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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:22 pm

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
    Flyboy77 wrote:The T-90 are be deployed to protect Russia's operation at Latakia's Airport. They are not for the Syrian Army.

    If any T-90 are deployed in Syria. Anonymous US sources should not be trusted blindly.

    Seriously, it's like some people were born yesterday...and I wonder if anyone wants to buy a bridge in Brooklyn.Wink
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:42 pm

    A huge blast destroys a huge ammo depot in Southern Turkey....the jackass Erdogan made a huge mistake by announcing a joint Ukrainian-Turkish military contingent... thumbsup

    Blast rocks ammunition depot in southeastern Turkey

    ...It'd be nice to see a DPR-like Kurdish state carved out of Southern Turkey, because it's time to let the Neo-Ottomans have a taste of their own medicine!
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    Post  Dima Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:39 pm

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
    Dima wrote:Right now Russia might just be making it enough to protect Tartus & Latakia and the western front, but the eventual result should be a formidable Kaliningrad or Crimea in the Mediterranean. Russia should stop nothing short of it and help cleanse Syria of the international terrorist.

    No, it should not.
    The main purpose of the RAF is to protect Russian citizens and territory, not other distant countries.
    The military presence in Syria should remain limited.

    Yes it should!!!

    To fight a bully after he enters your compound or house will only damage your own property and hence its always wise and the right thing to find a proper place from which you can hold him by his balls and send the right message across...


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    Post  Dima Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:43 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:A huge blast destroys a huge ammo depot in Southern Turkey....the jackass Erdogan made a huge mistake by announcing a joint Ukrainian-Turkish military contingent... thumbsup

    Blast rocks ammunition depot in southeastern Turkey

    ...It'd be nice to see a DPR-like Kurdish state carved out of Southern Turkey, because it's time to let the Neo-Ottomans have a taste of their own medicine!
    Yes agree, its high time to carve out such a state and Syrian part is clear. Russia also needs to provide arms to the Kurdish units to strengthen them in their fight against the ISIL and defend them from the Turkish attacks.
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    Post  max steel Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:54 pm





    Israel’s Netanyahu to meet Putin for Syria talks

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will visit Russia next week for talks with President Vladimir Putin on the expanding Russian military presence in Syria, an Israeli official said on Wednesday.

    “The prime minister will present the threats to Israel emanating from the increased flow of advanced weaponry to the Syrian arena and from the transfer of lethal weaponry to Hezbollah and other terrorist groups,” the official said.

    Moscow has come under international pressure to explain its moves in Syria, where the Kremlin has been supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in a 4-year-old civil war.

    The Kremlin confirmed the visit, with Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov telling Russian media that Netanyahu will come to Moscow on Sept. 21.

    “On Monday, there will be a short working visit and talks with Vladimir Putin,” RIA news agency quoted Peskov as saying.

    On Monday, two U.S. officials said Russia had positioned about a half dozen tanks at an airfield at the centre of a military buildup in Syria and that the intentions of Moscow’s latest deployment of heavy equipment were unclear.

    Western officials and a Russian source said last week that Russia was sending an advanced anti-aircraft missile system to Syria in support of Assad.

    The Western officials said the SA-22 system would be operated by Russian troops. A U.S. official, who confirmed the information, said the system may be part of a Russian effort to bolster defences at an airfield near Latakia, an Assad stronghold.

    Even if Russians operated the missiles and kept them out of the hands of the Syrian army, the arrival of such an advanced anti-aircraft system could unsettle Israel, which in the past has bombed sophisticated arms it suspected were being handed to Assad’s Lebanese guerrilla allies, Hezbollah.

    Worried about accidentally coming to blows with Russian reinforcements in Syria, Israeli officials said last week they were in contact with Moscow. But Israel also made clear it would continue its policy of stopping advanced arms reaching Hezbollah.

    The United States is using Syrian airspace to lead a campaign of air strikes against Islamic State. A greater Russian presence raises the prospect of the Cold War superpower foes encountering each other on the battlefield.

