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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Isos on Sat May 19, 2018 11:28 pm

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3623874
    From 1 month ago I don't if someone gas posted it already.

    So USA have santiined some russian anti air forces ... looks like they are pissed off because they do a great job at teaching SAA in air defence and ot vould be seen as another prroof.

    Are sanctioned : 183th anti air brigade(?) From kaliningrad and 11th air defence formation center and KPB and others ...
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  nomadski on Sat May 19, 2018 11:39 pm

    @kiloGolf

    I said before that weakest and most hostile forces to be defeated first . Their territory added . To enable confronting the bigger opponent later . So if it was me , I go for :

    (1 ) The south near Golan . Clear out and fortify this front . As most likely front to threaten the coast and Damascus . By attack from Usraeli and rats and co .

    ( 2 ) Next idlib . To stop further incursion by Turkey . Stop militants from reaching coast .

    ( 3 ) Clear out ISIL pockets , on the way to liberating east Syria from SDF control . Maintain troops around yank bases .

    ( 4 ) Driving out Turk occupiers . If both Turks or yanks will not withdraw .

    ( 5 ) Driving out yank bases if Turks will withdraw .

    ( 6 ) Driving out Turks if yanks will withdraw .

    ( 7 ) Drive out Usraelis from Golan to celebrate .



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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sun May 20, 2018 2:23 am

    Russia has nothing to gain from being on good terms with Israel, unlike what papadragoy would like you to believe. For all the times Russia destroyed weapons deals in the midde east for the sake of Israel what did it get? More jew funded jihadis and more color revolutions. The Israel lobby in Russia are parasitic scum lower than a mushy piece of dogshit on a street on a rainy day and Russian siloviks and communists should get into power to remove these parasites ASAP. On the other hand being a close ally with Iran means more military and economic cooperation, something Israel never offered. A strong Iran means weaker gulf monarchies which means the weakening of the petrodollar and US geopolitical prestige(dont kid yourselves, america and israel are proud of bullying countries like Russia into submission, they have long ago thrown away the facade of diplomacy) but all these jew compromisers here dont understand it.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Sun May 20, 2018 2:39 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Ivan Sidorenko
    @IvanSidorenko1

    #SAA #SRG Officer who is in command of one of the Fronts :
    - #ISIS #Daesh to #Sukhnah
    - Tomorrow morning starts the clearing of the full front and the start of its handing over to the local authorities

    #Yarmouk #hajar_alaswad

    This is it folks, Damascus is now under full government control.

    Retaliation 2: Full control of the city of Damascus.
    Retaliation 3: Full control of the province of Damascus.

    The movement of ISIS fighters have been done the last night. Final place seems unknown. Likely will have exit to the borders not controled by the Syrian gouvernment.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sun May 20, 2018 3:38 pm

    Looks like they could be off to the desert. Video of lots of buses at link.



    Ivan Sidorenko
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    18h18 hours ago

    #Syria #Damascus #SouthDamascus #SouthernDamascus
    4th Division Soldier :
    Hajar al-Aswad is under complete control.
    #ISIS #Daesh in Yarmouk Camp & Taqadom & Tadamon have Unconditionally Surrendered and have until 5 AM to hand over all Kidnapped & Bodies of Martyrs & Weapons


    Emmanuel
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    South #Damascus : #Daesh has surrendered his positions inside #Yarmouk, Hajar Al Aswad +Tadamon to #SAA and will be moved by green buses to #DeirEzzor desert v @TheArabSource

    Ivan Sidorenko
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    #Syria #Damascus #SouthDamascus #SouthernDamascus
    Video Filmed 5 Hours Ago by Yarmouk Camp Activist Showing Busses that have entered Hajar al-Aswad / Yarmouk Camp to transport the Surrendered #ISIS #Daesh #ISIL to the Syrian Desert Area. (Not being publicly shown by Syrian media)


    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/998076373980893184


    Scorched earth exit by ISIS


    Ivan Sidorenko
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    #Syria #Damascus #SouthernDamascus #SouthDamascus
    Happening NOW :
    Yarmouk Camp: the pillars of smoke seen rising over the camp are due to ISIS burning the houses they took as their headquarters.
    #YarmoukCamp #Yarmouk_Camp
    #ISIS #Daesh #ISIL #IS #IslamicState #Islamic_State


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sun May 20, 2018 3:39 pm

    Comment on the start of that Hama airbase explosion

    Wael
    ????????
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    Anyone who’s doubting this case.
    The grass fires is a thing in Syria, and this case happened before in Aleppo airport but in much smaller effect.

