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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:19 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Offtopic, this also does not bode well for gang in Kiev...

    You mean the rebels in Donbass.

    They are stocked full and ready to tear sh*t up, if ukrops do something stupid (99% chance of that) they will be going back to Kiev in small plastic bags.  

    Are they? Because I cant find anything that suggest Russia is actually helping donbass besides some relief aid.  Outside of that, Kiev is getting free reign to murder people in the east.

    Nobody found anything that proves "North wind" and yet it happened.

    I think that everyone in Moscow knows that for Russian public Donbass rebels>Assad.

    Hell, compared to them Assad and entire Syria might as well not even exist.
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:20 pm

    I am not saying that they are not capable, but I am saying that Russias support has dwindled by the looks of it and I have not seen any updates of modernized equipment for Donbass.

    I am just afraid that Putin may have given into Ukraine and its retardation.  I am looking at it gloomly, I know, but current events does not give me hope, since Russia is willing to help break international laws for a country it condemned it doing so months ago, and said same country sanctioned, condemned and helped grow forces along its borders.  That isnt a friendly or allied country in my book.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:23 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I am not saying that they are not capable, but I am saying that Russias support has dwindled by the looks of it and I have not seen any updates of modernized equipment for Donbass.

    I am just afraid that Putin may have given into Ukraine and its retardation.

    Did you really expect Putin to film the weapons he is sending to Donbass and post it on youtube?

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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:25 pm

    No, of course not.  I expected to see photos from Donbass soldiers themselves of their toys as we have seen plenty of times before in the past.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:25 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I am not saying that they are not capable, but I am saying that Russias support has dwindled by the looks of it and I have not seen any updates of modernized equipment for Donbass.

    I am just afraid that Putin may have given into Ukraine and its retardation.

    Well, you are wrong. The so called rebels have been reformed into full blown army. They have contracted army, and they receive last gen Russian personal equipment. Like 6B23 body armor and 6B7 helmets. Their artillery battalions are at full strength, unlike ukrainians. So are tank brigades and so on.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:31 pm

    Hey mods, is it possible to move the Ukraine Civil War related posts, in to the Ukraine Civil War Thread?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:32 pm

    sepheronx wrote:No, of course not.  I expected to see photos from Donbass soldiers themselves of their toys as we have seen plenty of times before in the past.

    They can't brag about their fancy new totally-not-from-Russia toys when they are in the middle of a "cease-fire". Mind the PR my friend!!! Wink


    EDIT: magnum is right, we are waaaayy off-topic here.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:34 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:No, of course not.  I expected to see photos from Donbass soldiers themselves of their toys as we have seen plenty of times before in the past.

    They can't brag about their fancy new totally-not-from-Russia toys when they are in the middle of a "cease-fire". Mind the PR my friend!!! Wink    

    But I clearly expect them to flash the Tor's in early January...just because.
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:37 pm

    Well, I am sticking by my statements that:
    1)France is not to be trusted and
    2)Putin cannot use the term "respecting international law" without looking like a hypocrit for helping France break it.  Those terrorists that attacked France were the fault of France and that still does not justify their place in Syria. Assad invited Russia and I fell it looks like Russia is going to over extend its rights on that invitation.  And if France does do what most western countries tend to do, and go against their own words and agreements and attacks Assad, then Russia may lose its rights in Syria and the bases as it wont be a trusted country anymore.
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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:54 pm

    Tu-95MS and Tu-160 strategic bombers used in Syria strikes


    Russian strategic bombers, Tu-95MS and Tu-160, took part in the Syria operation. According to the account of the operation given to the president by the military (see the video above at 5:10), the operation so far involved 5 Tu-160 bombers and 6 Tu-95MS (based in Engels), as well as 14 Tu-22M3 (based in Mozdok). The bombers (probably only Tu-160 and Tu-95) are said to have launched 34 long-range cruise missiles.

    I may be wrong, but it well may be the very first use of Tu-95MS and Tu-160 in combat. Tu-22M3 bombers have been used before - in Afghanistan and in Georgia in 2008 (I'm not sure about Chechnya).

    The whole thing is well worth watching. At some point (12:30) the president instructs the commander of the Moskva cruiser, deployed in the Mediterranean, to establish contact with the French aircraft carrier group and to "work with them as allies".

