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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:58 pm

    auslander wrote:
    Militarov wrote:BSF ropucha class landing ship Tsezar Kunikov 158 transits southbound Bosphorus:





    Russian Navy Orthodox priest is part of the crew Very Happy

    Warrior Priests are a centuries old tradition in Russia. One of the main characters in my book is one, Father Mitrofan. The Priest at our Church is one also, Spetznaz, a veteran of Afghan and Chechnya. We get along rather well.

    In Serbian tradition Priests were often warriors and military commanders in fights aganist Turks/Austria/Albanians, one of my dearest is "Pop Bogdan Zimonjić" since he is from region where i was born. He was a real legend, man of few words but some of his action in combat became literally a legend.



    There is famous story how military attache from Austria tried to make him do biddings for Austria thinking how he will be able to decieve simple priest with his words, he talked almost 1h without stopping, Bogdan wouldnt say anything, when Austrian stopped talking he just said "Might be".

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Зимоньич,_Богдан few lines about him in Russian.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:14 pm



    Interesting way to adress public as a "Deputy Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL", first of all this is nowhere near modern diplomatic standard, seems like US got its Rogozin Very Happy

    Source: https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/650325282847608833

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Cucumber Khan on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:21 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    Interesting way to adress public as a "Deputy Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL", first of all this is nowhere near modern diplomatic standard, seems like US got its Rogozin Very Happy

    Source: https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/650325282847608833

    Read the replies, it's hillarious! He's getting chewed to pieces!
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:24 pm

    I like many replies on the twitter account: Where is the proof? Russia provides them. And the other one is: You dropped bombs on more hospitals?

    This is great. People fighting back at the bullshit the US and its allies are spewing.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:31 pm

    Someone (I think it was Vann actually) whom earlier said that when Russia engages ISIS and what not, US will start to try to take credit for Russia's achievements as US does with technology using international efforts and calling it their own.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:32 pm

    Just pure gold, but we know they are all Putin paid internet trolls... Laughing



    Someone hit the nail!
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:48 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Just pure gold, but we know they are all Putin paid internet trolls... Laughing



    Someone hit the nail!

    I got once replied by "bellingcat" that i am "Paid Russian troll from Sankt Peterburg" and that he hopes "My pay is worth my humiliation in supporting stupid PUTLER claims". All this coz i tried to explain him that 3 digit launcher number on that famous Russian Buk doesnt mean its part of unit that has same starting number as he linked some unit from Krasnodar or whatnot, my unit had launchers with 4 digits with no apparent order whatsoever and command vehicles had 3. Its all part of deception to hide actual number of launchers, missiles, command units etc...
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Zivo on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:57 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Just pure gold, but we know they are all Putin paid internet trolls... Laughing



    Someone hit the nail!

    I got once replied by "bellingcat" that i am "Paid Russian troll from Sankt Peterburg" and that he hopes "My pay is worth my humiliation in supporting stupid PUTLER claims". All this coz i tried to explain him that 3 digit launcher number on that famous Russian Buk doesnt mean its part of unit that has same starting number as he linked some unit from Krasnodar or whatnot, my unit had launchers with 4 digits with no apparent order whatsoever and command vehicles had 3. Its all part of deception to hide actual number of launchers, missiles, command units etc...

    Elliot Higgins is a complete tool. I commend your effort to debate him.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:58 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Just pure gold, but we know they are all Putin paid internet trolls... Laughing



    Someone hit the nail!

    I got once replied by "bellingcat" that i am "Paid Russian troll from Sankt Peterburg" and that he hopes "My pay is worth my humiliation in supporting stupid PUTLER claims". All this coz i tried to explain him that 3 digit launcher number on that famous Russian Buk doesnt mean its part of unit that has same starting number as he linked some unit from Krasnodar or whatnot, my unit had launchers with 4 digits with no apparent order whatsoever and command vehicles had 3. Its all part of deception to hide actual number of launchers, missiles, command units etc...