    And to add to it; two weeks ago
    Al Shaa’irat AB commander ordered to remove the dry grass around and in the AB but by bulldozers.



    Meanwhile life goes on


    Ivan Sidorenko
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    #Syria #Damascus #SouthDamascus #SouthernDamascus
    Yarmouk Camp Activist 5 Minutes Ago :
    Three trucks and an empty trailer accompanied by a private car of an official are entering the camp to loot it infront of everyone's eyes.
    #YarmoukCamp #Yarmouk_Camp

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sun May 20, 2018 3:54 pm

    Positive development

    A highly-productive gas field formerly held by the Islamic State in west countryside of Raqqa is now operational again following a reconstruction process by the Syrian government.

    The 250,000 m3 -capacity Dabisan gas field – along others gas and oil fields in the area – was once under the control of ISIS before the terror group is driven out by a major offensive launched by the Syrian Army and allies

    The Syrian government is now seeking to rehabilitate the other 3 gas fields in the same area in order to boost its energy production that feeds the power plants countrywide.

    ISIS has destroyed all the gas and oil fields before forced to retreat eastwards. Syria’s oil wealth – mainly lies in the country’s central and eastern areas – is now divided mainly between the Syrian government and Kurdish militia.


    https://muraselon.com/en/2018/05/gas-field-raqqa-syria-isis/
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun May 20, 2018 10:05 pm

    There's been a lot of transporting of equipment from Russia and Iran and more on the way. Recently kornet-D added to the SAA list of weapons. What will be next? I am actually surprised we haven't seen Bmp-3 especially with Russians better armour than bmp-1&2 but mostly for its gun choice of 30mm long range ATGW and low velocity gun ideal for armour likely to encounter and blasting buildings. Kornet-T better protection than kornet -D as well. Chosta/hosta another useful piece of kit. And laser guided munitions using 2S7. Maybe even a handful of Bmo-T
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun May 20, 2018 10:15 pm

    With focus turning on Daraa etc there's some really easy areas to be had looking at the map , think avoiding Israeli side and go for eastern area (jordanian side) first would be better and quicker let isis continue to fight FSA and Co. Seal jordan border then your left with Israeli side. You know for fact Israel will attack SAA. I would imagine many in jordian side will end up looking for deals once pressure is on hence it could be quick to have.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Mon May 21, 2018 7:42 am

    BKP wrote:Anyone with good tech knowledge care to comment on this? Is it plausible or hooorseshit?

    Excerpt below from:

    https://robinwestenra.blogspot.ca/2018/05/ayatollah-khatami-says-tel-aviv-and.html

    ISRAEL TAKES THE BAIT

    By now, most of you have seen this widely publicized Israeli missile attack video.  The Israelis proudly show this to the world to brag about the sophistication of their weapons, and their military superiority.
    But to those in the Intelligence field, THIS was an unmitigated disaster.  Take a look for the short 5 seconds:



    Notice anything strange?  Maybe go watch it again . . .
    OK, for starters, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND parks a missile launcher out in the open for it to be hit?  Yet this vehicle is out in the wide open . . . all alone.   Why?
    Because it was a "Honey Pot."  It was MEANT to be attacked!  
    Next, where is the vehicle crew?   If you noticed, they were already standing over 100 feet AWAY from the missile launcher truck!  Why?  
    Because the crew KNEW the truck was MEANT to get attacked, and they had to be away from it!
    As the missile comes in really close to the truck, just before impact, look carefully at the windshield and driver side window in the cab of the truck . . . Looks like it is covered by some coating.  Maybe soot from previous rocket launches?  NO.
    Laser sensor lining!   The windows are blocked inside by a special type of sensor material designed to pick-up certain ranges of laser emissions and feed the light wavelength and data streams within the light (if any) into an onboard computer - or in this case, a radio relay unit which broadcasts instantly to a nearby receiver for storage.!
    That sensor lining was being directly hit by the Israeli fighter jet Laser Designator. The technology used by the US and NATO to guide precision munitions to the target.
    LASER DESIGNATORS

