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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:51 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    max steel wrote:They do. Do you think Putin will come alone in such events or another g-20 leader. All carry their security team chief staffs or whoever is necessary like G-20 is basically for Finance Ministers of respective 20 countries. In case of nuclear nation I'm sure they carry their nuclear hand of death every time they go abroad.

    Yeah, well how do you explain how the guy who was eavesdropping was urged to leave by security detail? Obviously he had no reason for being there, yet he was 'allowed in' by someone, and what politician brings around a fanboy that could cause a international incident? Rolling Eyes Espionage is espionage, and I don't think the 'fan boy' argument will hold up in court against serious espionage charges. Wink

    BTW, stop derailing the thread with irrelevant discussion of secret admirers, roadies, toadies, and fanboys.

    You started it first by posting the futile video Wink. Peace
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:56 am

    Vann7 wrote:..................................

    But there is no reason for an Su-34 to fly low.. since it can hit targets from high altitude with
    precision. For target adquicition they use drones and satellite that can look clearly any movement of terrorist or trucks. In fact the camera used looks like it was zooming ,shows the plane was far.

    There is every reason for Su-34 to fly low, chief among them the fact that they are in low threat environment (MANPADS talk seems to be just media BS to fluff morale of the cockroaches) and pilot may feel like flying low so he flies low. I would too...
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:05 am

    Egyptian Authorities Detain Two Airport Workers Over Russian A321 Bombing
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:14 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it's official, it's a terror attack, but the real question remains? How did UK intelligence services know it was a terror attack before the investigation was finished? Could it be that MI6 exposed themselves as secret handlers/case officers of ISIS?

    Russian plane crash in Sinai a terrorist attack - Russian Security Service

    There is no question that lonely terrorist cannot do such operation without external help
    and money. Everyone and their dog knows who are financing and arming ISIS in Syria so the
    list of the nations who are behind this is.. in order of probability ..

    1)US
    2)Israel
    3)SAudi Arabia
    4)Turkey
    5)Qatar
    6)Ukraine
    7)UK
    8)Lybia
    9)Jordan
    10)France

    This are the nations cooperating with ISIS in Syria and IRAQ.
    If i were to guess based on how the CIA operates.in previous terror attacks. they don't like to use their own hands for murdering civilians. Israel in other hand doesn't care for hiding. Then the most probable thing was the CIA /Mossad/Mi6 and Saudi Arabia were the master mind of the attack.. and the bomb was provided to an Ukrainian intelligence services,and this ones bribed egyptian airport workers to place the bomb in the plane inside a Bag.
    No idea how it was done.. but it will be unthinkable that any of those countries will do a
    terrorist attack on Russian civilian plane without consulting with US first. After All the Pentagon
    CHief warned of terrorist attack on Russian civilians and planes shot down just a week earlier.

    This is the way the mafia operates they like to announce their plans of their next
    to hit on the list even before they commit the crime.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:26 am


    Paris Changes Everything: Putin's 'Strategic Blunder' May Be A Boon For Investors

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:50 am

    I am guessing the attackers could have easily used the criminal underworld "black market logistics chain" of drug smugglers to get the bomb on board the A321...

    sad to say, they probably only had to pay a few thousand dollars... about market rate for getting a bag full of drugs in a cargo hold.

    any "mafia types" could trivially setup such a thing especially from a third world airport where staff are paid a few hundred dollars a month only.

    This was obviously a "warning shot" to Russia.

    RIP to the victims.
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:54 am

    Looks at this Scum piece of shit..
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    The president of Bulgaria
    now comparing Russia with ISIS..  lol1

    he is obviously on the payroll of the western neomafia..

    http://uatoday.tv/politics/kremlin-plots-destruction-of-european-unity-bulgarian-president-plevneliev-535455.html

    He doesn't have not even respect for the dificult times living the people of Russia
    for the Plane crash and the Bulgarian President do not rest not even now to run the
    NATO propaganda. Hopefully he will die the way of qadaffi.

    Russia should cut all relations with Bulgaria and zero trade with them..
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:41 pm

    Reports that a Kh-55 missile hit a village north west of Aleppo.

    Tu-22s deployed...?
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    Post  Rodinazombie on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:07 pm

    ^^^

    Heres your answer:

    The information that Russia has struck Islamic State positions in Raqqa has been also reported by a senior French government source, cited by Reuters.

    A US official told Reuters that Moscow has conducted a significant number of strikes in Syria using both sea-launched cruise missiles and long-range bombers. He added that Russia gave notice to Washington ahead of the airstrikes, in accordance with an agreement on air safety.

    Earlier on Tuesday France’s defense ministry confirmed that Raqqa was also being targeted by the French military.

    "For the second time in 24 hours the French military conducted an air raid against Daesh [derogatory name for Islamic State] in Raqa [Raqqa] in Syria," the ministry said, adding that ten Rafale and Mirage 2000 fighters dropped at least 16 bombs.

    "Both targets [chosen for the attack] were hit and destroyed simultaneously…Conducted in coordination with US forces, the raid was aimed at sites identified during reconnaissance missions previously carried out by France."

    France started launching airstrikes against Islamic State militants in Syria in September. The strikes have intensified following the deadly Paris attacks on November 13 that left 129 people dead. The attacks were claimed by IS militants.

