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    Post  Solncepek on Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:05 pm

    A remarkably candid analysis by U.S. Navy Commander Garrett I. Campbell (also a fellow at the Brookings Institution) concludes that not only has Russia's military shown incredible competency in Syria, it has also done more with less — using “outdated” naval vessels to fire state-of-the-art cruise missiles with no western equivalent, for example. Some highlights from his article:

    Russia's Air Power Is Nothing to Sneeze At

    According to Campbell:

    The Russians are flying a significant number of sorties with recognizable successes. Current estimates range from 48 to 96 daily. This is a lot…
    Can Russia sustain this level of air campaign? Maybe. Almost none of our NATO allies could match what Russia has done so far in the skies.


    Russia Does More With Less

    The Navy Commander also warns again dismissing Russia's naval capabilities:

    Russia's navy has been called “more rust than ready.” But Russia is, impressively, retrofitting older vessels and procuring newer ones. And the navy has unveiled a significant capability: Its Caspian Sea corvettes and frigates can fire cruise missiles at targets over 900 miles away. This is a previously unknown capability.

    To put things in perspective, the two variants of the US Littoral Combat Ship, Freedom and Independence, are substantially larger at roughly 2,900 tons and 3,100 tons, respectively — but they do not possess any cruise missile or similar power-projection capability.

    Stop Pretending Russia Isn't a Major Military Power

    Campbell ends his analysis with a stern warning to his fellow NATO brass and western think tank goons:

    Many assessments of what the Russian military can and cannot do have been inaccurate. This isn’t just problematic for facts' sake. More troubling, it risks skewing our assessment of how far Moscow will go in its Syrian intervention.

    When Western analysts — and, in turn, Western leaders — seek to discredit Russian military capabilities, Moscow will likely continue to take the opportunity to prove them wrong.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/us-navy-commander-russian-military-operations-syria-have-been-effective/ri10800
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    Post  ult on Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:16 pm

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    Few photos of which this Syrian soldier claims to be Russian soldier and their vehicle. Looks like AKS-74 in his hands. Unifom however is unusual pattern for Russians, looks like version of uniform i saw few times on MVD members, some kind of Woodlandish pattern but never on soldiers. (and guy kinda does not look to me like he is Russian to be honest)

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    Reminds abit of Serbian M03 pattern too.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:11 am


    Murad is da boss... lol1

    Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT 7h7 hours ago Syria

    also #ruaf has hit 678 kindergartens, 1780 schools, 9001 orphanages and killed a family of unicorns. Source: #CNN, Jihadists, @JulianRoepcke




    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:38 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Murad is da boss... lol1

    Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT  7h7 hours ago Syria

    also #ruaf has hit 678 kindergartens, 1780 schools, 9001 orphanages and killed a family of unicorns. Source: #CNN, Jihadists, @JulianRoepcke




    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    You forgot the kittens and puppies murdered by those soulless monsters during their attack on the peaceful Salafis.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:02 am

    kvs wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Murad is da boss... lol1

    Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT  7h7 hours ago Syria

    also #ruaf has hit 678 kindergartens, 1780 schools, 9001 orphanages and killed a family of unicorns. Source: #CNN, Jihadists, @JulianRoepcke




    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    You forgot the kittens and puppies murdered by those soulless monsters during their attack on the peaceful Salafis.



    Another one from Murad "US, Saudi's bomb hospitals - pics everywhere. #RuAF "hits" 9 hospitals - Just take our word for it!"

    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/659479254988660736
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:32 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Murad is da boss... lol1

    Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT  7h7 hours ago Syria

    also #ruaf has hit 678 kindergartens, 1780 schools, 9001 orphanages and killed a family of unicorns. Source: #CNN, Jihadists, @JulianRoepcke




    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Yeah thumbsup ..Him and Julian Roepcke are waging their own little war on twitter


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    Reports say #RuAF have conducted so far Tonight 11 (Eleven) Night Air Raids
    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/660209882155601920
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:46 am

    Something new...haven't seen any pics or videos yet though

    Russian Air Task Force Uses KAB-1500L Guided Bombs to Attack Terrorist Facilities in Syria

    Russian Air Force Uses KAB-250 Smart Bombs In Syria

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/168346/russia-details-weapons-used-in-syria-airstrikes.html

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:13 pm

    A bit more on the KAB-1500 use

    Russian Su-34 frontline bombers stationed at the Hmaimim air base near the Syrian port of Latakia have used KAB-1500 guided bombs to destroy Islamic State targets, RIA Novosti quoted Russian Aerospace Forces spokesman Igor Klimov as saying.

    Accompanied by Su-30SM multi-role fighter jets, the Su-34 planes dropped the 1,500 kg bombs on Islamic State targets in parts of eastern Syria controlled by the jihadist group. The Russian acronym KAB stands for "adjustable aircraft bomb" in English.

