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    Post  NationalRus on Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:24 pm

    ultron wrote:I would seriously commit suicide if Putin does air strikes against jihadists in Syria. Serious.

    or he now stayed true to his words and commited suicide or my report on him worked, mods wrote me back already that they send his case too vlad
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    Post  ult on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:23 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:Has ultron committed suicide yet?

    Probably creating fourth account and burning Russian flag as we speak. He will rejoin us shortly I assume under the name of Tony Stark... Razz

    For those who're unaware, what's the deal with that guy?
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    Post  zorobabel on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:23 pm

    Nice work, VVS. Here's to hoping the SAA has enough fight in it to launch some offensives.
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    Post  ult on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:31 pm

    zorobabel wrote:What do you guys make of this? https://twitter.com/oleg_andree/status/649227473205493760

    Another ukro bot dreaming about Russian casualties? What of it? The picture is from the airshow.
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    Post  zorobabel on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:31 pm

    ult wrote:
    zorobabel wrote:What do you guys make of this? https://twitter.com/oleg_andree/status/649227473205493760

    Another ukro bot dreaming about Russian casualties? What of it? The picture is from the airshow.
    Yes, I deleted the post after I saw the source. Apologies.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:34 pm

    ult wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:Has ultron committed suicide yet?

    Probably creating fourth account and burning Russian flag as we speak. He will rejoin us shortly I assume under the name of Tony Stark... Razz

    For those who're unaware, what's the deal with that guy?

    Resident troll formerly known as Flagship Victory and Karl Haushoffer. Probably Ukrainian or maybe even Balt or Pole.

    Goes around being a retard hoping that someone might start emulating him.

    Standard ignore list material.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:36 pm


    Suspect

    Why Can't Russia and China Help Police the World?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-mullen/why-cant-russia-and-china_b_8210534.html

    President Obama today announced his administration's reluctant agreement to work with Russia and Iran to defeat ISIS and Al Qaeda in the Middle East. This will no doubt be met with howls of "Weakness!" and "leading from behind" by Mr. Obama's Republican detractors.

    We may even hear the tired "appeasement" argument trotted out regarding both Russia's and Iran's supposed ambitions to expand their territories.

    Republicans have consistently criticized Obama for not being aggressive enough on the world stage and for pulling back too early from Iraq and Afghanistan. With the emergence of ISIS, the GOP has seized the opportunity to quash more reasonable foreign policy positions from candidates like Rand Paul and push for sharper increases in military spending and even more aggressive foreign intervention.

    The argument we hear repeatedly from Republican presidential candidates is that Obama has "eviscerated the military" and "led from behind." If the United States is not "engaged" (i.e., bombing or invading) in all crises at all times in every part of the world, emerging powers like Russia or China are going to fill the resulting vacuum. That raises an obvious question:

    So, what?

    Personally, I don't buy into the worldview that "grown-up" nations like the United States or Great Britain are either justified or capable of policing anyone. Just take a look at their results so far. But if there is any benefit to the so-called First World policing the Third, why can't Russia shoulder some of the responsibility for the regions just outside its borders? Why can't China police the South China Sea?

    Interventionists from both parties talk about international relations like they're playing Stratego, where one nation has to win and every other has to lose. Voters are too willing to accept that ridiculous assumption, instead of asking some pretty obvious questions:

    How do American taxpayers benefit by subsidizing Syrian rebels?

    How are they harmed if Assad stays in power?

    Why should they care if China is the dominant naval force in the sea bearing its name?

    What benefit did they derive from the Ukranian revolution and how will they be harmed if it is reversed?

    All of these are derivative of the ultimate question every American should be asking their elected officials, in both parties:

    How did American taxpayers become financially responsible for the liberty and security of every soul on the planet and when will this responsibility end?

    After the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the neoconservative Project for a New American Century (PNAC) posited that the United States had twenty years to do anything it wanted on the world stage before a new superpower would likely emerge to challenge it. One key objective of PNAC was to topple Middle Eastern governments and "remake the Middle East" into a region dominated by new, Western-style democracies.

    The United States has pursued this insane vision under both the Bush and Obama administrations, deposing Saddam Hussein, Muammar Ghaddafi and Hosni Mubarak among others. Have American taxpayers benefited from the results? How?

    They are now pushing hard to continue with Assad in Syria and Khamenei in Iran. While there is plenty to say against both regimes, how could any sane person believe the results will be different than they were in Iraq, Libya or Egypt?

    The reality is the "exceptional nation" has made a holy mess of the international order during its tenure as the sole superpower. Americans have derived no benefit from its interventions anywhere, including Afghanistan, where the Taliban continues to reclaim the territory it lost after the 2001 U.S. invasion.

    Democrats want to blame all of this on Bush, while Republicans want to blame Obama. The truth is this has been a completely bipartisan disaster. The Obama administration has been every bit as interventionist as Bush's; in total countries "engaged," even more so.

    Its arming of Syrian rebels may have done more to create ISIS than pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq. And if you think U.S. intelligence operations had nothing to do with starting the so-called "Arab Spring" revolutions in the first place, I have a bridge to sell you.