    We're all paid agents for Putler! pwnd I get paid $10 billion USD per year to be VVP's bullhorn... lol1



    ^^^Credit towards our resident Vietnamese citizen.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:59 pm

    We don't care what anyone else says, this is what we are doing, says Moscow.

    Russian aviation has conducted over 60 flights hitting more than 50 infrastructure facilities of the Islamic State in Syria, Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the Russian General Staff said Saturday.

    The Russian jets deployed in Syria carried out over 60 combat missions to destroy more than 50 positions of the Islamic State (ISIL) militants, the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the Russian General Staff said Saturday. The Russian Air Force has undermined the material base of ISIL and has significantly reduced the militants' combat potential over the three days of the military operation, Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov told reporters.

    Militants are leaving their positions in Syria, some 600 foreign mercenaries are trying to get to Europe following airstrikes conducted by the Russian Air and Space Forces. "The intelligence has captured that militants are leaving the areas under their control," Kartapolov said. "Panic and desertion have begun in their ranks. About 600 mercenaries have left their positions and are trying to get to Europe."

    The United States has notified the Russian Defense Ministry that there are only terrorists in the areas of Russia’s military operation against the Islamic State (ISIL) militant group in Syria. "The Americans have informed us during contacts that there was no one except terrorists in this region," Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov told reporters.

    Russia announced in advance the beginning of its airstrikes against the Islamic State positions in Syria, with the US defense attache in Iraq being among the first to have been informed on Wednesday.

    "The US military attache in Iraq… was one of the first to have been informed on September 30 by our representative in Baghdad," Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov told reporters. Kartapolov added that "this information was passed to our foreign colleagues not only through the Defense Ministry channels but also through the Foreign Ministry."

    The Russian Aerospace Forces will continue to conduct airstrikes on Islamic State militant group positions in Syria with increased intensity.

    "We will not only continue conducting our airstrikes, but will also increase their intensity," Andrei Kartapolov said. Kartapolov noted that the Russian airstrikes first of all target "command and control centers, ammunition and explosives warehouses, communication centers, mini-factories for the production of weapons of suicide bombings and militant training camps."


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151003/1027968467/russian-aviation-50-isil-facilities.html#ixzz3nX4tu3Gh
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  x_54_u43 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:01 pm

    Well, I have been looking into the drones being used by Russia in Syria, and I have come across something interesting.







    Exact same UI, same carrot marker, scale on the left... I think we found our little guy, and this little guy has apparently been used to film what I am guessing is either Patriot-2015 or Russian Arms Expo 2015.

    I am leaning towards the Zala 421-02 as a likely candidate, with over a 4 km ceiling and 6 hours of operating time. Or perhaps the Gorizont or Berkut.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  ult on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:14 pm



    And a big explosion in Idlib. Ammo depot?

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  mack8 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:16 pm

    Few more pics from Latakia:
    http://www.kp.ru/photo/gallery/63724/
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:17 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Well, still looks better than my meals in the army to be honest.

    The ageless buckwheat porridge with meat, a Russian military, and civilian, staple for centuries, some cucumbers for green, soup with spuds. Missing is the bread, another staple, but all and all good belly timber. Not gourmet but soldiers don't need that.

    Hmm. Clean hands and nails, married, silver wedding band on the usual right hand, high water mark on the shirt. And smiling.

    I would beg to differ on the "gourmet" thing. Sometimes a good tasty meal can bring up morals of soldiers more than anything in the field and to be honest never liked buckwheat porridge, tastes almost like nothing but of course among the easiest and most nutrious ways to provide meal without much costs or overall resources weighting on logistics.

    Want to hear my "casual" meal in the army?

    Breakfasts:

    - bread (from yesterday, so we eat less of it, also its true 24h old bread is healthier but... its not that nice) or some hard thing they call bisquit from field ration (they would open soon to expire rations and serve them for breakfast very often taking out pate, tea, bisquits, cheese etc).
    - liver pate or melted cheese from sheep milk (we suspect its sheep at least, maybe dragon too), margarine and jam both from field rations and impossible to spread on bread
    - Hot dogs (actually we belive actual dogs were used), salami or boiled eggs
    - jogurt from plastic package, tea (with some weird ironish taste to it)

    Exceptions did exist but this is somewhat of a standard rotation.