    Russia has said it will continue providing military supplies to Syria and that its assistance to the Syrian army is in line with international law.

    The Syrian civil war, in which about 250,000 people have died, has caused nearly half of Syria’s prewar population of 23 million to flee, with many thousands attempting to reach Europe.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20150916-israel-netanyahu-meet-putin-russia-syria-talks?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2015-09-16
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    Post  Dima Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:02 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Dima wrote:I feel bad that Russia doesn't have a good English media outlet that has the editorial depth and teeth to shred to pieces the propaganda coming from the West. Russia has put all its eggs in one basket called RT which is toothless and a blunder. I watch it only coz I got no other option and every single day I wish it gets matured and grow some teeth.  

    I watch all the western propaganda machines except the US ones which is unbearably boring and these are the propaganda outlets that Russian media have to handle and I admire these anti-Russian outlets editorial finesse - BBC, DW, France24, Al Jazeera....the last one if mistaken for BBC can be forgiven as too many faces are from BBC.
    Then there is NHK world, a fine broadcasting channel and like the Japanese no other option but to utter masters garbage.

    CCTV English is no better, but better than RT, as their Western reporters who report for CCTV has got their own anti-Russian bias.

    www.russia-insider.com

    It's very good, regularly rips Western media propaganda to shreds.

    Plenty of smaller think-tanks, opinion websites, blogs, etc... which are referenced there (and on these forums too).

    Sputnik News isn't bad either, they're like a less *****, more serious version of RT albeit they still do have a tongue in cheek sometimes.

    RT is pretty much more about ratings nowadays than countering propaganda or promoting the Russian view in any serious manner. They fling the poo that sticks.
    I should have been clearer, I specifically meant visual media. It has be strengthened coz how many people will trawl the internet to read what you, me and almost all others in this forum do? Basically negligible amount, and that is vastly inadequate to form a positive outlook towards Russia and the news/reports thats coming from outside of the western propaganda machinery.

    magnumcromagnon wrote:You cant go wrong with these sites then:

    http://journal-neo.org/

    http://orientalreview.org/

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/

    But whats the use if its just limited to me, you and this forum. The millions and millions around the globe need to have it their living room and they should be able to tune into the same channel again and again....and for that, quality of contents is very important and the narrative with reports/documentaries which have the ability to melt into the viewers mind is necessary....thats what a proper matured outlet will provide and should be aiming for. This is where the English language Russia media outlets loose out. RT sadly is at the bottom in that department. Press TV documentaries are also mostly very well made and appreciate the Iranians.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:36 pm

    Dima wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Dima wrote:I feel bad that Russia doesn't have a good English media outlet that has the editorial depth and teeth to shred to pieces the propaganda coming from the West. Russia has put all its eggs in one basket called RT which is toothless and a blunder. I watch it only coz I got no other option and every single day I wish it gets matured and grow some teeth.  

    I watch all the western propaganda machines except the US ones which is unbearably boring and these are the propaganda outlets that Russian media have to handle and I admire these anti-Russian outlets editorial finesse - BBC, DW, France24, Al Jazeera....the last one if mistaken for BBC can be forgiven as too many faces are from BBC.
    Then there is NHK world, a fine broadcasting channel and like the Japanese no other option but to utter masters garbage.

    CCTV English is no better, but better than RT, as their Western reporters who report for CCTV has got their own anti-Russian bias.

    www.russia-insider.com

    It's very good, regularly rips Western media propaganda to shreds.

    Plenty of smaller think-tanks, opinion websites, blogs, etc... which are referenced there (and on these forums too).

    Sputnik News isn't bad either, they're like a less *****, more serious version of RT albeit they still do have a tongue in cheek sometimes.