    A laser designator is a laser light source which is used to designate a target. Laser designators provide targeting for laser-guided bombs, missiles, or precision artillery munitions, such as the Paveway series of bombs, AGM-114 Hellfire, or the M712 Copperhead round, respectively.
    When a target is marked by a designator, the beam is invisible and does not shine continuously. Instead, a series of coded pulses of laser-light are fired. These signals bounce off the target into the sky, where they are detected by the seeker on the laser guided munition, which steers itself towards the center of the reflected signal.
    Unless the people being targeted possess laser detection equipment (like the kind plainly visible in the windows of this truck) or can hear aircraft overhead, it is extremely difficult for them to tell whether they are being marked or not. Laser designators work best in clear atmospheric conditions. Cloud cover, rain or smoke can make reliable designation of targets difficult or even impossible.
    The U.S. Air Force selected the Lockheed Martin's Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod (ATP) in 2004. It equipped multiple USAF platforms such as the F-16, F-15E, B-1, B-52, and A-10C. It also operates on multiple international fighter platforms. The U.S. Navy currently employ LITENING and ATFLIR targeting pods on a variety of strike aircraft. The Litening II is widely used by many other of the world’s air forces. The United Kingdom’s Royal Air Force use the Litening III system and the French use the Damocles and ATLIS II.
    The wavelength, power emissions and any data streams of these designators are among the most closely guarded secrets in our military.  If an adversary was to determine the exact wavelength of our targeting laser systems, or any potential data stream within the laser emission, that adversary could jam the laser targeting system!
    Worse, they could develop their own laser systems, more powerful, to fire a decoy laser beam and literally "hijack" US or NATO guided munitions; causing them to fall harmlessly away from the intended target!!!
    Well, guess what?   Unlike the US which very carefully scrutinizes targets before we hit them, the Israelis didn't stop to think why this target was being offered up to them on a silver platter.  In their arrogance at having American High-Technology, they never bothered to consider they were being set-up.   They were.
    Intelligence sources have told me directly the attack upon this particular truck was an unmitigated disaster.  The Truck contained laser sensor gear and was directly hit for several seconds with the Israeli laser designator.  Only milliseconds were needed to get a full understanding of the laser designator, and now, thanks to Israel, both Iran and Russia know exactly what wavelength, what data streams and what power levels are used by this targeting equipment.  
    WORSE . . . Israel used a precision weapon with a nose cone camera so they could watch the missile as it homed-in.  Those cameras transmit video back to the plane and to military bases via SATELLITE.  
    Nearby radio equipment just off-camera from the truck, could determine that Satellite frequency, the type of modulation used, and other critical information as the missile got closer and closer.  The satellite uplink signal would grow exponentially more powerful in the seconds before impact, then vanish upon detonation.  Thus, the radio equipment just off-camera, now has our video uplink frequencies for ALL Israeli, American and NATO precision weapon uplinks.
    Way to go Israel.  You just compromised decades of research and development work and tens of millions of dollars in development costs.   The icing on the cake . . . . Israel now also exposed ALL NATO precision weapons to hacking and real-time hijacking through video link frequencies.  thanks to Israel, we now have to change ALL our currently DEPLOYED weapons to fix this breach in our information security.
    Now that Russia and Iran have this technical information, they can take immediate interim actions to directly interfere with the effectiveness of our weapons worldwide.
    All because some paranoid Israelis, blinded with power and loaded with bloodlust, decided they could do whatever the hell they wanted.  Fucking morons.
    So when the Ayatollah Khatami stood up today and told Israel that Haifa and Tel Aviv will be destroyed if Israel acts foolishly; he knows what he's talking about.  For the technology that Iran and Russia just retrieved via Israel's reckless, unnecessary, preemptive attack, has given Iran and Russia the keys to properly aiming THEIR missiles, while simultaneously jamming OURS.