    Lunch:

    - Cabbage with meat - Russians, anyone?
    - Beans with meat (belive it or not, probably best meals i ever had, both in barracks and the field from field kitchen)
    - Green beans with meat - What about no...
    - Moussaka - sounds good right? Well it wasnt...
    - Drnč - impossible to translate, it slang for certain type of stew made of potato, meat, carrots etc (basically whatever was leftover from two previous meals, no jokes) wasnt that bad actually but soldiers called it Drnč after special detergent that was used to clean rifles
    - Riži-biži - basically peas, rice and spices with some meat

    Dinner:

    Was mix of lunch and breakfast leftovers i guess, depending how lucky you are. Sometimes it would be something else but meh. Often we would get sardine, if there wasnt any onion i would just go to sleep, i cant eat that crap without onions Very Happy

    I understand its all about being nutritious and easy to transport-prepare, but i was enjoying so much when we get in field beans with alot of smoked meat or sausage and cabbage salad...brings good mood and life into you.

    Well you had it better than us

    Breakfast: Potatoes
    Lunch: Mashed Potatoes, Potato soup
    Dinner: More Potatoes
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:18 pm

    Zivo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Just pure gold, but we know they are all Putin paid internet trolls... Laughing



    Someone hit the nail!

    I got once replied by "bellingcat" that i am "Paid Russian troll from Sankt Peterburg" and that he hopes "My pay is worth my humiliation in supporting stupid PUTLER claims". All this coz i tried to explain him that 3 digit launcher number on that famous Russian Buk doesnt mean its part of unit that has same starting number as he linked some unit from Krasnodar or whatnot, my unit had launchers with 4 digits with no apparent order whatsoever and command vehicles had 3. Its all part of deception to hide actual number of launchers, missiles, command units etc...

    Elliot Higgins is a complete tool. I commend your effort to debate him.

    The irony is many of his claims have been investigated and discredited by scientists at MIT.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:22 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Unexploded bomb in Ehsim city in Idlib.


    Why Dumb Bombs fail to blow ?

    Fuse malfunction or just from being too old.

    Likely their legacy bombs from the Soviet period, near their expiration dates. Ironically enough it may actually be cheaper to drop the legacy bombs on the Wahabbi/Salafi vermin then to scrap and dispose of them safely.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  zg18 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:23 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Breakfast: Potatoes
    Lunch: Mashed Potatoes, Potato soup
    Dinner: More Potatoes

    That`s what you get when you`re allied with Belarus Very Happy
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:25 pm

    x_54_u43 wrote:Well, I have been looking into the drones being used by Russia in Syria, and I have come across something interesting.







    Exact same UI, same carrot marker, scale on the left... I think we found our little guy, and this little guy has apparently been used to film what I am guessing is either Patriot-2015 or Russian Arms Expo 2015.

    I am leaning towards the Zala 421-02 as a likely candidate, with over a 4 km ceiling and 6 hours of operating time. Or perhaps the Gorizont or Berkut.

    Doesnt have to be, software like this are easily converted to work with any drone most are even multifunctional so same control unit is used for wide variety of vehicles. Also drones mostly use very similar softwares themself too just hardware that is imputing data is variable. We shall be sure which drone is in question when we see its pic i guess, but nice research efford right there.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  mack8 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:25 pm

    On more tactical issues, i see that apart from the CAP dedicated Su-30SM none of the other aircraft seem to carry any self-defence missiles. Given the american & their puppets' belicosity, it will probably wise to do so. Su-34 especially is too valuable not to fly with at least couple of R-73s and even couple of R-27s too.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:27 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Well, still looks better than my meals in the army to be honest.