    RT is pretty much more about ratings nowadays than countering propaganda or promoting the Russian view in any serious manner. They fling the poo that sticks.
    I should have been clearer, I specifically meant visual media. It has be strengthened coz how many people will trawl the internet to read what you, me and almost all others in this forum do? Basically negligible amount, and that is vastly inadequate to form a positive outlook towards Russia and the news/reports thats coming from outside of the western propaganda machinery.

    magnumcromagnon wrote:You cant go wrong with these sites then:

    http://journal-neo.org/

    http://orientalreview.org/

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/

    But whats the use if its just limited to me, you and this forum. The millions and millions around the globe need to have it their living room and they should be able to tune into the same channel again and again....and for that, quality of contents is very important and the narrative with reports/documentaries which have the ability to melt into the viewers mind is necessary....thats what a proper matured outlet will provide and should be aiming for. This is where the English language Russia media outlets loose out. RT sadly is at the bottom in that department. Press TV documentaries are also mostly very well made and appreciate the Iranians.

    I understand what you mean however, politics isn't for everybody. The vast majority of people have barely time after work to care for such things and the only time they have for that is almost brainless consuming of 18:00 or 20:00 o'clock news in the tely and that is where the problem defines almost the entire depth of your news agencies. If you want to achieve something with non Mainstream Media you have to make it relative simple, the main thing RT does is not anti american and some blind pro russian, the absolute majority of their videos is nothing else but showing what US does without fabricating anything. The US has so much shit on their hands that their entire bodies up to heads are covered in it and RT just shows it, the simpliest way of doing the infowar.

    What you and i would like to see only appeals to very low number of people and would add absolutley nothing to our knowledge, because we already have enough independend sources to cover in a more depth way of the actual geopolitics. They are usually bloggers and not some multi billionar private people owning MSM which are observed and supervisioned by Secret Services or states.

    They do not need to waste money for information war towards us who already have a great interest and understanding of politics and geopolitics, they need to change the anti russian views of those who are effected by such views.
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    Post  par far Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:46 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:A huge blast destroys a huge ammo depot in Southern Turkey....the jackass Erdogan made a huge mistake by announcing a joint Ukrainian-Turkish military contingent... thumbsup

    Blast rocks ammunition depot in southeastern Turkey

    ...It'd be nice to see a DPR-like Kurdish state carved out of Southern Turkey, because it's time to let the Neo-Ottomans have a taste of their own medicine!



    This is just being done for elections, Erdogan is probably going to lose, so they need votes and they have resorted to this.
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    Post  par far Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:48 pm

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     Israel’s Netanyahu to meet Putin for Syria talks  

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will visit Russia next week for talks with President Vladimir Putin on the expanding Russian military presence in Syria, an Israeli official said on Wednesday.

    “The prime minister will present the threats to Israel emanating from the increased flow of advanced weaponry to the Syrian arena and from the transfer of lethal weaponry to Hezbollah and other terrorist groups,” the official said.

    Moscow has come under international pressure to explain its moves in Syria, where the Kremlin has been supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in a 4-year-old civil war.

    The Kremlin confirmed the visit, with Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov telling Russian media that Netanyahu will come to Moscow on Sept. 21.

    “On Monday, there will be a short working visit and talks with Vladimir Putin,” RIA news agency quoted Peskov as saying.

    On Monday, two U.S. officials said Russia had positioned about a half dozen tanks at an airfield at the centre of a military buildup in Syria and that the intentions of Moscow’s latest deployment of heavy equipment were unclear.

    Western officials and a Russian source said last week that Russia was sending an advanced anti-aircraft missile system to Syria in support of Assad.

    The Western officials said the SA-22 system would be operated by Russian troops. A U.S. official, who confirmed the information, said the system may be part of a Russian effort to bolster defences at an airfield near Latakia, an Assad stronghold.

    Even if Russians operated the missiles and kept them out of the hands of the Syrian army, the arrival of such an advanced anti-aircraft system could unsettle Israel, which in the past has bombed sophisticated arms it suspected were being handed to Assad’s Lebanese guerrilla allies, Hezbollah.