    This is interesting to read.

    It would be possible that a fake pantsir was offered to the attackers, in order to test also in the battlefield the fake repplies that are to distract the enemies from the real units. And also it is possible that fake units of different weapons be used to collect information about the attacking weapons.

    Theorically it should be very difficult to see in the image if this is a real or a fake system.

    If it was a fake SA-22 Pantsir, the test would have been a complete success.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am

    If serbs had as much modern SAM systems as syrians they could've destroyed the entire NATO air force.

    Also I heard that the Pantsirs and shilkas are under the command of the army while all other AA is under the syrian AD forces. That's preventing them from having an IADS.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am

    Wasn't Pantsir designed to be outside of IADS network?
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon May 21, 2018 2:46 pm

    [quote="eehnie"]
    BKP wrote:Anyone with good tech knowledge care to comment on this? Is it plausible or hooorseshit?

    Excerpt below from:

    https://robinwestenra.blogspot.ca/2018/05/ayatollah-khatami-says-tel-aviv-and.html

    ISRAEL TAKES THE BAIT

    By now, most of you have seen this widely publicized Israeli missile attack video.  The Israelis proudly show this to the world to brag about the sophistication of their weapons, and their military superiority.
    But to those in the Intelligence field, THIS was an unmitigated disaster.  Take a look for the short 5 seconds:

    Notice anything strange?  Maybe go watch it again . . .
    OK, for starters, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND parks a missile launcher out in the open for it to be hit?  Yet this vehicle is out in the wide open . . . all alone.   Why?
    Because it was a "Honey Pot."  It was MEANT to be attacked!  
    Next, where is the vehicle crew?   If you noticed, they were already standing over 100 feet AWAY from the missile launcher truck!  Why?  
    Because the crew KNEW the truck was MEANT to get attacked, and they had to be away from it!
    As the missile comes in really close to the truck, just before impact, look carefully at the windshield and driver side window in the cab of the truck . . . Looks like it is covered by some coating.  Maybe soot from previous rocket launches?  NO.

    This is interesting to read.

    It would be possible that a fake pantsir was offered to the attackers, in order to test also in the battlefield the fake repplies that are to distract the enemies from the real units. And also it is possible that fake units of different weapons be used to collect information about the attacking weapons.

    Theorically it should be very difficult to see in the image if this is a real or a fake system.

    If it was a fake SA-22 Pantsir, the test would have been a complete success.


    My only concern is if the crew knew a missile was coming to attack the vehicle in this fake setup you wouldn't stand 100 feet away, debris for one reason and if missile didn't hit target etc you wouldn't be standing around you would be nowhere near it.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Isos on Mon May 21, 2018 4:22 pm

    It was a real pantsir. Get over it. It's not invicible specially when it is in middle of nowhere uncovered. Next time they will hide the system.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Mon May 21, 2018 4:32 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:My only concern is if the crew knew a missile was coming to attack the vehicle  in this fake setup you wouldn't stand 100 feet away, debris for one reason  and if missile didn't hit target etc you wouldn't be standing around you would be nowhere near it.
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    In some cases not even the crew knows if they are assigned to a fake system or to a real one.

    Today, with image analysis software, that are able to detect minimal differences, the fake systems need to be apparently like the real systems.

    Today the fake systems are mounted over real trucks (that are not expensive) and are autonomously mobile. Also can have installed countermeasures. This is perfectly possible.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Mon May 21, 2018 5:08 pm

    Map drawers have at this point all Damascus in red.

    Local map posters are lazy (again) at the time of celebrating the Syrian-Russian-Iranian victory. It means it has been a successful retaliation.

    Now, according to the map drawers, there is still a last pocket in the Syrian territory controlled by the Syrian gouvernment, the ISIS pocket painted to the West of the Euphrates. Time to see if it is a real or a fake pocket.