    While continuing and expanding Bush's disaster in the Middle East, the Obama administration has managed to antagonize both Russia and China into allying more with each other and with Iran. This under the pretense that Russia and China are expansionist, based on Russia's rather restrained reactions to conflicts on its border fomented, at least in part, by U.S. intelligence.

    While spending nearly a trillion dollars a year on the military, when all spending hidden in federal departments like Energy are included, the U.S. government has the audacity to point to China's modest military spending increases as proof of its aggressive tendencies, never once stopping to ask why China might perceive a need to spend more. Could it be because China is one of ten countries who combined don't spend as much as the U.S?

    As for Putin's expansionism, American taxpayers would be well served to compare the list of Russian military bases outside its border to the corresponding U.S. list. How can American politicians keep a straight face while calling Putin aggressive?

    Twenty years of "exceptionalism" has provided zero benefits to American taxpayers. All they have received for their money is a $4 trillion government with an $18 trillion debt, a far more dangerous world and the added benefit of a domestic police force that behaves as if it's patrolling the streets of Fallujah instead of New York or Boston.

    If taking on some of the burden of fighting ISIS simultaneously allows Russia to maintain its single military base in the Middle East, more power to them. If it thwarts U.S. attempts overthrow the Assad regime, even better. Americans certainly aren't better off with ISIS running Iraq and Syria, as its name aspires to.

    And if China wants to waste its money pouring sand onto reefs in the ocean off its coast, American taxpayers derive no benefit from trying to stop them.

    Besides, they'd never loan us the money.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:48 pm


    Awkwarddddd.... lol1 russia

    Russia calls on UN Security Council to impose sanctions against Islamic State supporters - Lavrov

    https://www.rt.com/news/317068-russia-isis-islamic-syria/

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    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:06 pm

    @PapaDragon: oh no I am slower than you. Very Happy

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    Post  Book. on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:42 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Some comic relief Twisted Evil

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:43 pm

    NationalRus wrote:
    ultron wrote:I would seriously commit suicide if Putin does air strikes against jihadists in Syria. Serious.

    or he now stayed true to his words and commited suicide or my report on him worked, mods wrote me back already that they send his case too vlad
    Good man.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:30 pm

    Some people are eating humble pie with egg on their face now that Russia is conducting airstrikes, and delivering S-300's, and not just Ultron, others too! *not mentioning any names*
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:38 pm

    zorobabel wrote:Nice work, VVS.

    It is now called VKS. russia
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    Post  Neutrality on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:57 pm

    Best of luck to the VKS guys. About time some real damage is done.
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:57 pm

    "Syria - Terrorist chief Iyad Deek killed during Russia airstrikes in N. Homs area reports say."

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    I apologise for source its in Italian (sister is fluent in it).

    Source: https://twitter.com/NamanTarcha/status/649251515920719872
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    Post  Cucumber Khan on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:10 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Some people are eating humble pie with egg on their face now that Russia is conducting airstrikes, and delivering S-300's, and not just Ultron, others too! *not mentioning any names*

    Really, S-300? What sources do you have for that?
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    Post  Guest on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:17 pm

    Aaaaaaand media war started.

    "Russia strike today in Homs left 33 dead civilians including 3 children"

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    Source: https://twitter.com/NamanTarcha/status/649240909243133952 - sry again Italian
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    Post  Bolt on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:18 pm



    Allegedly, the first Russian air strike
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    Post  ult on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:27 pm

    Ministry of Defense video.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:35 pm

    Cucumber Khan wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Some people are eating humble pie with egg on their face now that Russia is conducting airstrikes, and delivering S-300's, and not just Ultron, others too! *not mentioning any names*

    Really, S-300? What sources do you have for that?

    From several pages earlier in the thread:


    Akula971 wrote:I dont mean to jump to any conclusion here guys but i just came across this article suggesting S300 / S400s are already in Syria. I am not 100% sure but i will post it.

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    The system does look like a S300

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    My question is - Did Iran get its S300s delivered already ?

    The article claims a lot of other things too but I am not sure.

    Article :
    http://norg-norg.livejournal.com/118387.html
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    Post  medo on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:58 pm

    It seems for now only Su-24M2 made attacks on terrorists. Maybe RuAF will use Su-34 for night attacks. I wonder if Su-30SM will also be used for ground attacks or for air protection and will they also operate in night time.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:13 pm

    R.I.P. Maksim Trifonov, your exploits are the stuff of legends:

    Former Lugansk “Batman” fighter killed in Syria

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    Post  max steel on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:17 pm

    Moscow: Western media lied about the victims of Russian air strikes in Syria
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:12 pm

    ult wrote:Ministry of Defense video.

    This looks like drone sourced video. Not quite like a 'typical' bang on target through the roof US smart munition strike. Look at 0.30 they seem to be targeting the building complex with large bombs or missiles, one explosion is near the complex and certainly damages it whilst the other is in a nearby field. Still practice makes perfect.

    The earlier strike in the video could be a cluster or multi small bomb hit.
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    Post  medo on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:19 pm

    ult wrote:Ministry of Defense video.


    I'm not sure, but at the last attack with a big bomb, it seems like they hit a tunnel and underground space. It looks like the roof is shaking and breaking and than smoke come from the break like the second explosion.

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