    Worried about accidentally coming to blows with Russian reinforcements in Syria, Israeli officials said last week they were in contact with Moscow. But Israel also made clear it would continue its policy of stopping advanced arms reaching Hezbollah.

    The United States is using Syrian airspace to lead a campaign of air strikes against Islamic State. A greater Russian presence raises the prospect of the Cold War superpower foes encountering each other on the battlefield.

    Russia has said it will continue providing military supplies to Syria and that its assistance to the Syrian army is in line with international law.

    The Syrian civil war, in which about 250,000 people have died, has caused nearly half of Syria’s prewar population of 23 million to flee, with many thousands attempting to reach Europe.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20150916-israel-netanyahu-meet-putin-russia-syria-talks?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2015-09-16


    Why are they letting this asshole into Russia, who cares about the threats to Israel, did Israel care about threats to Russia, when Mossad was training Nazis in Ukraine?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:00 pm

    par far wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:A huge blast destroys a huge ammo depot in Southern Turkey....the jackass Erdogan made a huge mistake by announcing a joint Ukrainian-Turkish military contingent... thumbsup

    Blast rocks ammunition depot in southeastern Turkey

    ...It'd be nice to see a DPR-like Kurdish state carved out of Southern Turkey, because it's time to let the Neo-Ottomans have a taste of their own medicine!



    This is just being done for elections, Erdogan is probably going to lose, so they need votes and they have resorted to this.

    But you don't take out a huge logistical asset like a ammo depot, especially considering how Erdogan likes providing ammo for ISIS to fight the Kurds.
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    Post  par far Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:00 pm

    max steel wrote:



     Israel’s Netanyahu to meet Putin for Syria talks  

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will visit Russia next week for talks with President Vladimir Putin on the expanding Russian military presence in Syria, an Israeli official said on Wednesday.

    “The prime minister will present the threats to Israel emanating from the increased flow of advanced weaponry to the Syrian arena and from the transfer of lethal weaponry to Hezbollah and other terrorist groups,” the official said.

    Moscow has come under international pressure to explain its moves in Syria, where the Kremlin has been supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in a 4-year-old civil war.

    The Kremlin confirmed the visit, with Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov telling Russian media that Netanyahu will come to Moscow on Sept. 21.

    “On Monday, there will be a short working visit and talks with Vladimir Putin,” RIA news agency quoted Peskov as saying.

    On Monday, two U.S. officials said Russia had positioned about a half dozen tanks at an airfield at the centre of a military buildup in Syria and that the intentions of Moscow’s latest deployment of heavy equipment were unclear.

    Western officials and a Russian source said last week that Russia was sending an advanced anti-aircraft missile system to Syria in support of Assad.

    The Western officials said the SA-22 system would be operated by Russian troops. A U.S. official, who confirmed the information, said the system may be part of a Russian effort to bolster defences at an airfield near Latakia, an Assad stronghold.

    Even if Russians operated the missiles and kept them out of the hands of the Syrian army, the arrival of such an advanced anti-aircraft system could unsettle Israel, which in the past has bombed sophisticated arms it suspected were being handed to Assad’s Lebanese guerrilla allies, Hezbollah.

    Worried about accidentally coming to blows with Russian reinforcements in Syria, Israeli officials said last week they were in contact with Moscow. But Israel also made clear it would continue its policy of stopping advanced arms reaching Hezbollah.

    The United States is using Syrian airspace to lead a campaign of air strikes against Islamic State. A greater Russian presence raises the prospect of the Cold War superpower foes encountering each other on the battlefield.

    Russia has said it will continue providing military supplies to Syria and that its assistance to the Syrian army is in line with international law.