    "The KAB-1500 guided bomb is known for its high accuracy. It is equipped with a laser seeker which helps to direct the bomb," Klimov said. The KAB-1500L-Pr version, fitted with a 1,100-kg concrete-piercing warhead, is designed for attacking reinforced concrete fortifications, runways and rail bridges. The KAB-1500L-F version is equipped a 1,180-kg blast warhead for surface targets, such as military and industrial facilities. According to Klimov, these KAB-1500 bombs can pierce through twenty meters of soil or a three-meter reinforced concrete ceiling.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20151031/1029388140/russia-syria-bombs-islamic-state.html#ixzz3q9PMcdVg
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:34 pm

    Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.
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    Post  whir on Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:45 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:ISIS claims it's their job
    Glorious exposition, comrade.
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    Post  NationalRus on Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:50 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    saw the news on the way to work today, and we shall see how its "there" job, they have heavy AA in sinai? bitch please al thought it would be better if it was there job, a horrific terrorist act is very well and exploitable then just another "airplane tragedy"
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:03 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.
    No I doubt anyone here is in a jungle. The item has been covered but it is just in a more appropriate thread

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t4524p30-russian-civil-aviation-news-2

    I don't see what it has to do with Russian aid to Syria, that is this thread. Unless you believe that it was shot down or had a bomb as revenge by ISIS, but even then the link to here is tenuous.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:24 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    Taylor Swift experienced triple orgasm last night. PapaDragon claims it was his job. love
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:29 pm


    ''US air strikes in Syria decline since Russia’s bombing campaign''

    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2d74bbba-7efa-11e5-a1fe-567b37f80b64.html#ft-article-comments



    ''State Dept Pledges US Forces Deployed to Syria Will Not Fight Assad''

    http://sputniknews.com/world/20151031/1029394007/united-states-special-forces-syria.html
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    Post  ultron on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    Taylor Swift experienced triple orgasm last night. PapaDragon claims it was his job. love

    I don't matter. If ISIS claimed responsibility, then they are guilty of it.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:51 pm

    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    Taylor Swift experienced triple orgasm last night. PapaDragon claims it was his job. love

    I don't matter. If ISIS claimed responsibility, then they are guilty of it.
    Brilliant self analysis highlighted.
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    Post  Guest on Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:58 pm

    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    Taylor Swift experienced triple orgasm last night. PapaDragon claims it was his job. love

    I don't matter. If ISIS claimed responsibility, then they are guilty of it.

    I claim responsibility for yesterdays MiG31 crash. By your logic i am responsible...right?

    Ofc they will claim they are responsible, noone expected anything else.
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    Post  iraqidabab on Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:07 pm

    The claiming of responsibility was through their usual 'media' group which uses a specific format. Multiple times they've spread false news through this media group claiming the downing of helicopters whilst nothing happened, they'll claim things they didn't do as well for attention.
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    Post  ultron on Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:20 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, you live in jungle or what? Rolling Eyes

    Russian airliner crashed in the Sinai, over 200 civilians were killed. ISIS claims it's their job.

    Taylor Swift experienced triple orgasm last night. PapaDragon claims it was his job. love

    I don't matter. If ISIS claimed responsibility, then they are guilty of it.

    I claim responsibility for yesterdays MiG31 crash. By your logic i am responsible...right?

    Ofc they will claim they are responsible, noone expected anything else.

    ISIS claimed responsibility that gives Russia the right to deploy ground forces. If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
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    Post  whir on Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:45 pm

    ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
    Are you for real? Laughing
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    Post  ultron on Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:56 pm

    whir wrote:
    ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
    Are you for real? Laughing

    Believe it or not, if you claim responsibility for someone who got murdered, you get to be thrown in jail.
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    Post  Guest on Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:59 pm

    ultron wrote:
    whir wrote:
    ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
    Are you for real? Laughing

    Believe it or not, if you claim responsibility for someone who got murdered, you get to be thrown in jail.

    Not really lol. If you cant describe how you did it, if your prints are not on the weapon, if people saw you on other place at the time when murder happened... you might end up in jail but for false testimony. Police does not take someones word for granted, you might be protecting someone so no...
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    Post  ultron on Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:05 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    whir wrote:
    ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
    Are you for real? Laughing

    Believe it or not, if you claim responsibility for someone who got murdered, you get to be thrown in jail.

    Not really lol. If you cant describe how you did it, if your prints are not on the weapon, if people saw you on other place at the time when murder happened...  you might end up in jail but for false testimony. Police does not take someones word for granted, you might be protecting someone so no...

    In this case ISIS is guilty because they shot it down. An airliner does not crash on its own.
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    Post  Cyrus the great on Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:18 pm

    ultron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    whir wrote:
    ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
    Are you for real? Laughing

    Believe it or not, if you claim responsibility for someone who got murdered, you get to be thrown in jail.

    Not really lol. If you cant describe how you did it, if your prints are not on the weapon, if people saw you on other place at the time when murder happened...  you might end up in jail but for false testimony. Police does not take someones word for granted, you might be protecting someone so no...

    In this case ISIS is guilty because they shot it down. An airliner does not crash on its own.

    What are you on about? You do realise that aircraft can experience malfunctions and that pilots can commit errors? You're not seriously suggesting that every airliner that ever crashed was brought down by jihadists with a desire to return the world to 7th Century moral prescriptives. You're having a laugh, aren't you?

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