many years now. A smart comment also in how he describes 'Opposition'.

    What's this to do with Russian aid? Shouldn't it be in the other Syria thread?


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    Brilliant, thanks for moving Smile

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  ult on Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:26 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA left so many deleted messages. Maybe some of the moderators can clean them up?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:35 pm

    ult wrote:Back on topic? Easy.

    Adviser mode. Smile


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