    The Syrian civil war, in which about 250,000 people have died, has caused nearly half of Syria’s prewar population of 23 million to flee, with many thousands attempting to reach Europe.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20150916-israel-netanyahu-meet-putin-russia-syria-talks?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2015-09-16


    Why are they letting this asshole into Russia, who cares about the threats to Israel, did Israel care about threats to Russia, when Mossad was training Nazis in Ukraine?
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    Post  Flyboy77 Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:50 am

    Interesting article on the Russian deployment at the airbase in Latakia with Satellite photo. Hopeful these photos don't get people kill by giving Intel to the enemy forces in the area.  No


    Russia Fortifies Its Position in Syria

    Analysis

    The Russian military deployment to the Bassel al Assad air base in Latakia, Syria, is continuing at a rapid tempo, Stratfor can confirm. Previous imagery of the airfield, taken Sept. 4, showed significant engineering works underway. New imagery from Sept. 15 reveals the completion of several large concrete aprons that were previously under construction. A large amount of Russian military equipment has also arrived at the airfield. A battalion-sized Russian contingent now appears to be located at the base, along with artillery and attack helicopter support. Several large Russian transport aircraft are also visible on the runway and the nearby ramps.


    https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/russia-fortifies-its-position-syria
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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:17 am

    "Four Russian attack helicopters have been spotted on the tarmac of a Syrian airport that the Pentagon says is being converted into a Russian forward operating base. The arrival of the helicopter gunships follows the shipment of sophisticated battle tanks, and shows the Russian build-up in Syria escalating even after repeated complaints from the Obama administration. A U.S. official who had been briefed on the latest intelligence over Syria early Wednesday told Fox News that two Russian Mi-24 "Hind" and two Mi-17 "Hip" gunships have been seen in the latest satellite imagery over Bassel al-Assad International Airport, in Latakia province along Syria's Mediterranean coast. Right now, there is no sign the Russian gunships have taken their first flights over Syria, according to the official. But intelligence analysts believe the helicopters could be airborne soon as maintenance crews prepare them for flight after arriving from Russia. The official said that An-124 Condor flights with cargo continue to fly into Syria at a rate of two a day, bringing the total of the massive Russian transport aircraft into Latakia to nearly 20."

    Every time i open Foxnews site i remember why i hate working with Americans.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4487032814001 - and amusing followup video to say at least. "If Russia defeats ISIL they will force us out of Levant and oil rich countries, and we do not want countries that are not our friends there" to sum it up for you.

    Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/16/russian-attack-helicopters-spotted-in-syria/
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    Post  Solncepek Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:48 am

    Great photos, друзя
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:07 am

    Larvov nailed it again.

    http://www.rt.com/news/315740-lavrov-isis-coalition-flawed/

    The international coalition fighting against Islamic State “has no reason” to reject cooperation with the Syrian government, according to Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who said that “one can’t fight evil with illicit practices.”
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    Post  medo Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:33 am

    Now I really wonder, where those misterius MiG-29M2 (35D) will go. Will they go to Syria or to Iraq? Iraq need those planes as they need to create effective air force to support their troops on the ground against ISIS and Syria also need them to support troops against US sponsored terrorists. Maybe those new MiG-29M2 fighters will actually go to Syria to be stationed in Latakia airport and operated by Russians. New MiGs plus a squadron of additional Su-24M2 will increase capabilities of Syrian army against terrorists and to make more deep strikes on ISIS bases.
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    Post  Flyboy77 Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:02 pm

    medo wrote:Now I really wonder, where those misterius MiG-29M2 (35D) will go. Will they go to Syria or to Iraq? Iraq need those planes as they need to create effective air force to support their troops on the ground against ISIS and Syria also need them to support troops against US sponsored terrorists. Maybe those new MiG-29M2 fighters will actually go to Syria to be stationed in Latakia airport and operated by Russians. New MiGs plus a squadron of additional Su-24M2 will increase capabilities of Syrian army against terrorists and to make more deep strikes on ISIS bases.