    But what a weird setting, this war room! What's up with all these neat rows of officers in color-matched uniforms looking at their computers? Flowers add a nice touch too.
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    Post  Monarchist on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:55 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Well, I am sticking by my statements that:
    1)France is not to be trusted and
    2)Putin cannot use the term "respecting international law" without looking like a hypocrit for helping France break it.  Those terrorists that attacked France were the fault of France and that still does not justify their place in Syria. Assad invited Russia and I fell it looks like Russia is going to over extend its rights on that invitation.  And if France does do what most western countries tend to do, and go against their own words and agreements and attacks Assad, then Russia may lose its rights in Syria and the bases as it wont be a trusted country anymore.
    What have I posted one million times.
    Pleasing the "partners" in the west is the most important thing in russian foreign policy. Their children live there, the money is there etc.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:03 pm

    Tu-160 and Tu-95MS launched 34 air-based cruise missiles on terrorist objects located in ‪Aleppo‬ and ‪‎Idlib‬.

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    12 Tu-22M3 long-range bombers carried out strikes at the ‪ISIS‬ terrorist facilities in ‎Raqqah‬ and Deir-ez-Zor provinces.

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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:20 pm






    probably a Kalibr. so its true russian cruise missile failed

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    The Aviationist reports K-555s out of Tu-160 & Tu-95



    the Kh-555, around for a decade+ now, is a conventional Kh-55, rumored to have guidance components from the Kh-101.

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    10 satellites involved : http://tass.ru/en/science/837273






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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:20 pm

    Somewhere in Russia.

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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:22 pm

    max steel wrote:
    probably a Kalibr. so its true russian cruise missile failed

    It's not Kalibr. And looking at how those morons are inhaling the highly toxic fuel, the engine stage alone did enough damage. Laughing
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:25 pm

    ult wrote:Somewhere in Russia.

    ...................

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    ISIS volunteered for the job of a gunea-pig for disposal of Soviet unguided bombs, good lads...thumbsup
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:27 pm

    Would be impressive if 1 out of 60 cruise missiles launched failed.

    Can anyone actually identify it?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:28 pm

    ult wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    probably a Kalibr. so its true russian cruise missile failed

    It's not Kalibr. And looking at how those morons are inhaling the highly toxic fuel, the engine stage alone did enough damage. Laughing

    If it did fail then they should be more worried about a massive unexplored warhead, but of course we've heard claims of failed cruise missiles before, and I wont hold my breath just yet before believing them.
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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:30 pm

    ult wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    probably a Kalibr. so its true russian cruise missile failed

    It's not Kalibr. And looking at how those morons are inhaling the highly toxic fuel, the engine stage alone did enough damage. Laughing



    Kh-55 family?


    Mag proof is in front of you .
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:31 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    If it did fail then they should be more worried about a massive unexplored warhead, but of course we've heard claims of failed cruise missiles before, and I wont hold my breath just yet before believing them.

    There would be no warhead left. It is either hit the target or self-destructed.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:33 pm

    max steel wrote:Mag proof is in front of you .

    The first video is Kh-55. The one that is being towed is Kh-101. But nothing says that it didn't work as intended.


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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:34 pm

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    Post  auslander on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:34 pm

    It is possible we are witnessing a tectonic change in world geopolitics and military operations. If you had told me 5 days ago that our Mockba Battle Group would be ordered to cooperate with a NATO battle group by our CiC I would have questioned your sanity.

    We had missiles launched from a tiny river fleet in the landlocked Caspian Sea that flew right up IGIL's ass. We have Russian strategic bombers pasting IGIL et al in their holes. We have French assisting RuAF in attacking IGIL and other vermin. We have SAA attacking everywhere with lots of assistance from Iran, Hezzbulah and others. We have our boys flying from Lataka day and night pounding the shit out of IGIL et al. We have our home fleet, Mockba and his suite, personally and publicly ordered by the CiC to cooperate with the French Mediterranean Battle Fleet in the fight against IGIL. It's going to be an interesting few days. I would aver that the candles will be burning late in DC and Langley.

    Also, our CiC has offered a $50,000,000 reward, I don't know if it's 'dead or alive', for those who slaughtered our civilians in the downed aircraft. I am looking forward to the results from that offer with avid attention.

    As for Novorossiya, fear not. 'Step in to my parlor.' said the spider to the fly. 'Nough said, and take that discussion to the orc thread.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:36 pm

    One of the missiles. Montage.

    https://vid.me/sFJv
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:39 pm

    That is a Kh-55 missile.

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