    The ageless buckwheat porridge with meat, a Russian military, and civilian, staple for centuries, some cucumbers for green, soup with spuds. Missing is the bread, another staple, but all and all good belly timber. Not gourmet but soldiers don't need that.

    Hmm. Clean hands and nails, married, silver wedding band on the usual right hand, high water mark on the shirt. And smiling.

    I would beg to differ on the "gourmet" thing. Sometimes a good tasty meal can bring up morals of soldiers more than anything in the field and to be honest never liked buckwheat porridge, tastes almost like nothing but of course among the easiest and most nutrious ways to provide meal without much costs or overall resources weighting on logistics.

    Want to hear my "casual" meal in the army?

    Breakfasts:

    - bread (from yesterday, so we eat less of it, also its true 24h old bread is healthier but... its not that nice) or some hard thing they call bisquit from field ration (they would open soon to expire rations and serve them for breakfast very often taking out pate, tea, bisquits, cheese etc).
    - liver pate or melted cheese from sheep milk (we suspect its sheep at least, maybe dragon too), margarine and jam both from field rations and impossible to spread on bread
    - Hot dogs (actually we belive actual dogs were used), salami or boiled eggs
    - jogurt from plastic package, tea (with some weird ironish taste to it)

    Exceptions did exist but this is somewhat of a standard rotation.

    Lunch:

    - Cabbage with meat - Russians, anyone?
    - Beans with meat (belive it or not, probably best meals i ever had, both in barracks and the field from field kitchen)
    - Green beans with meat - What about no...
    - Moussaka - sounds good right? Well it wasnt...
    - Drnč - impossible to translate, it slang for certain type of stew made of potato, meat, carrots etc (basically whatever was leftover from two previous meals, no jokes) wasnt that bad actually but soldiers called it Drnč after special detergent that was used to clean rifles
    - Riži-biži - basically peas, rice and spices with some meat

    Dinner:

    Was mix of lunch and breakfast leftovers i guess, depending how lucky you are. Sometimes it would be something else but meh. Often we would get sardine, if there wasnt any onion i would just go to sleep, i cant eat that crap without onions Very Happy

    I understand its all about being nutritious and easy to transport-prepare, but i was enjoying so much when we get in field beans with alot of smoked meat or sausage and cabbage salad...brings good mood and life into you.

    Well you had it better than us

    Breakfast: Potatoes
    Lunch: Mashed Potatoes, Potato soup
    Dinner: More Potatoes

    I choked on my tea man Very Happy
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  x_54_u43 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:38 pm

    Found our little guy, made by Indela, and shown off very recently...in 2015 Arms Expo.



    Here is the exact same control station in the video. Here is the picture I posted last page.


    Here is the drone itself.





    Glad to see the exponential increase of thermal imagers in the Russian military.


    EDIT: FFS!! The control station is not the same one! Oh well, for now I'll consider it to be the drone due to the possiblity of the different control stations being used, if you take a look at the Russia-24 pic, the control station seems to be very early model, as the video in the bottom does not take up the full screen. So until we know for sure, I think this is the most likely possibility.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Solncepek on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:45 pm

    The offensive began SAA in the North of HOMS

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  Militarov on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:46 pm



    Numbers on two SU24s are back too.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:54 pm

    Viktor Orbán strikes again... Cool

    Hungary Urges US-Led Coalition to Cooperate With Russia in Anti-ISIL Fight

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    R-27 Equiped Russian jets over Syria

    Post  smerch24 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:06 pm



    Hey guys

    Its a question i always ask myself, why are RUaf so slow to replace the aging R-27s? I know they can come with very modern sensors, and the ER version have really long legs, but they are generations behind the latest medium ranged AAMs of NATO.

    If iam not correct, its common for aircrafts to carry AAMs for any sorties. Could these Su-30SM be escorts for the older Su-24M platforms?

    One can understand the danger of confrontation between the US, French, Israeli and maybe UK (depends how the parliament will vote!) is very real. And those powers have some modern AAMs equipped in their fighters and strike aircraft's

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