    I've been thinking the same thing the last few days. With the work being done at the Latakia airport. It looks like Russia may have finely decided to deliver on the arms contract they signed with Syria in 2010 before the civil war started. Time will tell I guess.unshaven

    I remember Yak-130 also being apart of that arms deal.
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    Post  George1 Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:00 pm

    Syria May Ask for Russian Military Presence if Necessary

    Syrian Foreign Minister said Syria may ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups.

    DAMASCUS (Sputnik) — The Syrian leadership would ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups in the war-torn country if necessary, Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said Thursday.

    "Syria will request Russian troops to fight on the side of our forces if such a need arises," Muallem said in an interview with Syrian state television.

    Syria has been mired in civil war since 2011, with the government of President Bashar Assad fighting against many opposition factions and militant groups, such as ISIL and the Nusra Front.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150917/1027160646.html#ixzz3m2W09PbT


    Syria Says Russia Has Every Right to Combat Islamic State on Its Soil

    Syria’s UN ambassador on Wednesday said Russia had every right to carry out airstrikes against the Islamic State militants in his country.

    “Why are the Americans fighting ISIL with their fighter jets and the Russians should be forbidden from that?” Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari told reporters, “Does it make sense? It doesn’t make sense.”

    A US-led coalition of over 60 nations managed to stop the offensive of Islamic State (ISIL) militants in Syria and Iraq, the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director said Sunday.

    “After all, we are fighting the same enemy,” he added.

    The Syrian envoy also said that Russia’s military assistance to Damascus was coming as part of the longtime defense cooperation between the two countries.

    President Barack Obama would welcome constructive Russian support for its efforts to create an anti-Islamic State collation in Syria, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Seprember 16.

    Earnest said the White House would welcome an "integrated, coordinated constructive effort from Russia" to support the US-led coalition in Syria.

    "We have been quite clear about welcoming Russia’s constructive support for the anti-[Islamic State] coalition in Iraq and Syria," he added.

    Earlier on Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry told reporters that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov proposed to him in a Tuesday phone conversation that Washington and Moscow should hold bilateral military talks on the crisis in Syria.

    Kerry added that the White House, the Department of State and the Department of Defense were currently considering the proposal.

    Syria has been mired in civil war since 2011, with Assad’s government fighting against many opposition factions and militant groups, such as Islamic State.

    Since 2014, an international coalition led by the United States has been conducting airstrikes against IS militants without approval from Damascus, as the West does not recognize Assad as the legitimate leader of Syria. The coalition has also been training the so-called moderate opposition.

    The prolonged military action in Syria has contributed to a global refugee crisis, with hundreds of thousands of people flocking to Europe in a bid to secure asylum.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150917/1027121292/syria-russia-isil-airstrikes.html#ixzz3m2W5qJi5
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    Post  mutantsushi Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:10 pm

    Ha!, Beware the finger!
    Solncepek wrote:Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1 - Page 6 Qntqema64a2k
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    Post  Shadåw Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:16 pm

    Exclusive: Syrian army starts using new weapons from Russia - military source

    The Syrian military has recently started using new types of air and ground weapons supplied by Russia, a Syrian military source told Reuters on Thursday, underlining growing Russian support for Damascus that is alarming the United States.

    "The weapons are highly effective and very accurate, and hit targets precisely," the source said in response to a question about Russian support. "We can say they are all types of weapons, be it air or ground."

    Read more at..

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-exclusive-idUSKCN0RH15S20150917

    Anyhow the satelite photos are the most intresting if anything, good Russia good!
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    Post  Khepesh Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:19 am

    George1 wrote:Syria May Ask for Russian Military Presence if Necessary

    Syrian Foreign Minister said Syria may ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups.

    DAMASCUS (Sputnik) — The Syrian leadership would ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups in the war-torn country if necessary, Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said Thursday.