    Many people are suggesting the ISIS fighters of Damascus have been moved there. It would make 0 sense, because if real this supposed pocket would be the next target of the Syrian gouvernment, and they would have to re-expell them to other place in a few days.

    Far more likely is that the ISIS fighters from Damascus have been expelled to the area of Al-Tanf or to Eastern Daraa.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  LMFS on Mon May 21, 2018 5:55 pm

    eehnie wrote:Map drawers have at this point all Damascus in red.

    Local map posters are lazy (again) at the time of celebrating the Syrian-Russian-Iranian victory. It means it has been a successful retaliation.

    Now, according to the map drawers, there is still a last pocket in the Syrian territory controlled by the Syrian gouvernment, the ISIS pocket painted to the West of the Euphrates. Time to see if it is a real or a fake pocket.

    Many people are suggesting the ISIS fighters of Damascus have been moved there. It would make 0 sense, because if real this supposed pocket would be the next target of the Syrian gouvernment, and they would have to re-expell them to other place in a few days.

    Far more likely is that the ISIS fighters from Damascus have been expelled to the area of Al-Tanf or to Eastern Daraa.
    From what has been reported there is still a presence of IS in the Badiya region. Not only attacks to i.e. T2 have been reported recently as the SAA did made an offensive some days ago to push the militants that were harassing them further into the desert. If you remember well the offensive to retake Deir-EzZor did not push so deep into the desert so I do assume there is indeed militant presence there, and probably in big numbers.

    The clear gains of the deal to transfer militants from Damascus to the Badiya are:
    > Secure Damascus
    > Disarm IS (they need to hand in heavy and medium weapons before being allowed to leave)
    > Next time they fight it will be in the desert. It is orders of magnitude easier to defeat them in open terrain than inside a city.

    So for me a clear victory in every sense
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Mon May 21, 2018 6:15 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    eehnie wrote:Map drawers have at this point all Damascus in red.

    Local map posters are lazy (again) at the time of celebrating the Syrian-Russian-Iranian victory. It means it has been a successful retaliation.

    Now, according to the map drawers, there is still a last pocket in the Syrian territory controlled by the Syrian gouvernment, the ISIS pocket painted to the West of the Euphrates. Time to see if it is a real or a fake pocket.

    Many people are suggesting the ISIS fighters of Damascus have been moved there. It would make 0 sense, because if real this supposed pocket would be the next target of the Syrian gouvernment, and they would have to re-expell them to other place in a few days.

    Far more likely is that the ISIS fighters from Damascus have been expelled to the area of Al-Tanf or to Eastern Daraa.

    From what has been reported there is still a presence of IS in the Badiya region. Not only attacks to i.e. T2 have been reported recently as the SAA did made an offensive some days ago to push the militants that were harassing them further into the desert. If you remember well the offensive to retake Deir-EzZor did not push so deep into the desert so I do assume there is indeed militant presence there, and probably in big numbers.

    The clear gains of the deal to transfer militants from Damascus to the Badiya are:
    > Secure Damascus
    > Disarm IS (they need to hand in heavy and medium weapons before being allowed to leave)
    > Next time they fight it will be in the desert. It is orders of magnitude easier to defeat them in open terrain than inside a city.

    So for me a clear victory in every sense

    If I have to say, my analysis about this supposed pocket in the Syrian desert is different:

    - I do not think at the time of the offensive of Deir Ez Zor the Syrian Armed Forces leave in their rear significant forces of the ISIS to make and sustain a pocket. Maybe some ISIS cell ok, but little more, even less that what we see today in Kirkuk, and fairly not enough to make a pocket and control territory.
    - Less still Syria would have been retiring troops from the area, like they did at the time.
    - I do not think that all the attacks done alleguedly by fighters of this pocket have been really made by them, crossing the borders of the pocket. A real pocket means a real frontline, and there is not evidence of a real frontline like we have seen in the other pockets defeated. I think the attacks in the area of Al Bukamal have been coming from local fighters remaining still in the villages gained to ISIS or from the other side of the river. And also I think that the attacks in the desert (T2) have been coming from infiltrations from the area of Al Tanf (likely by US backed forces, which are who care about the oil). If you remember, when this was ISIS territory, the US backed troops from Al Tanf usually attacked in the desert even trying to reach Al Bukamal.
    - The allegued offensive in these territories was in fact "a visit" of Syrian troops to some villages without a fight.
    - The pro-Western map drawers had the interest of painting ISIS pockets in the side of the Syrian gouvernment and in the side of Iraq to hide the inhability to defeat the remains of the ISIS to the East of the river.