    On Tuesday, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian made the country’s first-ever request for military help from all 28 EU members in French operations in Middle East and Africa. Such EU defense cooperation is possible thanks to the 2009 Lisbon Treaty.

    "France cannot do everything, in the Sahel, in the Central African Republic, in the Levant and then secure its national territory," Le Drian said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/322413-russia-missiles-raqqa-mediterranean/

    Its only a 'us official' so far so lets see if the russian military will confirm it.



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    Post  max steel on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:07 pm

    Russian cruise missile crashed ??



    https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/666551326055223296



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    Post  auslander on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:08 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-sN2j3se-g
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:36 pm

    max steel wrote:Russian cruise missile crashed ??


    No. The first stage is detached and the missile goes into supersonic terminal stage.
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:41 pm

    Depends on the missile. If it is a Kh-55, then it could have malfunctioned. If it is a Kalibr, then very likely second stage initiated and first stage detached.

    Video says nothing, the tweet says nothing, and no one knows were the location is?
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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:06 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Looks at this Scum piece of shit..
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    The president of Bulgaria
    now comparing Russia with ISIS..  lol1

    he is obviously on the payroll of the western neomafia..

    http://uatoday.tv/politics/kremlin-plots-destruction-of-european-unity-bulgarian-president-plevneliev-535455.html

    He doesn't have not even respect for the dificult times living the people of Russia
    for the Plane crash and the Bulgarian President do not rest not even now to run the
    NATO propaganda. Hopefully he will die the way of qadaffi.

    Russia should cut all relations with Bulgaria and zero trade with them..
    What's with Bulgaria anyway? They have often similar names (Ivanov, Petrov, Borisov etc.) that the Russians do but they seem to hate Russia like Ukrainians do. So much hatred in the Eastern Europe and Slavic world Sad
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:10 pm

    They each try to outdo each other on who hates Russia more for more browny points to the US.  Pointless task and stupid really.  Makes them look foolish and silly.

    Dont mind them and their complexes.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:14 pm

    Cruise missile from allegedly today going across somewhere in Idlib

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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:22 pm

    It were Tu-22M3, Tu-95MS and Tu-160. They launched 34 cruise missiles.

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    Post  Neutrality on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:45 pm

    ult wrote:It were Tu-22M3, Tu-95MS and Tu-160. They launched 34 cruise missiles.


    Closer to the end Putin asks the captain of the Moskva to receive a French navy battlegroup as their allies.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:48 pm

    На сегодня запланировано 127 боевых вылетов в Сирии.
    с 5.00 до 5.30 12 Ту-22М3 с аэродрома Моздок нанесли удар по району Ракки и Дейр-эз-Зор. Второй удар Ту-22М3 нанесли с 16:30 по 17:00. С 9.00 по 9.40 5 Ту-95МС и 6 Ту-160 нанесли удар 34 крылатыми ракетами воздушного базирования по целям в провинциях Идлиб и Алеппо.
    Ту-22М3 преодолели 4510 км, Ту-160 и Ту-95МС - 6566 км.

    127 planned sorties for today.

    From 5:00 am to 5:30 12 Tu-22m3 from Mozdok made strikes against targets in Al-Raqqah and Deir ez-Zor. Second strike by Tu-22m3 took place at 16:30 - 17:00 pm. At 9:00-9:40 am 5 Tu-95MS and 6 Ty-160 launched 34 cruise missiles at targets in Aleppo and Idlib.

    The distance traveled by Tu-22M3 - 4510 km, Tu-160 and Tu-95MS - 6566 km.
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:49 pm

    Putin needs to tread carefully. Not long ago he stated they were bombing Syria illegally. Why now allow the French Navy to join Russia battle group? I dont like it.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:51 pm

    The planned expansion of Russian forces.

    Left - right now in Hmeymim. Top right - from Russia.
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    Post  ult on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:59 pm

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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:37 pm

    WTF. So Putin is pushing for cooperation woth France for France to illegaly bomb Syria without permission, and is exactly what Putin condemned months ago? What will Russia do then if France uses its position to Bomb assad and his forces? Will this be another Russian blunder like Libya?
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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:53 pm

    ult wrote:


    Holy Pirashkis, pelmennis, shashliks and borsht soups....

    Watch closely the first part of the video.
    They are using Kh-101 stealth cruise missiles launched from the rotary launchers inside the bombers
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:59 pm

    sepheronx wrote:WTF. So Putin is pushing for cooperation woth France for France to illegaly bomb Syria without permission, and is exactly what Putin condemned months ago? What will Russia do then if France uses its position to Bomb assad and his forces? Will this be another Russian blunder like Libya?
    If Putin is saying that there must be a possibility that Syria has invited France in to assist Russia. It is unlikely Russia, having made such a play on legality, would in effect shoot that argument in the foot.

    Very interesting that the RuAF is bringing in the Su-27 alongside the Su-30SM, not just more Su-30SMs. Could this be a demonstration as part of the export sales drive that is clearly underway? Perhaps we should expect to see all kinds of leading edge products getting an airing in public. Moscow certainly seems to be a lot less shy about what they are doing than US/NATO who release almost nothing. We have not been brought up to expect the US to be behind in a PR battle.

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