    "Syria will request Russian troops to fight on the side of our forces if such a need arises," Muallem said in an interview with Syrian state television
    This response from Peskov today, when the diplomatic nuances are removed, seems to say that the answer to any such request will be yes, tho with qualifications I do not doubt. http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/18/peskovdamask/
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    Post  par far Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:06 am

    George1 wrote:Syria May Ask for Russian Military Presence if Necessary

    Syrian Foreign Minister said Syria may ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups.

    DAMASCUS (Sputnik) — The Syrian leadership would ask Moscow to send Russian troops to fight alongside the government forces against terrorist groups in the war-torn country if necessary, Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said Thursday.

    "Syria will request Russian troops to fight on the side of our forces if such a need arises," Muallem said in an interview with Syrian state television.

    Syria has been mired in civil war since 2011, with the government of President Bashar Assad fighting against many opposition factions and militant groups, such as ISIL and the Nusra Front.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150917/1027160646.html#ixzz3m2W09PbT


    Syria Says Russia Has Every Right to Combat Islamic State on Its Soil

    Syria’s UN ambassador on Wednesday said Russia had every right to carry out airstrikes against the Islamic State militants in his country.

    “Why are the Americans fighting ISIL with their fighter jets and the Russians should be forbidden from that?” Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari told reporters, “Does it make sense? It doesn’t make sense.”

    A US-led coalition of over 60 nations managed to stop the offensive of Islamic State (ISIL) militants in Syria and Iraq, the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director said Sunday.

    “After all, we are fighting the same enemy,” he added.

    The Syrian envoy also said that Russia’s military assistance to Damascus was coming as part of the longtime defense cooperation between the two countries.

    President Barack Obama would welcome constructive Russian support for its efforts to create an anti-Islamic State collation in Syria, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Seprember 16.

    Earnest said the White House would welcome an "integrated, coordinated constructive effort from Russia" to support the US-led coalition in Syria.

    "We have been quite clear about welcoming Russia’s constructive support for the anti-[Islamic State] coalition in Iraq and Syria," he added.

    Earlier on Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry told reporters that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov proposed to him in a Tuesday phone conversation that Washington and Moscow should hold bilateral military talks on the crisis in Syria.

    Kerry added that the White House, the Department of State and the Department of Defense were currently considering the proposal.

    Syria has been mired in civil war since 2011, with Assad’s government fighting against many opposition factions and militant groups, such as Islamic State.

    Since 2014, an international coalition led by the United States has been conducting airstrikes against IS militants without approval from Damascus, as the West does not recognize Assad as the legitimate leader of Syria. The coalition has also been training the so-called moderate opposition.

    The prolonged military action in Syria has contributed to a global refugee crisis, with hundreds of thousands of people flocking to Europe in a bid to secure asylum.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150917/1027121292/syria-russia-isil-airstrikes.html#ixzz3m2W5qJi5

    This means two things, Russian troops are going to start engaging and start fighting along side SAA and the Russian Air Force is soon going to start bombing, they are just sending a message to US through UN.
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    Post  medo Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:28 am

    Syrian official request for Russian military help through UN will made Russian military engagement in Syria legal under international law. Actually it would be better, if Syria send this request to whole SCO alliance, that China could as well send their contingent to Syria.
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    Post  Khepesh Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:08 pm

    If Syria asks for help and Russia agrees, then America cannot complain as US General Lloyd Austin has admitted that US special forces are already in Syria fighting for Kurds. I cannot find the English original of his announcement. And these "people" are "partners".....
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:25 pm

    Moskva's response: Russia may sent troops into Syria if needed

    http://www.rt.com/news/315872-russia-syria-troops-peskov/

    Moscow would consider Damascus’ request to form a military expedition to Syria, but would not speculate on the issue, the Russian president’s press-secretary said. The Syrian FM said earlier his country could ask for military help if needed.

    President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov fielded journalists’ questions on whether Russia would agree to a joint military operation with the Syrian army.

    “If such a request is lodged within a framework of bilateral contacts, it would be discussed and considered [by the Russian leadership]. So far it’s hard to hypothesize,” he said on Friday.

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