    I do not expect a real fight in this supposed pocket in the following days. And no-one can think that Syria would be respecting an ISIS pocket inside the territory they control after the strong effort done to clean all the rest of the pockets.

    Neither in the pocket painted in Irak.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue May 22, 2018 1:33 am

    @eehnie
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    There was an article on sputnik about 3-4 weeks ago on syria and remaining threats. And this pocket was mentioned seemly it's a large area with very little towns and villages IS fled into these areas controlling small villages but mostly hide in cave's the number was put at 2-4k of fighters although it did state it was likely more towards 2k. They posed no serious threat other than hit and run attacks and could not hold ground. And that to clear out the area would be time consuming as every village town cave etc would have to be checked 100% and IEDs booby traps would also kill and hinder progress. The article was written by a Russian. I personally think that what the article says is pretty close to the truth. Living in this kind of environment isn't easy and the longer there left to live there the harder it becomes on the body and mind. Supplies and money run short. I am guessing that SAA are hoping that if they leave it long enough and carrying out its ok hit and run or probing attacks that IS will want a deal. No reason to send troops in to get killed by snipers IEDs mines etc. IS ain't going anywhere and in no shape to take and hold. Let them rot in the desert. Some may even perish due to environment and disease and possibly some infighting. I believe that the IS hunters that were sent to Damascus will likely be enjoying a little rest before heading back to this pocket.


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue May 22, 2018 1:59 am

    With focus on Daraa now on there was mention of Nasib crossing. I said earlier that going after jordian side of Daraa (east) was best options as you can be sure targeting western Daraa Israel would be a problem and right now IS are attacking FSA so FSA are kept busy just now.

    I would imagine that we could see a three prong attack one heading south of Daraa city clearing urban areas and onto the Daraa border crossing point. The second heading south/east towards Nassib taking out umm al mayadin. The third heading East towards M5 cross roads and take sayada. The first and third prong attacks would isolate Nassib and stop reinforcements effectively creating a pocket. Also securing Al ghariyah north of the crossroads (which shouldn't be hard) would help in securing large town of sayada.

    The obvious easy areas to target as well is the almost a pocket area in the north of this eastern area. At busra hariri could close to make a pocket or if they do capture al ghariyah then they could move onto ghariyat ash sharqiyah and al karak making a larger pocket and neither should pose any serious threat with manpower, equipment, and full might of Russian and syrian airforce and there's also russian bomber's and kaliber missiles at disposal but these maybe used to keep the terrorists busy in idilb western Aleppo. But I can't see eastern Daraa being must resistance. Western Daraa is more complicated due to Israeli aggression and support for terrorists and then IS as well. But I would imagine quite a few deals will be done in whole of Daraa
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  LMFS on Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 am

    eehnie wrote:
    If I have to say, my analysis about this supposed pocket in the Syrian desert is different:

    - I do not think at the time of the offensive of Deir Ez Zor the Syrian Armed Forces leave in their rear significant forces of the ISIS to make and sustain a pocket. Maybe some ISIS cell ok, but little more, even less that what we see today in Kirkuk, and fairly not enough to make a pocket and control territory.
    - Less still Syria would have been retiring troops from the area, like they did at the time.
    - I do not think that all the attacks done alleguedly by fighters of this pocket have been really made by them, crossing the borders of the pocket. A real pocket means a real frontline, and there is not evidence of a real frontline like we have seen in the other pockets defeated. I think the attacks in the area of Al Bukamal have been coming from local fighters remaining still in the villages gained to ISIS or from the other side of the river. And also I think that the attacks in the desert (T2) have been coming from infiltrations from the area of Al Tanf (likely by US backed forces, which are who care about the oil). If you remember, when this was ISIS territory, the US backed troops from Al Tanf usually attacked in the desert even trying to reach Al Bukamal.
    - The allegued offensive in these territories was in fact "a visit" of Syrian troops to some villages without a fight.
    - The pro-Western map drawers had the interest of painting ISIS pockets in the side of the Syrian gouvernment and in the side of Iraq to hide the inhability to defeat the remains of the ISIS to the East of the river.

    I do not expect a real fight in this supposed pocket in the following days. And no-one can think that Syria would be respecting an ISIS pocket inside the territory they control after the strong effort done to clean all the rest of the pockets.

    Neither in the pocket painted in Irak.
    I agree on the following:
    > the pocket left was not an area with fixed borders, present forces are disperse
    > Infiltration from Al-Tanf and East of Euphrates highly likely IMO.
    > The offensive you refer as a visit was indeed remarkably fast, they reportedly recovered like 50 km depth in a couple of days
    > There is an evident Western PR interest in having IS pockets everywhere to justify the coalition not making progress with their own ones.
    > BTW, reports are emerging stating that IS was transported to Daraa instead of Badiya. By now only rumours but who knows.

    So IMO there is this area of scarce interest that was simply too extensive to be mopped up as there were more pressing fronts. Remember how hard was to retake the T2 and that all those militants were just expelled from those facilities but not pursued and eliminated, they could perfectly have remained in the area. All in all maybe some hundreds of IS fighters, up to 1000 I would say. Shouldn't be a difficult fight but because of the size of the area a fairly big amount of forces needs to be used to ensure the terrorists are effectively routed.

    Let's see how things develop. I also don't expect very hard fights but this region is like an open wound and they must clean it asap, I expect this happening soon but cannot know how the high command sees the priorities right now. Next steps seems Daraa, but Badiya pocket would not need a big elite unit though and could be tackled in parallel.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue May 22, 2018 2:40 am

    Some analyst's think that Syria will try and take Golan heights. What's people's view on this?

    I personally can't see it happening a war with Israel and the west I doubt Russia would back them either. And Turkey possibly in an indirect way but highly unlikely. That would only leave Hezbollah and Iran. Although with their help and experience gained they could put up a fight Israel with its higher tech and USA/western allies it can't win.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue May 22, 2018 3:43 am

    It beings a wee tear to the eye... cheers Gratz to the SAA and friends!



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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue May 22, 2018 3:51 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:Some analyst's think that Syria will try and take Golan heights. What's people's view on this?

    I personally can't see it happening a war with Israel and the west I doubt Russia would back them either. And Turkey possibly in an indirect way but highly unlikely. That would only leave Hezbollah and Iran. Although with their help and experience gained they could put up a fight Israel with its higher tech and USA/western allies it can't win.

    If Syrians wand to get obliterated then sure, they can go for Golan

    I am certain that Russia will totally be on board and that Iran will handle the situation competently lol1 Cool
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  kvs on Tue May 22, 2018 4:34 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:Some analyst's think that Syria will try and take Golan heights. What's people's view on this?

    I personally can't see it happening a war with Israel and the west I doubt Russia would back them either. And Turkey possibly in an indirect way but highly unlikely. That would only leave Hezbollah and Iran. Although with their help and experience gained they could put up a fight Israel with its higher tech and USA/western allies it can't win.

    If Syrians wand to get obliterated then sure, they can go for Golan

    I am certain that Russia will totally be on board and that Iran will handle the situation competently lol1 Cool

    Well, if Israel will try anything funny like some last ditch attempt to save its Daesh minions, it may see loss of control
    of parts of the Golan. Russia is not going to be a guarantor of Israel's colonial borders. That's Uncle Scumbag's job.

    Also, neither Israel or its doggie America are going to be taking out Iran. All the bleating and threats are just pathetic.

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